Re: [I18n] urdu keymap

2004-09-01 Thread Markus Kuhn
A brief purist's rant on keymaps and keysyms: X11 keymaps were originally merely meant to represent what symbols are printed/engraved on the keycaps of the keyboard hardware used (see Appendix A of the X11 protocol specification). Is the proposed Urdu keyboard layout already used by any keyboard

Re: [I18n] urdu keymap

2004-09-01 Thread Sergey V. Udaltsov
Hi I would disagree with you, Mark. There can countries/languages/layouts which were never implemented in hardware - and still it makes sense to have corresponding layouts (or at least variants). I would not bound the word keymap to the politics of the keyboard vendors (some countries can just

Re: [I18n] urdu keymap

2004-09-01 Thread Kakilik Group
Hi, Hi I would disagree with you, Mark. There can countries/languages/layouts which were never implemented in hardware - and still it makes sense to have corresponding layouts (or at least variants) Me too. There are no any hardware keyboard for Turkmen language(My language). Their

Re: [I18n] urdu keymap

2004-09-01 Thread Markus Kuhn
Kakilik Group wrote on 2004-09-01 15:42 UTC: There are no any hardware keyboard for Turkmen language(My language). Their alphabet is too young (1991-...). Does the keysymdef.h file that we are currently revising on http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/keysymdef.h cover all the characters

Re: [I18n] urdu keymap

2004-09-01 Thread Ali Hussnain Shah
hi, yes i also fully agree with Sergey. What definition Markus gave us about keymaps is of old times. And these definition may change to facilitate the goals without changing the concepts. There may never exist a hardware keyboard for Urdu, because mostly english hardware version is used