Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread Steven McPhelan
Someone stated: JDO can use b-tree storages to store Java object trees directly.*That's* an object store. I believe that is exactly how Cache stores its objects. I do not believe that all Cache objects are stored as flat files with b-tree indexes.

Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread rgaber
So, the bottom line is that VA can employ their current infrastructure to accomplish what it is seeking bids for. Hmm. - Original Message - From: Steven McPhelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:59 am Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java To:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Self
Richard Schilling wrote: When objects are stored wholesale in an object store, I call it an object database. When object data is stored in a SQL database and then managed by some intermediary API, I call it a persistence layer. So, perhaps we're splitting hairs here. Perhaps, but I think you

RE: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-15 Thread Mark Painter
I'm glad someone has spoken to Mark Shuttleworth about VistA. I've been thinking of contacting him for some months now. As a paediatrician in South Africa, working for the State, I've been frustrated by our national and provincial departments of health - the amount of money they have spent, and

Re: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-15 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Mark, I have been keeping tabs on the work of the HL7 Pediatric Special Interest Group who defined the differences between and adult and pediatric medical record. This seemed to be exactly the information needed to define what needed to be added to VistA to make it pediatric friendly. I

Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread Richard Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the bottom line is that VA can employ their current infrastructure to accomplish what it is seeking bids for. Hmm. Not exatly. The conversion of CHCS and code to a cross-platform infrastructure requires much more than just using more of Cache. There's a

Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread Richard Schilling
Jim Self wrote: Richard Schilling wrote: When objects are stored wholesale in an object store, I call it an object database. When object data is stored in a SQL database and then managed by some intermediary API, I call it a persistence layer. So, perhaps we're splitting hairs here.

Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread Douglas M. PREISER
Cache Objects are stored in Globals. They are stored as objects, not tables. The %Save method of the class is used to store the object. We all know that globals are multi-dimensional so there is no problem storing complex objects. The SQL presentation is achieved by generating code when the

RE: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-15 Thread Mark Painter
Will do Nancy. Have had a brief look but will need to digest more fully. Thanks! Mark | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite | Sent: 15 March 2006 08:38 PM | To:

[Hardhats-members] SQL is a language (That's what the L is for)

2006-03-15 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Folks, SQL is a language. If you have a C compiler, a JVM and a Lisp interpreter on the same machine, that doesn't make the machine imperative, object oriented or functional, it's just a machine. Similarly, if you support data access via MUMPS, SQL, or OQL, it neither changes the nature of

Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread rgaber
That is exactly what I wanted to say, thanks Douglas. :) - Original Message - From: Douglas M. PREISER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:02 pm Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cache Objects are stored in

Re: [Hardhats-members] SQL is a language (That's what the L is for)

2006-03-15 Thread rgaber
Bravo Greg. - Original Message - From: Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:25 pm Subject: [Hardhats-members] SQL is a language (That's what the L is for) To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Folks, SQL is a language. If you have a C compiler, a

[Hardhats-members] VistA Planning and Implemantation

2006-03-15 Thread Matthew King
In my VistA travels, I thought I came across a document that outlined the VAs planning and implementation procedures when bringing up new sites. Does anyone know if document like that exists? Thank you, matt

[Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I am working to integrate, automatically, the database of ALL drugs as published on the FDA website. They publish about 7 files that are interlinked, holding the data. I have created custom files to hold the data in each of these files. I then automatically load the FDA data into each of the

[Hardhats-members] Re: National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well, I have found that if I just take out the hyphens and leave it as a 12 digit number that it matches with the entries in the NDC file. But I still wonder why it is stored different places different ways. Kevin On 3/15/06, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working to

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
Because the names often differ in minor ways, I can't just do a name search, instead I have to look at the INGREDIENTS of each entry, and its dosage and form (tab, liquid etc), and units. That won't even help with a drug like Diltiazem. Your going to really need to work with NDC's. The

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Mar 15, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Well, I have found that if I just take out the hyphens and leave it as a 12 digit number that it matches with the entries in the NDC file. But I still wonder why it is stored different places different ways. Kevin You see the same thing

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: The size of the separate fields have changed over the years and different drugs are labeled differently. the largest an NDC can be is 5-4-2 (11 digits). But it can and does vary from 4-4-2 and 2-3-2 and even 5-3-2 So, are the NDC codes

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: That won't even help with a drug like Diltiazem. Your going to really need to work with NDC's. The hyphens are a result of the combination of 3 separate numbers being combined into a single number. The first part is a the Manufacture, the

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 18:25, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: The size of the separate fields have changed over the years and different drugs are labeled differently. the largest an NDC can be is 5-4-2 (11 digits). But it can and does vary from

Re: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread Richard Schilling
Awesom! Thanks, Doug. How do the Java classes interact with their brethren on the MUMPS server? Or do they? Richard Douglas M. PREISER wrote: Cache Objects are stored in Globals. They are stored as objects, not tables. The %Save method of the class is used to store the object. We all

Re: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 19:11, Alan Rubin wrote: Ubuntu has integrated LTSP into it's distribution.. LTSP is Linux Terminal Server Project, and is a marvelous setup worth investigating since it is so incredibly cost efective. Diskless workstations, recycled from older pc's boot w/ applications

Re: [Hardhats-members] SQL SERVERS process SQL languages (That's what the term server is for)

2006-03-15 Thread Richard Schilling
Any product that is able to process the Structured Query Language, and provide a SQL table view of data is by definition a SQL server. Cache's SQL processing conforms to the ANSI SQL specification in many ways, and Cache provides ODBC and JDBC drivers as well. All the features of a SQL

RE: [Hardhats-members] SQL SERVERS process SQL languages (That's what the term server is for)

2006-03-15 Thread Delaney, Eva
Interesting. Our goal is to be able to run queries therefore create customized reports of our database or file system. Our VistA application writes and stores the data into data files and these files resides in the Globals instead of the RDBS. We have been suggested to run MDART program to

[Hardhats-members] Positive article on msnbc.com regarding the VA and VistA

2006-03-15 Thread Marc Krawitz
Please see: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11844694/ A big advantage for the VA is electronic medical records. The VA has the largest, and one of the most modern systems in the world. When a VA patient visits any facility in the country, the records are there. Indeed, after Hurricane Katrina, many

RE: [Hardhats-members] Rewriting CPRS in Java

2006-03-15 Thread Roy Gaber
I imagine it is this; The Caché Java binding takes a class defined in a Caché database and creates a corresponding Java class from it. This generated class provides remote access to a Caché class from Java. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Thanks Ruben (and Gregory) for the replies. I agree that 5+4+2=11, but in the VA database, they seem to be storing 12 digits, with a leading 0. E.g: NUMBER: 385 000832027601 QUINIDINE SULFATE QUINIDINE SO4 200MG TAB NUMBER: 386 000364022990 QUINIDINE SULFATE QUINIDINE

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 3/15/06, Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: The size of the separate fields have changed over the years and different drugs are labeled differently. the largest an NDC can be is 5-4-2 (11 digits). But it can and does vary from

Re: [Hardhats-members] MSC FileMan updated

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Thanks George. Kevin On 3/15/06, George Timson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've updated the FileMan suite of routines available at http://www.hardhats.org/fileman/MSC.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting

Re: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Is this different from VNC? Are there differences in bandwidth requirements between the different technologies? And I realize that X uses IP for its messaging (thus making dissemination possible). But isn't that part of the technology used in LTSP? If not, is there a program that sets up dumb

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
What is the NDC numbers for Singular 10mg Ruben On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:47, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Thanks Ruben (and Gregory) for the replies. I agree that 5+4+2=11, but in the VA database, they seem to be storing 12 digits, with a leading 0. E.g: NUMBER: 385 000832027601

Re: [Hardhats-members] SQL SERVERS process SQL languages (That's what the term server is for)

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 3/15/06, Delaney, Eva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...to view and query Global data files (I do not consider the Globals a Database). ... I am not a database guy, but I don't follow you here. VistA has to have a database to store it's data in, and Globals are where that data stored. So it is

Re: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:54, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Is this different from VNC? Are there differences in bandwidth requirements between the different technologies? Completely, although VNC ALSO uses basic X technology to works. And I realize that X uses IP for its messaging (thus making

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Below are the results for this drug from two places where it is stored. On 3/15/06, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the NDC numbers for Singular 10mg Ruben In file NDC/UPC: NUMBER: 89055 06011731 -12 digits SINGULAIR 10MG TAB MONTELUKAST NA 10MG

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 3/15/06, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ruben (and Gregory) for the replies. I agree that 5+4+2=11, but in the VA database, they seem to be storing 12 digits, with a leading 0. E.g: Here is the description for field NDC in file NDC/UPC: FIELD NAME: NDC FLD

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
I'll look these up when I get the the Pharmacy and give you the exact breakdown. But it does seem that your correct and they added another zero on the front (room to grow) since Merck is Manufacturer 0006 (now most often 6) Ruben On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:12, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Below

Re: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Cool. Thanks Kevin On 3/15/06, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:54, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Is this different from VNC? Are there differences in bandwidth requirements between the different technologies? Completely, although VNC ALSO uses basic X technology

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
And why am I an unemployed Programmer with a Pharmacy degree? I could be wrong but I believe that the programmers added a digit on accident. Ruben On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:15, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: On 3/15/06, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ruben (and Gregory) for the

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 3/15/06, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And why am I an unemployed Programmer with a Pharmacy degree? I could be wrong but I believe that the programmers added a digit on accident. Ruben That explaination would make the most sense to me. Because who knows which of three subfields

Re: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
Try this on your box. Log out of graphics mode completely. You might have to change the run level. At a consel prompt log in and get your shell prompt. run xinit /usr/X11/bin/xterm xhost + ssh -X -l yourname your.other.box.com Log in with the username and password to the foreign box. Now

RE: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Mark Amundson
Here is the official info from fda.gov on NDC codes: NDC Number Each listed drug product listed is assigned a unique 10-digit, 3-segment number. This number, known as the NDC, identifies the labeler, product, and trade package size. The first segment, the labeler code, is assigned by the FDA.

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Will the same labeler always use the same pattern of product code and package code? On Wednesday 15 March 2006 22:33, Mark Amundson wrote: Here is the official info from fda.gov on NDC codes: NDC Number Each listed drug product listed is assigned a unique 10-digit, 3-segment number. This

RE: [Hardhats-members] SQL SERVERS process SQL languages (That's what the term server is for)

2006-03-15 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Quite so, Kevin! ... And I on the other hand AM a database guy ... and to be most accurate, VistA is based on VA FileMan (which uses globals for the persistent data store) to project a polymorphic view of the data (object as well as SQL). VistA data is accessed via VA FileMan in a manner much

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 23:23, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Will the same labeler always use the same pattern of product code and package code? No - there is no such restriction but the middle number usually remains constant. They sometimes change the drug and keep the drug code. I think they did

Re: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 09:33:29PM -0600, Mark Amundson wrote: Here is the official info from fda.gov on NDC codes: NDC Number Each listed drug product listed is assigned a unique 10-digit, 3-segment number. This number, known as the NDC, identifies the labeler, product, and trade

Re: [Hardhats-members] Positive article on msnbc.com regarding the VA and VistA

2006-03-15 Thread Greg Kreis
A short piece on it appeared on NBC Nightly News tonight. Here is a link to the NBC News netcast of the show, VA piece is in there somewhere... ;-) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9973419/ It was very supportive of the VA and I would expect it to generate some private sector interest again.

RE: [Hardhats-members] National Drug Codes (NDC) headaches. Anyone have input?

2006-03-15 Thread Mark Amundson
I to have never seen the * character used on a med package, but I have came across the occasional NDC database that has asterisks in it. The paragraphs are pulled directly from the FDA site and they are consistent to what I understand NDC's to be and how I have used them. The real pain to me for

Re: [Hardhats-members] Positive article on msnbc.com regarding the VA and VistA

2006-03-15 Thread Richard Schilling
Great news spot! Thanks for posting this. Richard Marc Krawitz wrote: Please see: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11844694/ A big advantage for the VA is electronic medical records. The VA has the largest, and one of the most modern systems in the world. When a VA patient visits any