Re: z9 over-heating prevention

2008-03-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
One of the more interesting attributes is that the machine will do everything possible to keep your work moving as best it can even if there's a double MRU failure. It can slow down the processors to reduce heat. WLM (assuming z/OS) is still in control, so heat-related forced slowdowns will tend

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread R.S.
Ian wrote: I did a polls recently to see what new development is happening on CICS specifically. The result was very surprising. Out of 190 votes only 5% said that they have no new development plans. 48% said that the new development is in Natural 28% said COBOL 1. This is based on 190 votes.

Re: SMF System Logger - limitations of MANx

2008-03-26 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mark Zelden wrote: [...] As mentioned... lots in the archives about this (even before the recent threads). 1) Speed of offloading (being able to keep up with records being written). IMHO I can live with it (YMMV). In

Jonathan Miller/PHEAA is out of the office.

2008-03-26 Thread Jonathan Miller
I will be out of the office starting 03/26/2008 and will not return until 03/27/2008. == This message contains privileged and confidential information intended for the above addressees only. If you receive this

Re: Console exits

2008-03-26 Thread Dave Cartwright
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:35:28 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to write a console exit. I have an example for msg IEE362A, but it is a single line message. The message I want to trap and process is IEE391A which is a multiple line message. Can anyone point me at the manual

Re: Long translate (TR) instruction?

2008-03-26 Thread William H. Blair
Edward Jaffe wrote: The following fragment should work if you prefer looping TRE over traditional TR. TRE requires you to manually translate the so-called stop character with an MVC. But, at least there's no EXecute for the final segment. LM R14,R15,xx Load string ptr

Re: help

2008-03-26 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
Help! I need somebody, Help! Not just anybody, Help! You know I need someone, To help me! When I was young, but so much younger than today, I never needed anybody's help in any way, But now these days are gone and I'm not so self assured, Now I find I've changed my mind I've opened up the doors.

Re: help

2008-03-26 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Sorry, not the American Idol tryouts! Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com IBM Mainframe

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL [ snip ] One outsourced their development to India because they couldn't find any new COBOL programmers. At a price they were willing to pay, perhaps -jc-

Re: S0C4 in IEBCOPY on z/OS 1.8

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Zelden
For the archives Someone just wrote me about this post from June 2007 and I realized I never followed up in IBM-MAIN. On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:54:00 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:47:20 -0400, Petersen, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if anyone

Re: z9 over-heating prevention

2008-03-26 Thread Patrick Falcone
This kind of also ties into the *gas gauge* available for z9 with driver upgrade. I thought this little pdf interesting. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/systems/z/pdf/z9_Gas_Gauge_Driver_manual.pdf under http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/energy/index.html Timothy Sipples

Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program

2008-03-26 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
You didn't show your EPSPT job, so this is a guess, but ensure the SMPCSI DD statement specifies the CSI data set for your global zone (SMPE.ZOS17.GLOBAL.CSI), not the CSI data set name for your target zone. The PARM then specifies the name of your target zone (PZOS17A). Kurt Quackenbush --

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
Are you referring to the ISFPRM00 parmlib member? The ISFOPER group starts off like this: GROUP NAME(ISFOPER),/* Group name */ TSOAUTH(JCL,OPER), /* User must have JCL and OPER */ ACTION(ALL),/* All route codes displayed

Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program

2008-03-26 Thread Matt Dazzo
I updated the program to the latest level. I tried to using the global csi and the target csi and I get the following messages. Job ends with cc=0 but I get an error in the report. Any ideas? Thanks Report Level:1.04.11 Last Update:2007/06/28 For target zone PZOS17A

Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Jacobs
Matt Dazzo wrote: I updated the program to the latest level. I tried to using the global csi and the target csi and I get the following messages. Job ends with cc=0 but I get an error in the report. Any ideas? Thanks + This is what I use in my job, works fine; //ZOS18EXEC

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:25:04 -0500, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you referring to the ISFPRM00 parmlib member? The ISFOPER group starts off like this: GROUP NAME(ISFOPER),/* Group name */ TSOAUTH(JCL,OPER), /* User must have JCL and OPER

Re: help

2008-03-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:38:41 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: Help! I need somebody, What was the point of posting that off-topic copyrighted work here? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program

2008-03-26 Thread Matt Dazzo
Here's what I'm running, no difference to me. //ESPSPT EXEC PGM=EPSPT,PARM='PZOS17A', //REGION=0M //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.EPSPT.HOST.TOOL.NEW //SMPECSI DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.ZOS17.GLOBAL.CSI //SYSINDD

Re: help

2008-03-26 Thread Steve Comstock
Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:38:41 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: Help! I need somebody, What was the point of posting that off-topic copyrighted work here? Maybe it's a cry for help. Maybe it's the OP just feeling whimsical. Maybe the OP is on drugs. Maybe we should

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
couldn't find any new COBOL programmers. At a price they were willing to pay, perhaps Perhaps. But, the main reason is nobody wanted to live there. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread Howard Brazee
On 26 Mar 2008 07:34:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: At a price they were willing to pay, perhaps Perhaps. But, the main reason is nobody wanted to live there. A company has a choice. It can be located where skilled labor is available and expensive - use external labor -

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
COBOL isn't sexy anymore. High schools are teaching PC stuff. And yet a myriad of code being used is on our mainframes. I once automated myself out of a support job. I am a dinosaur. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread Steve Comstock
Howard Brazee wrote: On 26 Mar 2008 07:34:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: At a price they were willing to pay, perhaps Perhaps. But, the main reason is nobody wanted to live there. A company has a choice. It can be located where skilled labor is available and

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread Steve Comstock
Daniel McLaughlin wrote: COBOL isn't sexy anymore. High schools are teaching PC stuff. And yet a myriad of code being used is on our mainframes. Well, COBOL isn't _percieved_ as sexy anymore. But you can handle ASCII and UNICODE and XML in COBOL. You can code COBOL CGIs to run under your z/OS

Re: WLM and TSO

2008-03-26 Thread Kelman, Tom
Your goal for first period TSO looks good. You probably want around 90% of your TSO transactions completing within that period. Check that out and if you don't increase the duration slightly. Another suggestion would be to bump the second period TSO importance level to 3 so it is running the

TDS: DB2 7 to DB8 SMF Data Usage

2008-03-26 Thread Fabio D'Alfonso
Hi, I would know if moving from DB2 7 to DB2 8 changes the way SMF records are created when running DB2 / CICS|BATCH|TSO commands. Thanks Fabio D'Alfonso -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Long translate (TR) instruction?

2008-03-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/24/2008 at 12:30 PM, Kirk Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm looking for the fastest way in assembler to translate data in one buffer to another using a 256-byte translate table. The fastest way on one model may not be the fastest way on another model. Any advise on

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/24/2008 at 03:30 PM, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I read sdsf. for the output. This essentially works, the problem is that when I run this in batch I only see myself. If I run this in TSO I can see all of the executing jobs on the system. Compare your

Re: WLM and TSO

2008-03-26 Thread Kelman, Tom
Boy Dave, you are aggressive with your TSO goals. Here we have them set as follows. I do like your third period though. If they are doing something in TSO that takes that much service than put them in never never land. Duration Imp.Description 800 2 80% complete within

JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-03-26 Thread Schwartz, Alan
There was some discussion about this last month but my question wasn't covered. I'm testing my first NJE/IP link and it's working. When the connection was made today I got IAZ0543I NETSRV1 TCP/IP connection with IP Addr: xxx.xxx.com Port: 2465 Successful. When I connected on Monday the port was

Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
When a dataset has multiple volumes allocated for example : Command - Enter / to select action Message Volume --- TAPEX.SMFCICS.DATA ??

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Mueller, David
If you type 'listc ent(/) all ' on the line-command for the dataset, it will get you a dynamic list-cat display that will include all of the volumes. David Mueller | Systems Programmer | DMS/CITS Phone: 850-414-9134 (Rm 107 SRC) | Fax: 850-921-8343 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We serve those who

Re: Console exits

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks to all that made suggestions. IEFU29 was the easiest alternative, other than the IPL needed. ;-) -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Virtual tape questions

2008-03-26 Thread Gregory Pinkowski
This site uses an STK virtual tape system cluster, which accumulates many virtual tape volumes onto a disk array cache and then to multi-volume-cartridges loaded robotically. It also replicates those virtual tape volumes to a disaster recovery site where they are cached and a second robotic

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Pace
The difference is outbound vs inbound port numbers. Outbound port numbers are almost always different and nothing to be concerned about. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Schwartz, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some discussion about this last month but my question wasn't covered.

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread George Rodriguez
If you use a product like TLMS, they supply an exec called TI that will provide the info you are looking for. I don't know of any other way to get the other volumes. Hope this helps... Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Cochran, Bill
It's just showing that you have 2 additional candidate volumes allocated. They have not yet been assigned. Thanks, Bill Cochran AIT Mainframe Storage 502-560-3025 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilbert Cardenas Sent:

Re: Virtual tape questions

2008-03-26 Thread Jack Kelly
snip can HSM be run in a mode which does not append to its old tapes snip I would image that you could get away with one ML2 tape per day. You could tell HSM to not reuse (append) to any tape (setsys partialtape) but your OCDS would probably get fairly large. I would simply execute a REXX to

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:37:04 -0400, Cochran, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just showing that you have 2 additional candidate volumes allocated. They have not yet been assigned. Thanks, Bill Cochran AIT Mainframe Storage 502-560-3025 That's kind of what I was thinking but I thought it

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Misstated - COBOL isn't perceived as sexy ,,, WE have over 500 servers in the room and we call it the chicken farm. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax:

Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program

2008-03-26 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
MSG 099: MSGBUFF = GIM44233IGIMMPVIA - A PREALLOCATED VSAM DATA SE MSG 099: MSGBUFF = T WAS NOT FOUND FOR THE GLOBAL ZONE. MSG 099: MSGBUFF = GIM50504S ** OPEN PROCESSING FAILED FOR THE GLOBAL MSG 099: MSGBUFF = ZONE. Looks like

Re: Virtual tape questions

2008-03-26 Thread Staller, Allan
The operating system does not know anything about the MVC's. MVC's are mounted on drives direct attached to the VTS, bypassing MVS IO entirely. The only places in MVS land that know anything about the MVC's are the TMC (where they are usually marked in delete status) and the HSC CDS's. Virtual

Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program

2008-03-26 Thread Birger Heede
DDNAME is SMPCSI not SMPECSI Birger Heede IBM Denmark Matt Dazzo wrote: Here's what I'm running, no difference to me. //ESPSPT EXEC PGM=EPSPT,PARM='PZOS17A', //REGION=0M //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.EPSPT.HOST.TOOL.NEW

Re: SMF System Logger - limitations of MANx

2008-03-26 Thread Skip Robinson
We've had occasional episodes of lost data. One case, which we think we've fixed via changes to automation, is the other side of the event-driven nature of MANx management. A strength of traditional SMF recording is that you dump and clear a MANx cluster in response to a message saying that it

Re: Virtual tape questions

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Zelden
snip can HSM be run in a mode which does not append to its old tapes snip We have a small LPAR that uses virtual tape only. We send ML2 to virtual tape and it starts a fresh tape each time ML2 migration is done. Since stacking is done on the back end there is no point in possibly recalling a

Re: Console exits

2008-03-26 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Mark Pace wrote: Thanks to all that made suggestions. IEFU29 was the easiest alternative, other than the IPL needed. ;-) An IPL is not needed. IEFU29 is handle thru the dynamic exit facility, so you an issue a command to add it. The module can be loaded by the exit facility, or added to

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread R.S.
Daniel McLaughlin wrote: Misstated - COBOL isn't perceived as sexy ,,, WE have over 500 servers in the room and we call it the chicken farm. COBOL vs distributed platforms ? Apples and oranges. The most popular banking application in Poland is written in COBOL, but the platform is Unix

Re: TDS: DB2 7 to DB8 SMF Data Usage

2008-03-26 Thread Scott Barry
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:08:13 +0100, Fabio D'Alfonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would know if moving from DB2 7 to DB2 8 changes the way SMF records are created when running DB2 / CICS|BATCH|TSO commands. Thanks Fabio D'Alfonso

Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program

2008-03-26 Thread Jousma, David
Take the E out of SMPECSI ___ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President Mainframe Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Dazzo Sent:

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Cochran, Bill
As far as I know, once it is allocated and gets the candidates, it doesn't release them. I'm not sure why it's getting 3 if you have 2 specified. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilbert Cardenas Sent: Wednesday, March 26,

Re: SMF System Logger - limitations of MANx

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:38:10 -0700, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've had occasional episodes of lost data. One case, which we think we've fixed via changes to automation, is the other side of the event-driven nature of MANx management. A strength of traditional SMF recording is that

Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program

2008-03-26 Thread Matt Dazzo
Thanks all, used SMPECSI instead of SMPCSI. Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/26/2008 12:46 PM Take the E out of SMPECSI ___ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President Mainframe Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original

Re: Is IT becoming extinct?

2008-03-26 Thread Howard Brazee
On 26 Mar 2008 10:22:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) wrote: BTW: COBOL has serious disadvantages. (and the war began...) Every tool has serious disadvantages - because no tool is all things for all people. It's not about the language though. IS is about the data.We need to make sure we

Re: Long translate (TR) instruction?

2008-03-26 Thread William H. Blair
Kirk Wolf said: I'm looking for the fastest way in assembler to translate data in one buffer to another using a 256-byte translate table. Want my test program to help you decide? Let me know. But don't waste your time. I already know the answer. Look at my TR subroutine in a previous post

Re: SMF System Logger - limitations of MANx

2008-03-26 Thread Scott Barry
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:38:10 -0700, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've had occasional episodes of lost data. One case, which we think we've fixed via changes to automation, is the other side of the event-driven nature of MANx management. A strength of traditional SMF recording is that

z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 upgrade differences question

2008-03-26 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hi list. I have a question (probably rather picky) going from z/OS 1.4 to 1.7. During testing of the 1.7 upgrade, I had an applications programmer run a batch COBOL/IDMS job that created and cataloged a new non-SMS dataset. The JCL is shown below - quite straightforward, and the dataset ends up

Re: Import Connect:Direct self-signed certificate into RACF?

2008-03-26 Thread Rob Schramm
You might review a presentation by Wai Choi. It does a nice job of explaining what is needed for certificate verification server and client. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/eserver/zseries/zos/racf/pdf/r05_racf_digital_certificate.pdf Sometimes just keeping all the certificate who's signing who

z9 BC Hardware Upgrade

2008-03-26 Thread Matt Dazzo
We maybe moving from a z890 to a z9 BC machine. We are running zos1.7 at RSU0709 maintenance level. I checked the hardware bucket for the z9-bc and ran the extract file through the host compare program and found only 3 PTF's required. My question is how do I determine if these PTF's can coexist

Re: z9 BC Hardware Upgrade

2008-03-26 Thread Miller, Pat
Well, you COULD just put it on and see if it IPLs. But FWIW, we did the same thing a little over a year ago. I'm pretty sure we were at 1.4 and there was considerably more service than 3 PTFs. Ran on the z890 just fine. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
That's kind of what I was thinking but I thought it was kind of weird because the file has been closed so why would it hold on to the additional volume allocations especially if they weren't used. So you can expand to those volumes if the dataset were to grow. - Too busy driving to stop for

Re: z9 BC Hardware Upgrade

2008-03-26 Thread Brian France
Matt, At the end of October we did just what you're doing. No problems putting in on the existing OS on the existing frame. As far as I know, and I've done this several times before, that PSP maint is not a problem to go on ahead to time as unless you're actually running the machine that

Re: z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 upgrade differences question

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:08:07 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The question that I have is that once the dataset has been created under 1.7, looking at it under ISPF 3.4, it looks like this - notice the SMS management class, etc: snip Hmmm.. It appears that panel ISRUAIES

Re: z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 upgrade differences question

2008-03-26 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Since we're talking 1.4 to 1.7 will IBM do that? Just curious. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Your TSO session is in group ISFOPER. Your batch job is in group ISFUSER. If the names are truly descriptive, one defines an operator who should be able to see almost everything and the other a user who is restricted to his own efforts. -Original Message- From: Rich Smrcina Sent:

Re: z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 upgrade differences question

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:13:16 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we're talking 1.4 to 1.7 will IBM do that? Just curious. Hmmm.. It appears that panel ISRUAIES is being used instead of ISRUAIP for non-sms flat files. I've confirmed the same behavior on z/OS 1.8 and

IBM C/C++ compiler cost?

2008-03-26 Thread McKown, John
Can anybody here tell me what the license fee is for the IBM C/C++ compiler? We had it at one time, but the last dying gasp of our previous manager killed it in a vain attempt to keep his job (he eliminated a lot of so-called waste to prove he was effective). I would like it back, although to be

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Raymond Noal
Gilbert, The display you are seeing for the data set's volume list is due to the fact that the data set is SMS managed. The * in the display of volumes indicates that SMS had additional volumes in its candidate list when the data set was allocated. The data set was only allocated on one volume

SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
I need remedial training in MVS disagnostic techniques. :-( I seem to have combined the concepts of QUIESCE yes/no and SYNCH / ASYNCH. I sort of understand that QUIESCE=YES protects common storage during dump capture by limiting the dispatching of other address spaces (and probably have the

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:44:05 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference is outbound vs inbound port numbers. Outbound port numbers are almost always different and nothing to be concerned about. ... More specifically, the end making the connection (the end acting as a client)

Re: SMF System Logger - limitations of MANx

2008-03-26 Thread Skip Robinson
A comment on duplicate data. I haven't dug into the actual data produced by IFASMFDL , but the doc says (in effect) that some duplicate records are inevitable (my extrapolation) because the utility begins by dumping the entire block that contains START time and continues through dumping the entire

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It's just showing that you have 2 additional candidate volumes allocated. They have not yet been assigned. It's a control block thing. It doesn't cost anything; it can protect you from future growth problems. The last two shops I worked at had 20 volumes allocated in most dataclasses. I would

Re: z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 upgrade differences question

2008-03-26 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Mark, I'll open a PMR on 1.7. I just wanted to know if it was a documented change that I had somehow missed before opening a PMR. Thanks. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Blaicher, Chris
A small caveat for your recommendation of 59 volumes. It does cost something to have 59 volumes for everything. It greatly reduces the total number of data sets you can have in your JCL. If all data sets only have a single DD you can have 3,273 DD's. If all data sets are defined with 59

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:38:09 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just showing that you have 2 additional candidate volumes allocated. They have not yet been assigned. It's a control block thing. It doesn't cost anything; it can protect you from future growth problems. The last two

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:14:21 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:38:09 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just showing that you have 2 additional candidate volumes allocated. They have not yet been assigned. It's a control block thing. It doesn't

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SVCDUMP processing question I need remedial training in MVS disagnostic techniques. :-( I seem to have

Re: Displaying multiple volumes allocated from DSLIST

2008-03-26 Thread Greg Shirey
According to this (somewhat old) redbook, the same amount of space is used. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246979.pdf From the SMS enhancements chapter: If a data set, with one primary and five candidate volumes was in a data class with a DVC of less than 7, then 24 bytes of TIOT

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Bob Rutledge
Thompson, Steve wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SVCDUMP processing question I need remedial training in MVS disagnostic

Re: SMF System Logger - limitations of MANx

2008-03-26 Thread Scott Barry
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:36:17 -0700, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A comment on duplicate data. I haven't dug into the actual data produced by IFASMFDL , but the doc says (in effect) that some duplicate records are inevitable (my extrapolation) because the utility begins by dumping the

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Rutledge Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SVCDUMP processing question Thompson, Steve wrote: snip QUIESCE is a new one on me, and I can't find

Link for I-Series?

2008-03-26 Thread Thompson, Steve
Is there an equivalent list server for the AS/400 systems as we have here with IBM-Main? I have this ugly feeling I'm going to need it. Regards, Steve Thompson -- All opinions expressed by me are my own and may not necessarily reflect those of my employer. --

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:34:26 -0400, Thompson, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... At least two places to look: MVS Authorized Services Guide and MVS System Commands discusses the SYNC aspects. QUIESCE is a new one on me, and I can't find anything for such an option with a dump. ...

IBMLink, again

2008-03-26 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My latest update to Record 79232,033,000: RESPOND ELECTRONICALLY: cp-extent Yow! I attempted to update this by adding

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:42:02 -0400, Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I can find SYNCSVCD under SLIP in an old Commands manual (1.4 I think) but not in our 1.8 manual. Odd. ... No comment. However... http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2G171/4.52.5.7?

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Bob Rutledge
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:42:02 -0400, Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I can find SYNCSVCD under SLIP in an old Commands manual (1.4 I think) but not in our 1.8 manual. Odd. ... No comment. However... http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Bob Rutledge
Bob Rutledge wrote: Patrick O'Keefe wrote: ... Just from the concept of synchronous I assume something is suspended in SYNCSVCD processing. And I assume that something is not as extensive as with QUIESCE=YES. My gut feeling is all processing in the dumped address space is suspended (which

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:48:32 -0400, Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Under SLIP ACTION=SYNCSVCD, it says: SLIP will stop the unit of work before starting the dump ... I should have added that, since SYNCSVCD is used (only) with PER traps, ... Aha! That explains why I can't find

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
Mark Zelden wrote: But I see 2 problems: 1) That still won't get you to fall into the ISFOPER group since it has TSOAUTH(JCL,OPER) and batch only gets TSOAUTH(JCL). Did you read my post from yesterday on this? Yes, I didn't have the ability to respond to all of the emails yesterday and I

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/26/2008 06:14:38 PM: Interesting. I can't find SYNC in the Auth Services Guide or under SDUMP/SDUMPX in the Auth Services Macros. I *can* find a very brief description of QUIESCE under SDUMP: Specifies that the system is to be

Re: SVCDUMP processing question

2008-03-26 Thread Jim Mulder
Well, I guess it depends on what unit of work means. If it means the TCB or RB, I agree. If it means the whole address space, then I'm not so sure. But I suspect it *does* mean the TCB or RB. I had not been thinking of it like that. In MVS, a unit of work is a TCB or an SRB/SSRB. But

Re: IBMLink, again

2008-03-26 Thread Kevin Keyes
thanks Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My latest update to Record 79232,033,000: RESPOND ELECTRONICALLY: cp-extent Yow!

Re: IBM C/C++ compiler cost?

2008-03-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
John, One major factor that will influence the price is whether the C/C++ compiler is fenced to a zNALC LPAR or not. I'll sketch out for you the two scenarios so you know the right question(s) to ask your IBM dude or dudette. In the usual scenario, the price depends on your total z/OS MSUs on