Re: [IAEP] [OLPC India] Fwd: [bytesforall_readers] OLPC eyes 1 mn laptop sales in India

2008-09-29 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 29 Sep 2008 1:52:22 pm Edward Cherlin wrote: Anybody know anything about this? I usually pass up such articles. There are too many weasel words like plans to ... and sources say If this were a properly researched article or press release, then it would have specific details.

Re: [IAEP] maths instruction

2009-05-01 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Thursday 30 April 2009 8:04:37 pm Kathy Pusztavari wrote: I'm of the direct instruction camp. If skills and concepts are not build upon each other correctly, you will get kids that either learn a concept wrong (then they have to unlearn it) or fail and then feel like they are stupid...

Re: [IAEP] versus, not

2009-05-08 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Thursday 07 May 2009 07:00:44 pm Alan Kay wrote: A good goal for the larger system -- which has to include not just what people need in their practical life, but also what they need to understand the issues of their society, how their society works, what their responsibilities as citizens

Re: [IAEP] Some Comments on Digital Textbooks In California

2009-06-11 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Thursday 11 June 2009 09:55:26 pm Sameer Verma wrote: Some people argue that books can only cover so much. Well, paper books are limited. Electronic books are not. Syllabi are designed to address specific teaching goals in limited time. I use syllabi every semester, and I'm not against that

Re: [IAEP] Comments on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and Mastering Educational SW

2009-06-30 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 29 Jun 2009 10:01:34 pm Alan Kay wrote: (a) the epistemology of science is not at all what most people suppose, and it is rather distant from the normal ways our minds are set up to work, Could you please elaborate it? Isn't the desire to seek the deeper principles behind things and

Re: [IAEP] Comments on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and Mastering Educational SW

2009-06-30 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 30 Jun 2009 5:42:29 pm Alan Kay wrote: ..There I should have said modern science to denote the kind of science that Galileo and a few others started, which Bacon discussed so well as a debugging process for what is wrong with our brains/minds, and which Newton first showed how

Re: [IAEP] Comments on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and Mastering Educational SW

2009-06-30 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 30 Jun 2009 11:23:24 pm Alan Kay wrote: what is more interesting is how well certain ways of thinking work in finding strong models of phenomena compared to others. This is the part that interests me too ... So, if we get pneumonia, there are lots of paradigms to choose from, but

Re: [IAEP] Comments on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and Mastering Educational SW

2009-07-02 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Thursday 02 Jul 2009 5:19:58 pm Alan Kay wrote: Knowledge - On the other hand, Henry Ford was not nearly as smart as Leonardo, but was born at a very good time and in a good place, so he was able to combine engineering and production inventions to make millions of inexpensive automobiles.

[IAEP] Computer as a tool

2009-07-02 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
Hi, This thread was spun off Re: [IAEP] Comments on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and Mastering Educational SW There are differences in the use of computers in schools between Sikshana (sikshana.blogspot.com) and Sugar Labs/OLPC. Sikshana's tech pilot is only three years old and will

Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?

2009-07-02 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Thursday 02 Jul 2009 6:21:33 pm Walter Bender wrote: I still wish there was a launch-this-project-and-we'll-have-taken-care-of-steps-1–5-below-for-you Etoys bundle kicking around that we could just ship with the Journal. There is a simpler way to 'build a story' using conventional

Re: [IAEP] Physics

2009-07-02 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Wednesday 01 Jul 2009 6:05:08 pm Alan Kay wrote: An important part of ball drop was the separation of 3-4 months between the math (scripting various kinds of motion for the children's painted cars and dropping markers to reveal the history of their motion), and the science (handling various

Re: [IAEP] Computer as a tool

2009-07-13 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 13 Jul 2009 7:02:33 pm Caroline Meeks wrote: What sort of results do you have so far? The new academic year has just started. In the prev one, around 75% of the kids learnt to handle the computer well enough to create at least one project in Etoys in a space of about four calendar

Re: [IAEP] Computer as a tool

2009-07-14 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 14 Jul 2009 12:03:35 am David Farning wrote: Have you considered using Sugar or Sugar on a stick for your program? The project was conceived before SoaS. We faced severe constraints with power budgets and tech support. Wifi and ethernet couldn't compete with sneakernet ;-). It was a

Re: [IAEP] [Sur] sugerencia para actividad clock

2009-07-20 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 20 Jul 2009 10:44:23 pm Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: However, my point of making that clock was that each kid should make one to understand it. An objective tick-tock is just one way to understand time. It is the kronos time. However, the round clock face stood for a different concept of

Re: [IAEP] GPA Notes 7/23/09

2009-07-25 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 24 Jul 2009 7:08:05 am Anurag Goel wrote: I feel most kids struggled with this because they had not learned too much about geometry, particularily concepts involving degrees and radii. However, kids experimented with a lot of different values to better predict increments. Some kids

Re: [IAEP] GPA Notes 7/23/09

2009-07-27 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 28 Jul 2009 2:25:29 am Caroline Meeks wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:55 AM, K. K. Subramaniam subb...@gmail.comwrote: On Friday 24 Jul 2009 7:08:05 am Anurag Goel wrote: ..Some kids realized that if they input a really large number they would get the same result as importing

Re: [IAEP] Is again Community Influence - Re: Lets Get Satisfaction (was: Community Influence)

2009-07-31 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 31 Jul 2009 5:50:48 am Caroline Meeks wrote: I think we have a choice. We harrang and nag the people in the classroom to give us better info, thus chasing away most of them, or we encourage feedback and get a lot of bad data. I just tried SoaS in a virtual machine and found some

Re: [IAEP] Computer as a tool

2009-08-12 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 13 Jul 2009 9:11:10 pm K. K. Subramaniam wrote: On Monday 13 Jul 2009 7:02:33 pm Caroline Meeks wrote: What sort of results do you have so far? The new academic year has just started. In the prev one, around 75% of the kids learnt to handle the computer well enough to create

Re: [IAEP] Computer as a tool

2009-08-12 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Thursday 13 Aug 2009 2:12:07 am Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: What have been the issues preventing you from using Sugar? What blockers still exist which would prevent you from using Sugar? LaTeX and Stellarium were two big show stoppers. We just wanted a 'digital kit' that children

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-14 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 14 Aug 2009 7:40:30 pm Caroline Meeks wrote: For Physics I think I want a really simple challenge that I can demo then have students solve it fairly quickly. then I want a couple levels of additional challenge where students can solve problems in different ways. For best results,

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-16 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Sunday 16 Aug 2009 9:42:39 am Bill Kerr wrote: Is there are real danger of students getting the wrong idea about science from using the physics program? I'm not really sure - some will, some won't - but I think my students see it as a game type program rather than a reality show. Their

Re: [IAEP] 40 maths shapes challenges

2009-09-05 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 04 Sep 2009 10:12:36 pm Maria Droujkova wrote: Circle is one of the hardest in Scratch. Unless I am missing a command. Maria, Could you be more specific please? hardest to understand through Scratch or hardest to create after having understood? Subbu

Re: [IAEP] shape 31

2009-09-19 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday 19 Sep 2009 8:27:45 am Bill Kerr wrote: http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/09/shape-31.htmlSo, I realised this was a nice challenge in real maths and understanding of the application of variables, measurement, ratio, proportion and fractions I see this as a good example of where

Re: [IAEP] The Youngest Headmaster In The World

2009-10-13 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 08:27:24 am Caryl Bigenho wrote: From BBC news tonight. Unbelievable, wonderful, inspiring story. Don't miss it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8299780.stm Inspiring indeed! Early this year, he won the IBN CNN Real Heroes Award:

Re: [IAEP] scratch gone missing

2009-11-07 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday 07 November 2009 09:18:05 am Bill Kerr wrote: No but it should be there since Scratch has a far better UI than Etoys I have seen kids play with both Scratch and Etoys and I wouldn't pit them against each other. They appeal to different sets of children. Scratch appeals to a younger

Re: [IAEP] For Example: Re: Any ideas how to make an image with a transparent background inSugar?

2009-12-03 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 02 October 2009 08:22:22 am Alan Kay wrote: I saved each stage for you to look at using Export in in the menu handle as a PNG (you can also choose BMPs, JPGs, etc.) But PNG has a color for transparent. Copy-n-Paste should also work on a halo-ed morph. Very handy for attaching or

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] sounds in Speak

2009-12-14 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 14 December 2009 09:00:23 pm Aleksey Lim wrote: Hello everybody, This afternoon, I had an interesting conversation with a Montessori teacher, about Speak. She asked me why Speak says a when a is pressed and not the sound of the letter a. Montessori teachers teach the shape

Re: [IAEP] Need in Haiti: inexpensive portable projectors for OLPC/XO classrooms

2010-02-03 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Wednesday 03 February 2010 11:58:27 pm Adam Holt wrote: Aside from this wonderful home-made prototype, that unfortunately overheats, what's achievable? http://blog.laptop.org/2008/11/16/hardware-hacking-first-pass-at-an-xo-proj ector/ Have you considered LED monitors? Monitors (= 23) are

Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-02-26 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 26 February 2010 12:12:19 pm Cherry Withers wrote: It's definitely a balancing act trying to get them to focus on finishing up something and getting them to explore. Once they realize that they can affect the object by scripts they just want to do everything they can possibly do in

[IAEP] Thank you

2010-03-01 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
Hi, Sikshana (http://www.sikshana.org) won a best NGO award from the citizens of Bangalore for its initiative to improve the quality of public education: http://citizensalliance.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/good-samaritans-some-of- bangalore-recognised One of the key empowerment initiative in

Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-03-02 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 02 March 2010 02:28:42 pm Simon Schampijer wrote: An interesting possibility is to get old students to create animated flashcards/sounds clips to teach a topic (say English) to younger students. Traditional flashcards just present a letter as a block. Instead, one can use a bug

Re: [IAEP] Request for Feedback and Ideas on teaching Algebra

2010-04-04 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday 03 April 2010 11:36:17 am Steve Thomas wrote: If you have any ideas for problems I can use and/or suggested lesson plans/books/curricullum please let me know. Having helped my daughter deal with algebra last year, I can share my first- hand experiences of the 'confusion' that kids

Re: [IAEP] Data vs Critical Thinking - Can Sugar give schools both?

2010-04-20 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 06:01:33 am Caroline Meeks wrote: Why can't computers for children both give them the means for creation, independent learning, collaboration etc etc. and give their teacher detailed, nuanced, actionable data on what skills they have mastered and what they are still

Re: [IAEP] Data vs Critical Thinking - Can Sugar give schools both?

2010-04-23 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Thursday 22 April 2010 07:33:25 pm Caroline Meeks wrote: 1. Software that assess students, track and displays results, quickly and efficiently without using up a lot of instructional time. 2. Software and a content library that analyzes these results and gives students the right learning

Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?

2010-09-28 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 28 Sep 2010 2:59:57 am Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: The 5th graders took pretty well to Etoys. It is the drawing piece that hooks them, and then the scripting part that really challenges them. And the 7th and 8th graders love Scratch. It is interesting to me because they also do plenty

Re: [IAEP] First evaluation results from OLPC Peru

2010-10-02 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 01 Oct 2010 6:39:09 pm Christoph Derndorfer wrote: * demand for better teacher preparation * low percentage of pupils who can use the laptop outside of school (~50%) * lack of connectivity (only 1,4% of schools have Internet access, Mesh use is very limited) * lack of technical and

Re: [IAEP] NN, Mitra, and the role of the teacher

2010-10-30 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 29 Oct 2010 3:21:55 pm Teemu Leinonen wrote: On 26.10.2010, at 20.12, Caryl Bigenho wrote: I watched Negroponte on the Colbert show last night. Nice. He seems to have toned down his former we don't need teachers... kids will do it all line a bit, but it is still implied.

Re: [IAEP] NN, Mitra, and the role of the teacher

2010-10-31 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Sunday 31 Oct 2010 9:25:30 am Caryl Bigenho wrote: Actually, Mitra's Grannies may not be actual grand parents and they do have a curriculum. True. A Grannie need not necessarily be a grand parent of the learner but a curriculum-driven learning is very limiting, esp. in India with its extreme

Re: [IAEP] NN, Mitra, and the role of the teacher

2010-10-31 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 01 Nov 2010 9:43:28 am Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: Are y'all familiar with the RIVER Project? (Rishi Valley Institute for Educational Resources) their website doesn't do quite justice on how concepts like this multi-age social-based mentoring that is being shared have in a most

Re: [IAEP] NN, Mitra, and the role of the teacher

2010-11-01 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 01 Nov 2010 2:07:49 pm Rakesh Biswas wrote: Thanks Subbu for the great link on the Rishi valley initiative. err... It was Yamandu Poslonka who posted the link. .. Subbu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Granny Cloud

2010-11-02 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 02 Nov 2010 8:17:34 am Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi All... Here is a concise article that summarizes Sugata Mitra's work with the Granny Cloud. Note he says a 1 to 1 model doesn't work. He uses 4 to 1. http://dnc.digitalunite.com/2010/07/29/granny-cloud-to-teach-children-via-

Re: [IAEP] 90% fluency Re: Granny Cloud

2010-11-03 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Wednesday 03 Nov 2010 3:43:35 am Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: hmm, sure..., sorry What does it mean? 90% of the children get 100%? Is there a sliding scale / bell curve? what is fluency, anyway? fluency in what? I can share my experience in helping out Sikshana (www.sikshana.org).