Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello John, I have been reading my digest copy of yesterday's posts and found a bunch of similar replies. I will not assume that you can actually access ISPF EDIT on your mainframe. If you do and you edit the JCL you most likely wont know that in columns 73- 80 there may be line numbers. The

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-29 Thread Shane
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:40 -0500, Bill Seubert wrote: When we can connect customers who have skill issues to the universities from which they hire students, ... Excuse my sceptocity, but such customers exist ??? From my perspective, seems that customers are more willing to hire expertise than

Re: OSA SF and IOACMD

2006-07-29 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: Did it ever occur to you that the same is true for using USS when you don't mean USS? Give it a rest! Even IBM calls it USS. The weight of the world must not be on your shoulders if you have nothing to worry about besides a silly anacronym. Ted, Calm down, it is not

Re: HSA Estimate

2006-07-29 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: HSA is currently at 128mb. All main is allocated, no slop anywhere. If HSA grows, then I'll lose an LPAR. 128MB is nothing for HSA, these days. If you are so tight that an increase to such a small HSA is an issue, you have a bigger problem than the size of HSA! At

Re: IOCDS with VM and zOS LPARS

2006-07-29 Thread R.S.
Marc Holiwell wrote: I am currently running two LPARs (with zOS 1.4 as OSes) on a IBM 2086 model A04(220), and would like to know if it is possible to create an IOCDS that will support an LPAR with VM as the OS, and another LPAR with zOS as the OS...??? As other already mentioned, LPAR

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread R.S.
Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:57:30 -0300 That said, others have told you about UNNUM; that will indeed delete those sequence numbers, which in fact are not annoying. It appeared to me that the OP, perhaps using

Re: OSA SF and IOACMD

2006-07-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Calm down, it is not worth to worry about. Actually, I was calm! It just seems that some people can't take a hint, so I raised the tone of my response. Schmeul, nobody wants to hear it! BTW, I'm taking the kill file route, too. So, respond if you like, I won't see it! When in doubt. PANIC!!

Re: HSA Estimate

2006-07-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
These days, I would plan for a minimum of 1GB HSA, and a minimum of 3 per LPAR. More if it's doing real work (DB2, IMS, or CICS). Wrong plans IMHO. HSA size strongly depends on CPC generation. Before z/990 (that means 9672, z/900, z/800) HSA size was related to IODF size - number of

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread Steve Comstock
R.S. wrote: Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:57:30 -0300 That said, others have told you about UNNUM; that will indeed delete those sequence numbers, which in fact are not annoying. It appeared to me that the OP,

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-29 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Friday 28 July 2006 23:47, Steve Myers wrote: At step end, the initiator will DEQ any DSNs that are no longer needed, i.e. those which are not referenced on a DD in any later step. This change was fairly recent. Originally, the data set ENQ lasted for the life of the job. I do not

Re: 2105 to 2107 Migration Question

2006-07-29 Thread Joel C. Ewing
When IBM migrated our DASD from 2105 to 2107 1st Q this year (on a 2064-106), FDRPAS is the tool they brought with them. CPU use by FDRPAS was not an issue - device activity and channel activity could be, especially if you have any specific devices that are already showing up as a performance

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, R.S. said: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:42:19 +0200 Perhaps you feel that all utilities, on all platforms, should process only columns 1-72 of their input data. Ain't gonna happen. Even some mainframe programs interpret it as data, with funny effects somtimes.

Sequence Numbers

2006-07-29 Thread Keith E. Moe
AFAIK the sequence numbers are completely useless nowadays. It was used for punched card sorter. Is there any other application ? OK. Anyone who agree with the above statement is no longer allowed to use ++MACUPT or ++SRCUPD in SMP or to ever use IEBUPDTE. Granted, these are very special,

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread john gilmore
SNs were useful when cataloged procedures and source programs were maintained using such batch edit utilities as IEBUPDTE and IEBUPDAT. Their current uses are exiguous; they are of only antiquarian interest; and even that interest has, it seems to me, been exhausted. John Gilmore Ashland, MA

wd4z JES job Monitor

2006-07-29 Thread Mary Kay Tubello
I just installed wd4z 6.01. Having trouble starting the JES Jmonitor on the default port of 6715 on a zos 1.6 system. It works on a test 1.7 system. It starts ok if the port number is 3 digits, but not when it is 4 digits. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Mary Kay

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/29/2006 5:42:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK the sequence numbers are completely useless nowadays. It was used for punched card sorter. Is there any other application ? Your PARMLIB and a few others are maintained by SMP/E with

Re: wd4z JES job Monitor

2006-07-29 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Mary Kay Tubello wrote: I just installed wd4z 6.01. Having trouble starting the JES Jmonitor on the default port of 6715 on a zos 1.6 system. It works on a test 1.7 system. It starts ok if the port number is 3 digits, but not when it is 4 digits. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Mary Kay Do

New Mainframe Installations Education

2006-07-29 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
Several hours ago, I had entered a nice email on this topic that was running under the subject of: Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics . Since I spent about 10 minutes composing it, the **^% web site that I use to read IBM-Main on my laptop timed out. Usually, I

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
john gilmore wrote: SNs were useful when cataloged procedures and source programs were maintained using such batch edit utilities as IEBUPDTE and IEBUPDAT. Their current uses are exiguous; they are of only antiquarian interest; and even that interest has, it seems to me, been exhausted.

Re: Why CLOSE gets rc=4

2006-07-29 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I have been burned in the past by the syntax for OPEN and CLOSE not being identical. You have an extra pair of parentheses in your CLOSE which I believe is causing the macro to interpret your DCB address as being an expression (R3) rather than a register reference, which would mean it would

Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-29 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:16:44 -0400 Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :While that is true, since non-reentrent code loaded out of an APF :authorized library is loaded into KEY 8 storage, there is an integrity :exposure if said code is loaded into a multi-user address space, since :it is open

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Their current uses are exiguous; they are of only antiquarian interest; and even that interest has, it seems to me, been exhausted. REPEAT AFTER ME! SMP is your friend! SMP NEEDS statement numbers. When in doubt. PANIC!!

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread john gilmore
Ted MacNeil WRITES: REPEAT AFTER ME! SMP is your friend! SMP NEEDS statement numbers. SMP certainly uses SNs and IEBUPDTE in some contexts. Equally, it omits to use them in others where it could do so. It never needs to use them, and it would be well if it had stopped doing so long

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread Ed Gould
John, While your statement is true it would seem to me JES2 (JES3?) still sends out source and as long as it does then statement sequence numbers are needed. I vaguely remember that IBM at one time said they were going to stop sending out source for the JES's. They have done this with

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-29 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ed Gould wrote: While your statement is true it would seem to me JES2 (JES3?) still sends out source and as long as it does then statement sequence numbers are needed. I vaguely remember that IBM at one time said they were going to stop sending out source for the JES's. They have done this

Re: Why CLOSE gets rc=4

2006-07-29 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Oh, the hazards of working without coding examples and manuals at hand! Obviously I've suffered a memory parity error and the peculiar failures in the past that I'm thinking of must have been from using CLOSE (R3) rather than CLOSE ((R3)), which I confirmed does indeed pass the contents of