DFSORT anomaly?

Hi all, WE are running z/OS 1.6 with no plans to upgrade because we aren't going to fork out any more for Tivoli 8.3. We also have Enterprise COBOL. This is the problem... The file was allocated Cyl,(15,5) and 16 records written to it by the COBOL program, it thus expanded to 3 volumes and

SV: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

I really like this list. :) _ Thomas Berg Specialist IT Utveckling Swedbank AB (Publ) -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Craddock, Chris Skickat: den 22

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Van Dalsen, Herbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Hi all, WE are running z/OS 1.6 with no plans to upgrade because we aren't going to fork out any more for Tivoli 8.3. We also have Enterprise COBOL. This is the problem... The file was allocated Cyl,(15,5)

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Kees, That is actually that happens... Step1 creates the file, Step2 Makes a backup, using IDCAMS, and the backup does have 16000 records, and step3 does the sort... very weird... //DEL005 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD3 DD DSN=HUBRECHT.SORTINOUT, // DISP=(MOD,DELETE,DELETE), //

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:31:45 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 1:38 PM -0600 on 1/21/08, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?: When the mother needs the daughter's assistance, it WAITs on the second ECB, clears it, and POSTS the first. ONLY IF the

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/21/2008 at 11:10 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have believed, and other updates to this thread appear to concur, that WAIT/POST are older than CS. At some time, then, WAIT/POST code must have used some other locking mechanism. That much is true.

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] t... Van Dalsen, Herbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Kees, That is actually that happens... Step1 creates the file, Step2 Makes a backup, using IDCAMS, and the backup

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Kees, What bugs me is the following... Whether we have 90,000 of 160,000 records, the final number remains Display from COBOL PGM... T735 WRITTEN = 050634 Display from DFSORT...RECORDS - IN: 45900, OUT: 45900 Display from COBOL PGM... T735 WRITTEN = 052687 Display from DFSORT...

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Van Dalsen, Herbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Kees, That is actually that happens... Step1 creates the file, Step2 Makes a backup, using IDCAMS, and the backup does have 16000 records, and step3 does the sort... very weird... //DEL005 EXEC

Re: New Mainframes coming in February

I don't quite understand the confusion either between BC and EC. I always kept them straight by remembering that B is before E in the alphabet, so therefore the BC is the smaller one. Also, you can think B for Basic. Eric Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, what are the

Re: New Mainframes coming in February

Mark, I think the word is scalability... If you have a business that is growing at the pace of 26 MIPS per year, the BC is for you, which means you can go up with smaller increments not having the ISV's crippling your cash flow because you was forced to go to a MSU100 from the MSU50 you had, even

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

You can be certain that POST will always support the CS quick-post protocol and the LOCAL LOCK. I'm curious, as nothing pops to mind: has there been any case where the serialization of a documented programming interface has changed? Maybe I should limit my question to z/OS BCP where compatibility

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

I told you: you can rely on the DFSort team to react promptly. Great service! Kees. David Betten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] om... Herbie, Send the sysout from your job directly to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I'll take a look. We may need you to open an ETR

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

That was my initial thinking, but I did not want to cloud anyone else's thinking... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shedlock, George Sent: 22 Januarie 2008 01:05 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT anomaly? Is it

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Thanks Kees, We came up with a similar idea about the same time you sent the previous email about the separate in/out, although I did not want to bite on it as a cause because I have seen sort inside COBOL programs using the same in/out. Will be interesting to see where this is going... Regards

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Herbie, Send the sysout from your job directly to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I'll take a look. We may need you to open an ETR on this but let me take a look first. Have a nice day, Dave Betten DFSORT Development, Performance Lead IBM Corporation email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DFSORT/MVSontheweb

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Is it possible that the COBOL program is not closing the file and therefore any additional extents are not reflected in the VTOC / Catalog entry? George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:00:52 -0500, Peter Relson wrote: You can be certain that POST will always support the CS quick-post protocol and the LOCAL LOCK. OK. I'll be confident. But why is this not documented in the Assembler Services Reference? Interestingly, there, I see for POST: #

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

What confused me though was why could IDCAMS copy the whole file to a backup? Regards Herbie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: 22 Januarie 2008 01:20 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Relson) writes: You can be certain that POST will always support the CS quick-post protocol and the LOCAL LOCK. re:

Re: New Mainframes coming in February

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/21/2008 at 04:12 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Whose trademark is Firewire? I believe that it's an Apple® trademark for an IEEE standard that Apples does not own. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

IBM Bookmanager Library Server

Does anyone have a url for the above that contains the bookshelf for DB2 Version 9 for z/OS. I've got the following one but it only goes up to DB2 Version 8 - http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/handheld/Connected/library Jim McAlpine

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

I haven't seen any job output yet but I wanted to share this information from DFSORT Application Programming Guide *** For a copy application, the SORTIN data set should not be the same as the SORTOUT data set or any OUTFIL data set because this can cause lost or incorrect data or unpredictable

Re: IBM Bookmanager Library Server

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:46:17 +, Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a url for the above that contains the bookshelf for DB2 Version 9 for z/OS. I've got the following one but it only goes up to DB2 Version 8 - http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but how come this persons posts are always so complicated to work through with all of the pieces and URL links? Is it the function of how they are posting (i.e. perhaps online with certain options), or is this a manual effort? I'm hoping to not spark a

Re: IBM Bookmanager Library Server

Here it is again !!! http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/Shelves/dsnshka1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ATTEMPTING TO FIND MIGRAT2 VOLSER

You can look at the FSR record (type 5) in SMF and it'll have the info. Also you should look at the archive because there was a lot of discussion about corrupted restores, not recall, as best as I can remember. Sometimes users mix up restore and recall.. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office)

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

David, I was under the impression that Anne Lynn Wheeler is in fact some sort of Turing machine inspired effort and not a real person at all. It seems to get triggered every once in a while on certain keywords and then inserts a load of ancient history into the related post.but then again

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Thanks for that, The only problem that I have is the fact that 45900 seems to be some sort of a threshold, and that if you have less than 45900 records to sort/copy it does not happen. Regards Herbie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

David Logan wrote: Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but how come this persons posts are always so complicated to work through with all of the pieces and URL links? Is it the function of how they are posting (i.e. perhaps online with certain options), or is this a manual effort?

OMVS.ETC

When I installed my new z/OS 1.9 system I specified that I wanted to use zFS for OMVS. root, sibmroot, and var were created as zFS, but .etc was created as HFS. Is anyone aware of a reason that .etc is still HFS? Should I be able to convert it to a zFS? Thanks -- Mark Pace Mainline

CICS Wiki news.

Hello all, here is some Wiki news. 1. The first old CICS website has been adopted into the Wiki. Check it out at http://cicswiki.org/cicswiki1/index.php?title=CICSCentral 2. I added the Yellow brick moment where Bob Yelavich will entertain us with CICS trivia.

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Your problem is OPTION COPY. With OPTION COPY you are not really sorting. In a real sort you would read ALL of the input and then write the output. In that case the input and output can be the same file. What is happening in your case is you are reading and writing to the same file at the

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

David Betten wrote on 01/22/2008 06:53:52 AM: I haven't seen any job output yet but I wanted to share this information from DFSORT Application Programming Guide *** For a copy application, the SORTIN data set should not be the same as the SORTOUT data set or any OUTFIL data set because this

Re: Rexx IRXIC and IRXEXEC question

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/19/2008 at 09:26 PM, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I imagine it's more a case of running a batch TMP. You should be able to send and receive command input and output, but I would guess that a command trying to prompt would get a nasty RC from GETLINE or

Re: OMVS.ETC

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:22:19 -0500, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I installed my new z/OS 1.9 system I specified that I wanted to use zFS for OMVS. root, sibmroot, and var were created as zFS, but .etc was created as HFS. Is anyone aware of a reason that .etc is still HFS? Should I

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan) writes: Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but how come this persons posts are always so complicated to work through with

Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

Edward, It may be better asked off list, but I have been wondering the same thing for a long time as well. Frankly, I'm glad the question was asked. Can anyone offer a definitive answer? Or just speculation? Chuck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

I should not ask the question, but do they exist or is it a 'virus' inside IBM-MAIN? Herbie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hardee, Charles H Sent: 22 Januarie 2008 04:08 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Wheeler

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Thanks to everyone for replying to this. I am definitely going to get the apps guys to change the JCL. I just haven't whether it would be to change it to a sort, or create a second dataset. Will read the recommendations between the lines of the DFSORT manual... Regards Herbie -Original

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for another reference there was this article in ibm systems mag. 3 years ago although some of the details are

Re: CICS Wiki news.

Corneel - I've just created myself an ID on the CICS Wiki - how do I become a member of the Team? -- Regards - Grant Grant Ward Able Senior Systems Architect DTCC Corneel Booysen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM

Some help with GDG dataset control

Hi, I need some help to understand what will happen with GDG data sets under control following GDG index: //MYJOB JOB (1234),'BODRA' //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSIN DD * DEFINE GDG(NAME(MYLIB.LIB.TEST)- LIMIT(02)

Re: IBM Bookmanager Library Server

Excellent, thank you. Jim McAlpine On 1/22/08, Ramiro Camposagrado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is again !!! http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/Shelves/dsnshka1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Some help with GDG dataset control

---snip- I need some help to understand what will happen with GDG data sets under control following GDG index: //MYJOB JOB (1234),'BODRA' //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS//SYSIN DD * DEFINE GDG(NAME(MYLIB.LIB.TEST)

Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

Lynn has answered that question a while ago. Check the archives. (His or ibm-main's) -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: 22 Januarie 2008 04:51 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?) Lynn has answered that question a

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/22/2008 at 10:00 AM, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: but then again that could describe quite a few board members :-) There are none; this is not a boars. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Thanks, This way I will not have to impact the jobs lower down the stream... Regards Herbie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Betten Sent: 22 Januarie 2008 04:36 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

I would change the dataset names instead of changing the copy to a sort. Today, probably not much difference but if the file size grows over time, the copy is going to be faster and require less resources than a sort. I'd change the following Add a DD5 to your initial DEL005 step with a new data

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

Paul Gilmartin wrote: (I did say clear the ECB before POSTing the other task, didn't I?) That's should, not must. And why not? It can't really matter, because even if the code is the minimal: WAIT L R1,ECBPreserve condition code XCECB,ECB

Re: Rexx IRXIC and IRXEXEC question

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:33:16 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/19/2008 at 09:26 PM, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I imagine it's more a case of running a batch TMP. You should be able to send and receive command input and output, but I

Re: IEFACTRT exit

Thanks for the information and suggestions. DAE doesn't show anything recent for the LPAR in question. We're going for the simple minded plan, too! We already stop and restart our production initiators freqently, for other reasons, and we will now do the same for the applications development

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

One little glitch remains. The mother needs to know when the daugnter is ready to accept more work. Either of the following works: o The daughter can simply clear the ECB to zeroes and the mother can use this as an indication that the daughter is ready to be POSTed. But in some

RES: IEFACTRT exit

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Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:00:52 -0500, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can be certain that POST will always support the CS quick-post protocol and the LOCAL LOCK. I've never understood why, after all these years, IBM hasn't put the quick-post code right into the POST macro. Of course

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

(I did say clear the ECB before POSTing the other task, didn't I?) That's should, not must. And why not? It can't really matter, because even if the code is the minimal: WAIT L R1,ECBPreserve condition code XCECB,ECB Clear ECB

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

Craddock, Chris wrote: More typically you also need to develop a robust queuing mechanism for passing work requests and responses between requesters and servers. That is because, if you look dispassionately at the ECB as an interface, there is no way to avoid the potential of missing an

Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

Here, for instance: http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/msg/7941aee482af5b4 8? Jon snip Lynn has answered that question a while ago. Check the archives. (His or ibm-main's) /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Copying Unix tar file to tape

Just to clarify this from my experimenting, SDB does not do the trick; IEBGENER hurks up a hairball if you try this. Thanks, Jon //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD DUMMY //SYSUT1 DD PATH='/path/to/file.tar',FILEDATA=BINARY, // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=1,BLKSIZE=8000)

Re: OMVS.ETC

We have been running etc as a zFS since 1.6 Actually, we were running zFS on all OMVS files except for root since 1.6 at 1.8, I did zFS for the root as well. No more HFS -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Copying Unix tar file to tape

Thanks for the tips, folks. I think I'm going to switch to pax for now, and I have downloaded omvstape to look at later. By the way, there is a slight misprint in the 1.8 Unix commands manual. To add parameters to dictate space allocation and such, the format is something like this: pax -W

Z Education Needs

zFolks, What are specific concerns in the field for IBM mainframe education or knowledge requirements: 1. When a IBM z/OS (zLinux) or mainframe Sales Rep., IT Architect, FTSS (field technical support) or ITS (IT Specialist) comes to your site to: market, explain integration,

Re: Is msys for Setup widely used? Is it useful to some of you?

I'm sorry for this late reply but as of z/OS V1R8, msys for Setup is no longer used. Debbie Noll z/OS UNIX ID planner John Mattson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is msys for Setup widely used? Is it useful to some of you? It looks like it could have potential, but maybe someone hear has

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:37:34 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: Paul Gilmartin wrote: (I did say clear the ECB before POSTing the other task, didn't I?) That's should, not must. And why not? It can't really matter, because even if the code is the minimal: WAIT L

Re: Copying Unix tar file to tape

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:40:10 -0500, Jon Brock wrote: Thanks for the tips, folks. I think I'm going to switch to pax for now, and I have downloaded omvstape to look at later. OK, since this came back, I wrote earlier off-list to whoever suggested pax that both tar and pax can use Classic data

Re: Z Education Needs

They need to realize that System z z/OS. John H Kettner wrote: zFolks, What are specific concerns in the field for IBM mainframe education or knowledge requirements: 1. When a IBM z/OS (zLinux) or mainframe Sales Rep., IT Architect, FTSS (field technical support) or ITS (IT

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

I had sent an earlier post that got lost in the ether You could simply change the input of the COPY step to use the GDG generation you created in the BACKUP step. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Betten Sent:

Re: OMVS.ETC

I'm not sure why the Dialogs created it as HFS, and everything else as zFS. I went ahead and converted it to zFS and I now I'm totally zFS. Thanks for the information. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Z Education Needs

John H Kettner wrote: zFolks, What are specific concerns in the field for IBM mainframe education or knowledge requirements: 1. When a IBM z/OS (zLinux) or mainframe Sales Rep., IT Architect, FTSS (field technical support) or ITS (IT Specialist) comes to your site to: market, explain

No local ports available IP printers

Hi all... we converted over the weekend from z/OS 1.4 and CA TCPIP to z/OS 1.7 with both IBM and CA stacks. The IBM stack is running all sockets, etc. The CA stack only does telnet and ftp. My problem... We use the old EPS product to send prints from the mainframe to network printers and it is

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:51:29 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Craddock, Chris wrote: More typically you also need to develop a robust queuing mechanism for passing work requests and responses between requesters and servers. That is because, if you look dispassionately at the ECB as an interface,

Re: DFSORT anomaly?

Or, if you absolutely, positively want/need to keep the output in the dataset you initially created, simply change the JCL to use the GDG you created in the IDCAMS step as the input dataset to the COPY. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Respond Privately to z Ed. Input needs

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Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 13:22 -0500, Craddock, Chris wrote: Did I mention it was a crap mechanism? I must have missed that nuance - could you explain a little what you mean ??? . . . g,d,r Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:51:29 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Rather, to request that a service task perform some function, one should put the request on a queue and then POST the ECB on which the service task WAITs for work. (Note: In a design involving multiple requesters,

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1 Snipped In anything but the most trivial case

Re: Z Education Needs

They need to know and understand that not everyone runs just z/OS, DB2 and Websphere. Some of us (non-team-players) run z/VM and Linux and have real non-Websphere workloads on both z/VM and Linux. /Tom Kern On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:59:19 -0500, John H Kettner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: zFolks,

Re: Z Education Needs

Hi, 'Comes to the site ? a) They need to know : 1) What the customer is licensed for 2) Who the audience is 3) What their Claim to fame is 4) What to indentify the Customers needs 5) When to say I do not know, but i will get back to you b) They should not have to 1) Have the latest bells and

Re: Can a pdf document be create using COBOL?

I want to thank everyone who responded to my question. I have passed this information on to our development staff. They are going to evaluate each suggestion and see which one best fits our needs. Thanks, Ray Phone: (502) 564-8952 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From:

Re: No local ports available IP printers

On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 13:31 -0600, Johnston, Robert E wrote: In times of busy printing (like today) messages come from EPS say no local ports available. LPR (the printer client) is historically defined to use one of ports 721-731. If you have more than 11 simultaneous LPRs going on a single

Re: Copying Unix tar file to tape

I am trying to write out a Unix System Services file -- a tar archive -- to tape. For simplicity's sake, I was planning on using IEBGENER, but I'm a bit confused as to what file characteristics to use for this. Anybody out there have any sample JCL? Unix tar files have a length that is a

Re: Re-hosting IMB-MAIN (was RE: z890 2086-160 w/ 2 IFLs on eBay)

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:29:39 -0600, Darren Evans-Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... It's amazing how a post degenerates into a wild rumour. (not your post Shmuel) ... Actually, this thread started in a pretty degenerate state - asking about rehosting IBM-Main. Our own FUD added UA dropping

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farley, Peter x23353) writes: Granted, but the converse is also true: A posix-style semaphore or queuing mechanism is way overkill for the

Re: Copying Unix tar file to tape

Glen, Thanks for this information. I don't think I have seen this any place else. Jon snip Unix tar files have a length that is a multiple of 512. I would expect either RECFM=FB LRECL=512, or RECFM=U and a block size some multiple of 512. Each file stored in a tar file has a 512

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:49:34 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Rather, to request that a service task perform some function, one should put the request on a queue and then POST the ECB on which the service task WAITs for work. (Note: In a design involving multiple requesters, many such requests

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

Would you mind, Paul, giving a couple of examples of real life programs that you are thinking about? I know personally that I couldn't get my head around this stuff unless I imagined some sort of application and how it would work using threads. Three things came to mind: How does DB2 do it?

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

Paul Gilmartin wrote: Aha! At last I see. That answers my question to Peter R. But I was envisioning a technique in which only one task at a time updates the queue, handing it back and forth with two ECBs. Now there's still need to manage concurrent accesses to the queue. I suppose CS can

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:00:07 -0600, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Whenever the queue is empty, the queue emptier WAITs. But if the queue is storage constrained, it can fill up. What does the queue filler do then? ... I don't think there can be a general answer to that question.

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:28:42 +0100, Lindy Mayfield wrote: Would you mind, Paul, giving a couple of examples of real life programs that you are thinking about? With apologies: It's been decades since I did it; the language was not Assembler but Pascal; it would be difficult or impossible to find

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:28:02 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: I don't think there can be a general answer to that question. If the queue is full the queue filler has to stop putting stuff on the queue. That means it has to stop accepting (or generating) its input, or has to throw that input away.

Re: Wheeler Postings

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Brock) writes: Here, for instance: http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/msg/7941aee482af5b48? i.e. also archived here

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

Craddock, Chris wrote: Nope! After a normal post the compare value is going to be X'4000' and the swap value is going to be 0. If another post intervenes and stores another X'4000' in place of the first, then the compare is going to succeed and you'll miss a valid post. There's no way

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

Whenever the queue is empty, the queue emptier WAITs. But if the queue is storage constrained, it can fill up. What does the queue filler do then? There are at least two types of queues; static queues, where all of the elements are pre-allocated/formatted by the queue owner and dynamic

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

Lindy Mayfield wrote: I know personally that I couldn't get my head around this stuff unless I imagined some sort of application and how it would work using threads. Assume you have a start task that is designed to service requests from VTAM terminals. With the current VTAM design, one task

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

Gerhard wrote: Craddock, Chris wrote: Nope! After a normal post the compare value is going to be X'4000' and the swap value is going to be 0. If another post intervenes and stores another X'4000' in place of the first, then the compare is going to succeed and you'll miss a valid

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

I don't understand the reams of discussion about how to handle multiple threads working on a single ECB, or even a single thread spuriously posting an ECB. It isn't what it was designed for. To me, saying that ECB is a poor design is like saying a bicycle is poor design because you can't use it

Re: I want to add virtual printer to my MFNetDisk, Any value?

I agree that having a virtual printer feature may not be very useful. I wonder, though, if a feature to create virtual tape in AWSTAPE format, either on a remote PC or on the mainframe itself as a file, would be useful. When we ran z/OS under FLEX-ES, we had the capability to run z/OS jobs

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:36:02 -0500, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I've been using it a little while myself :-) and so I do agree that when used entirely within it's most tightly constrained boundaries it works. But as I pointed out earlier there are many unobvious traps for the

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child? (1

I don't understand the reams of discussion about how to handle multiple threads working on a single ECB, or even a single thread spuriously posting an ECB. It isn't what it was designed for. Given it was the only mechanism provided, by definition it was intended for all synchronization

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