[hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Wayne
A question for fellow Admins. Where I am a volunteer server Admin we have 33 CSS servers which are very well frequented and extremely active. We have a server watch program running that alerts us to the presence of troublesome players, or players we know to have been caught cheating off our

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Dave Williams
vac is inadequate and does need help. I run steambans which does help keep the cheaters out especially now they have merged with sharedbans. The problem with vac is that it's a stationary target. the code has been set and hasn't been updated. Streambans on the other hand is constantly being

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Alex Dignam
There is one downside to Shared bans... say for example the Admin on a server with shared bans has the mental age of a 5 year old, and decides to ban you, you havnt done anything wrong yet as well as being banned from 1 server your banned from all servers with shared bans, you havnt done anything

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Roman Hatsiev
Starting June 2006 we are watching Cheaters Strike Back episode of Admin Wars series on our servers. After VAC launch last summer and until end of May 2006 we had only five bans for cheats, now it is more than fifty and more and more are added every week. I don't believe it is a coincidence, most

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Roman Hatsiev
Not sure what it looks like in Shared bans but we do have similar project here in Russia and mandatory requirement to add new ban into system is that you must have a proof of cheating - demo file, preferably with movies illustrating the reason. By the way - movies really help to increase people's

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Ryan Brady
movies also introduce editing, and sometimes the lack of ingame sound which can make the 'movie' bias. i would say watching the demo is better 'proof' so to speak than a movie.lots of people get lucky, lots of people have good headphones, a movie can make anyone look like a cheater. -

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Maybe it has something to do with the announcement on http://www.az-prod.com/ and Valve have given up on updating VAC since it was always a losing proposition and is about to be replaced by something better soon NB: I will not held responsible

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Roman Hatsiev
For such cases there is always a demo at hand while I'm speaking about obvious cheaters like those who track a target through the wall - very attractive movie for the public! Like this one - http://public.otstrel.ru/otstrel/private/demo3.avi (6MB) Regards. On 07/08/06, Ryan Brady [EMAIL

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] For those that pay attention to when VAC is updated, when was it last updated? On 8/8/06, Roman Hatsiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For such cases there is always a demo at hand while I'm speaking about obvious cheaters like those who track a

RE: [hlds] HL Source DM server out yet

2006-08-07 Thread Frazer
Try this in a cmd file: cd c:\somedir\hlserver HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game hl2mp -dir . pause That will get you the dedicated HL2 DM server files, if you do not already have them. Run the server as you would any other dedicated Source (srcds) server. There are several methods,

Re: [hlds] HL Source DM server out yet

2006-08-07 Thread Kevin Ottalini
Fraiser, Ooks is talking about HL1MP (IE: the Source port of HLDM) not HL2MP. HLDSupdatetool doesn't have support for HL1MP at this time, there is only a beta client. qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Frazer To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:52 AM

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread milchworld
i GUESS together with the sdk update (there was a 2 seconds css update !?). hlstatsx analyses the log-files and lists all vac-banned. there are 18 today for my server. only 2-5 per day the last week! a new cheat detected? or so many people using a detected old cheat? Leopard Whisper schrieb:

RE: [hlds] HL Source DM server out yet

2006-08-07 Thread Edward Luna
I have a hl2 DM server but I don't even start it anymore... nobody was ever in it. I also have a hl DM server that always has people playing. Gotta tell you something. I don't know about CS and the other mods but for standard hl DM it's all about game play. Graphics are pretty and it's kinda

Re: [hlds] HL Source DM server out yet

2006-08-07 Thread Mick
I think Ooks is refering to HL DM dedicated server, not HL2DM dedicated server files, but I'm sure you help is appreciated. Mick - Original Message - From: Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] HL Source DM

RE: [hlds] HL Source DM server out yet

2006-08-07 Thread Frazer
Oops, my bad. Thanks for the clarification. F. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ottalini Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HL Source DM server out yet Fraiser, Ooks is

Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS.

2006-08-07 Thread Link Pankratz
Sharedbans requires a 5 minute minimum demo submitted to them before a player can be added as a cheater. They look over it and if they agree, the account is added to the ban list. Can't get much better than that IMO. Link Alex Dignam wrote: There is one downside to Shared bans... say for

RE: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Doug Crabtree
I don't know if it's common knowledge or not, but Hammer is now broken for Linux mapping. It doesn't compile the physics data for Linux, only Windows. I guess we have to wait _yet again_ for another update. They definitely need to look into using some kind of QC program at Valve. This is

RE: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Bush
Do you know how hard it is to have one thing be completely the same from windows to linux? From your posting here, I'm pretty sure you DON'T. I'm also sure of the fact you don't know how hard it is to take on such a large size project like CSS/HL2 and the rest of the games to be released and run

RE: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Bush
Here you got mr. know-it-all; read this. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39159290,00.htm Just to give you a little more of an idea why its so difficult to manage and debug such a huge project as this. Next time do a little more research before you come looking for cattle to slaughter mr. map

RE: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Alfred Reynolds
The correct place for SDK feedback is http://developer.valvesoftware.com or the hlcoders mailing list (subscribe via http://list.valvesoftware.com). Ee removed the Linux specific physics lump a while ago because it is no longer needed, both win32 and Linux now share the same terrian information.

Re: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Hell Phoenix
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] You still havent figured out how to unsubscribe eh? It only has been a couple months since you said you were done with the list so Im guessing it will be a few more. It IS pretty tough to do ;) Bush wrote: Here you got mr. know-it-all; read this.

RE: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Doug Crabtree
I'm am well aware. I was just stating that if you now compiled a map using hammer, it won't work on a Linux server. It worked before the update. It now doesn't. I, being a programmer, am aware about the complexities of multiple platform support. But as a programmer, I enlist people to test

Re: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Dave Williams
i do agree that the two platforms are very differnet but i also believe that if a company like valve says it's gonna support both i expect them to support both well and at the moment they can't seem to do that. So i ask myself why they try as they are only disheartening and pushing users away.

Re: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Dave Williams
this is a quote from the link bush gave . At Microsoft's Tech Ed conference in Amsterdam on Wednesday, a session was devoted to how, according to one Microsoft fan at least, the Linux kernel is beginning to resemble, well -- Windows. that person is a blithering idiot. the 2 os's are aimed at two

Re: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Wim Barelds
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Dave, shut up. Windows has been improving siginificantly in terms os stability and security. The only one being significantly ignorant here is you and your linux fan-boy-ish ass. A) Linux distributions also have security issues B) Linux

RE: [hlds] Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Adam Sando
Dave, you obviously do not know the first thing about managing servers running Windows Operating Systems. If your machine is being trashed by spyware/malware/etc-ware, and you need to re-install it every week, perhaps you need to do two things: 1. Stop installing un-trusted junk on your server 2.

[hlds] Re: Sdk update

2006-08-07 Thread Roman Hatsiev
Greedy kids. They want everything, now and for free. They think that words like you work like Microsoft are terriblly offensive. Funny. On 08/08/06, Dave Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is a quote from the link bush gave . At Microsoft's Tech Ed conference in Amsterdam on Wednesday, a