Steve,
How are you attached to the Net? I think (not sure, though) that some
routers have built-in network monitoring capabilities, at least basic stats
like you may need. Also, I think that Microsoft -- among others -- used to
have a Network Manager program that would allow to
I quite liked Lisp. I haven't messed with it in years, but I just downloaded a
version of Common Lisp that I plan to install on my laptop PC . . . where, no
doubt, it will sit unused like so many other evidences of good intentions.
Jon
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Making an OT thread even more OT, that reminds me of something I read just
yesterday -- the case of the 500-mile email:
http://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html
It's an interesting tale if you're into problem-solving.
Jon
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Faking an email address is fairly simple. Well, at least
I set up a Wiki (using PMWiki -- very easy) for our department,
runnning in a Linux guest under z/VM. I thought it worked pretty well.
Unfortunately, we no longer have z/VM or Linux on the mainframe, so it is down
for the moment. If I can ever get another box on which to host it I
In keeping with the name of your company, you should have burnt your old
building.
Jon
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Subject: Movin' on Up!
http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/newlocation.htm
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The next time you start a compile, toss some coins on the floor. The shiny
money usually distracts them.
Jon
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Unfortunately, I'm now back at my previous problem of can I download this jar
to my PC in order to do my compiles (not tests!) using it so that management
stays off my back? I
I generally just use the point-and-shoot options from the SDSF Print menu.
Jon
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You described the more archaic (and IMO, more cumbersome) version of the XDC
line command Lizette mentioned. You might want to look into the XDC line
command ;-)
/snip
(Leaving lurk mode.)
I think a distiction needs to be made between applying maintenance and simply
changing some things. Applying SMPE maintenance to a running system can be a
very Bad Idea. (Not that I haven't ever done it.) Changing system parameters,
load libraries, linklists, etc. is no
As long as I have temporarily left lurk mode, has anyone else begun having
problems with searching IBM-MAIN posts in Google Groups? I always used it
because: a) It kept some load off the archive servers; and b) It was faster
anyway. These days, though, it seems as if it has forgotten all of
In that case, I'd be safe!
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Always a good idea.
Let the people with the knowledge go.
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Indeed. Linux on z/VM Linux on bare-metal.
Jon
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Linux will run on the bare metal on any architecture, including S/390
and System z (recognizing that Basic mode has gone away with System z).
z/VM isn't a requirement, but it is a fantastic way to get the most out
of your hardware
That surprises me. The point of turning prompting off was so that you
wouldn't need to answer Y for each member.
Jon
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This worked...only thing I had to do was answer 'Y' to each member...
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We use a program from the CBT tape for this very thing.
Todd's original need has been satisfied for the moment, as he didn't
need to synchronize commands within a job stream. Even so, I prefer to
use the program, as differing security parameters at our installation
mean the IEFBR14 method
Can anybody get to this document? It keeps coming up as corrupted for
me.
Musta been around Chuckie too long. That would corrupt anybody.
Jon
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An early prototype of this sort of technology has been demonstrated at
the last few SHAREs.
z/VM Live Guest Migration:
Maybe by the last few, but certainly not by his whole body of posts.
Radoslaw is a good contributor, and a mainframe guy from way back. He
is in the position now, though, of trying to maximize price/performance
from a larger standpoint, and that means making decisions based on the
data at hand.
OK, that was my laugh-out-loud moment for the day.
Jon
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I work as a consultant these days.
I guess i am supposed to tell you things you already know :-))
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We still do that sort of thing. You know, wear a competing vendor's
polo shirt to a meeting, etc. It keeps things lively sometimes.
Jon
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When I was at Amdahl, the tech services manager of one of (the ???)
biggest Aussie customers had a pretty good collection of vendor mugs.
He made a
As part of a project here, I need to provide a Hardware Inventory for
one of our vendors. The description is Please include an inventory of
all hardware that includes the vendor, model, and feature code.
I thought I might be able to go to the HMC or the SE and print a listing
from there, but no
Thanks for the tip. I thought of that after John McKown sent his
suggestion. I'll have to see whether I can figure out how to get OS/2
to start up a web server.
Jon
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Plug a laptop or some such to your HMC/SE lan. Start the web server on
the HMC. Use the laptop to access anything you need
Yes, they do, but we don't have them. We do have TDMF, though.
Jon
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Innovation Software ( FDR ) has some slick products to do this.
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No, actually I'm looking to move one 3390-3 to one 3390-9. These
particular volumes are pretty much full and it's starting to cause us
application problems. The application in question has its own means of
parceling out which data sets go where. I would much prefer to move
these things a volume
I potentially have a need to move -- preferably on the fly -- some
volumes from 3390 model 3 to 3390 model 9 devices. I can use the
wonderful TDMF to move like-to-like volumes, and it seems to me that I
figured out a way to move mod-3s to mod-9s. Unfortunately, I can't
remember what I did, and I
I stated my question poorly. I know that I would user the REFVTOC
command to refresh the VTOC. What I don't remember is whether that is
what I used to accomplish this when I did it before. I'm not even
completely sure I did it successfully.
Thanks,
Jon
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ICKDSF's REFVTOC command?
/snip
Thanks, John. That's just the ticket.
Jon
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You can move a mod3 to a mod9 but not three mod3 to one mod9. You need
to
specify ICKDSF on your options statement if you do not have AUTOMATIC
ICKDSF=YES. TDMF will invoke ickdsf to refresh the vtoc to show the
increased capacity on the
I had considered that, but there are tons of data sets on these volumes,
some of which rarely get reorged.
The volumes aren't SMS-managed, so I can't use the pool method that
Lizette mentioned, either.
Jon
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I have another possibility that I have used when moving to new dasd.
Just
FWIW, I pretty much agree with you. I'm not terribly comfortable with
the Let it fail philosophy, though; I would feel obligated to try to
save the company/agency some pain if I could do it simply by pointing
out some potential red flags.
To address the OP, I would think the risks of not doing
We have a mystery that needs to be solved, and I am having trouble
coming up with a report that would help me do it. Here are the
particulars along with a couple of questions:
Our CPU usage had been trending upward -- as it generally does -- for
several weeks, when we finally started hitting the
Take a look at the type 30 records.
Ah, yes. That would be the section in the book on my desk with a
sticky-label bookmark . . . that says, Type 30 CPU. In my own
handwriting.
Heavy sigh Perhaps I should just give up now.
CBT file 529 (among others) has a program which can print a report
It has been a long time since I looked at it, but I don't think we can
use MXG. We don't have SAS, and isn't that an MXG requirement?
Thanks,
Jon
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When I've had to determine what job(s) have caused a large CPU increase
over an interval I've used the SMF type 30 interval records. If
Thanks for that information, Tom. I think I might start running it on a
full-time basis. I'll need to check the parms first, though.
Jon
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Jon,
FWIW, I always run RMFMON II. The overhead is minimal compared to when
I
use it, which is often.
YMMV,
Tom Conley
/snip
OK, thanks for that. I'm having vague memories (the only kind I have
any more) about going through this exercise before. I can't find any of
the jobs I had worked up, though; it may be that I didn't get any useful
information at the time. I'll see what I get, though.
Thanks,
Jon
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Yes.
Does the Internet receive still require cryptographic services?
Jon
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Thanks for the tip. I have avoided FROMNETWORK in the past since we
haven't configured cryptographic services, but I may give it a shot next
time.
Thanks,
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Do they have a Front Side Bus?
Jon
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I pass by streets tape drive and disk drive next to Storage Tech
near Boulder, CO.
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Chris has said (better than I could) what I was thinking. First stop
should be DB2.
Jon
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If the amount of data really is about the same then you have to look to
the organization of the data. For your input files; the block size may
have changed which could lead to an increase in CPU time,
To those of you who helped me with this problem earlier: thank you.
After a bout of illness, I resumed working on our transfer and
eventually -- with the help of the sysadmin at the server site -- got it
working.
Morals of the story:
1) Google is your friend, but he can be a confusing friend.
But he's still on 1.7, isn't he? I don't think TN3270 was required to
be split out until 1.8, was it? Or was it 1.7?
Jon
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I don't know what you are calling it, but you must be if you are using
TN3270. It is required as of z/OS 1.9. If it is falling into some
low
priority service
I wonder if you were battling tin whiskers. NASA had to deal with
those on some of their space-race spacecraft.
Jon
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We had a bunch of Amdahl 6280's that had a problem with a string of some
metallic substance that would grow (as a crystal) from the nameplate
down to the platter.
/snip
Good ideas on both counts. AIX is good stuff, and so is pSeries.
Jon
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Our new head of Open Systems is said to be an AIX
bigot. I've heard it said that he wants to replace as many Windows
servers (Intel) with AIX servers (pSeries) as possible. Well, it's a
start. I've also heard that he
WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency
which has formerly received a tape from us. They have set up an sftp
server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us
to use. I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux guest
hosted on our
For that matter, I have run (well, started, anyway) Tomcat under Unix on
z/OS using Dovetailed Technologies' JZOS. WebSphere not required.
Jon
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I've suggested to IBM they should do exactly that,
and in addition they should provide a port of
Apache and Tomcat (outside of WebSphere) to
I think it's Pity The Fool. It's a very dangerous op-code to attempt.
Not many people know that Mr. T moonlights as a hardware architect.
Jon
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Second, there was one mnemonic that caught my eye. I do not
know what it does, but it's probably one that none of us will
forget: PTF.
Here, for instance:
http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/msg/7941aee482af5b4
8?
Jon
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Lynn has answered that question a while ago. Check the archives. (His
or ibm-main's)
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Just to clarify this from my experimenting, SDB does not do the trick;
IEBGENER hurks up a hairball if you try this.
Thanks,
Jon
//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD DUMMY
//SYSUT1 DD PATH='/path/to/file.tar',FILEDATA=BINARY,
// DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=1,BLKSIZE=8000)
Thanks for the tips, folks. I think I'm going to switch to pax for now,
and I have downloaded omvstape to look at later.
By the way, there is a slight misprint in the 1.8 Unix commands manual.
To add parameters to dictate space allocation and such, the format is
something like this:
pax -W
Glen,
Thanks for this information. I don't think I have seen this any
place else.
Jon
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Unix tar files have a length that is a multiple
of 512. I would expect either RECFM=FB LRECL=512,
or RECFM=U and a block size some multiple of 512.
Each file stored in a tar file has a 512
I am trying to write out a Unix System Services file -- a tar archive --
to tape. For simplicity's sake, I was planning on using IEBGENER, but
I'm a bit confused as to what file characteristics to use for this.
Anybody out there have any sample JCL?
Thanks,
Jon
I am experimenting with mounting a Linux file system (RHEL 4, running
under zVM) on z/OS. I can get it to work, but it wants to use an
unsecured port (4005, I think it was). How can I get NFS on z/OS to use
a particular port? Is it a matter of setting it in the TCP/IP profile?
Is it a parm
The authors were discussing the use of Java as the students' *first*
programming language.
Anyway, I'm not so sure I hold to the it's just another language
mindset as much as I used to. It seems to me that there are important
differences between the way you conceive of and design a program in
From the first link below:
jfmiller call to our attention two professors emeritus of computer
science at New York University who have penned an article titled
Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of
Tomorrow? in which they berate their university, and others, for not
Instead of z/BASIC, it should be z/PLAIN.
Jon
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z/BASIC, z/DEVELOPER, z/BUSINESS, z/ENTERPRISE, and of course z/ULTIMATE
.
Keep in mind that I'm in the U.S.A. where we pronounce z as zee, not
zed. Also keep in mind the bad German accent in English movies where
zee is the.
/snip
Exactly.
Jon
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As in Boss! z/PLAIN, z/PLAIN!?
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Depending on how things go here in the next couple of years, either
Nessus or Laomedon.
Jon
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Any nominations? :-)
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No, they denied it. See here:
http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/index.html#slot7
Jon
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I don't know if it was a dig, but Arthur C. Clark and Stanley Kubrek did
admit HAL was based on IBM's name.
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Similarly to Bruno, we schedule everything from z/OS, except that we use
CA-Scheduler instead of TWS. As for the sysout, we just leave it on the
individual machine concerned and browse it there at need.
Jon
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We use TWS ( OPCPLEX) on our Z/os Sysplex with end to end feature , we
schedule
No, I'm going for the popcorn franchise for all those people watching
this play out.
Jon
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I think it is time to 'get tough' on this issue of
laptop mainframes. In the letter to Sam Palmisano
we should threaten a mass migration of mainframe
professionals over to 'Waffle Dinges.' (Will
I highly recommend In a Sunburned Country.
Jon
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Ironically, I was just talking about him a week or so ago. I bought his
book A Walk in the Woods about hiking the Appalachian Trail from
Georgia to Maine. A pretty good read but I hadn't heard the name in
years until now.
/snip
You have hit on a sore point with me. I'm still not sure why we have to
pay extra for IBMLink in the first place.
Jon
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So any chance on a refund from IBM, seeing that we're paying top dollars
for
something that hasn't been working for the past 4-5 days?
/snip
Part of agile programming is continuous testing as the product is
developed. This seems more fragile than agile.
Jon
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Welcome to the wonderful world of the Web and agile programming! Why
waste money paying for testers? Just release the product and the buyers
will become your unpaid QA
In the immortal words of Bill Cosby, Never challenge 'Worse.'
Jon
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that was me that said it couldn't possibly get any worse , okay, bad
mistake
on that one.
I apologize
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From the article Phil linked to:
As a rather poignant footnote, the Jersey Journal notes that the
Millars' house is fully decked out in anticipation of Halloween,
complete with a tiny plastic tombstone on their front lawn. Tony
Millar said the family will consider dedicating the tombstone to the
A couple of questions, to try to avoid the risk of entering a teaching
grandma to suck eggs scenario:
How do you upgrade z/OS or ISV software currently if you are only
running one image?
Do you have a Coupling Facility in this CEC?
FWIW, I can't see any advantages at all to going with
I hate to even think about the pain that might have caused.
Jon
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or the operator who put a future date at IPL time and really screwed
up RACF. (story I heard from another company)
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Another possible -- although perhaps a bit questionable --
benefit of multiple images is that it gives you another layer of control
over system resources allocated to your production work. WLM is a fine
thing, but it does have its gotchas; LPAR weighting can assure that the
production
It kinda depends on how your work is separated. We have a production
LPAR and a development/test LPAR. We IPL production and off it goes
whether test is up or not; there's no waiting for test.
Jon
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If you have one machine, and
it crashes or loses power, then your whole sysplex crashes,
Color me disbelieving.
snip
I think in the 30+ years I have been around OS360 and MVS and z/os,
there has never been an operator mistake of a typo.
/snip
Not buying this, either:
snip
I have seen operators make errors but the OS has caught all of
them and no harm was done.
/snip
Jan's
Part of your basic question -- will each of these do the job I
need -- can be out of the hands of the technical staff on-site. At
this shop, we run CA-Datacom, Model 204, and DB2 on the mainframe. We
don't run three DBMSes just for kicks, though.
Our decision, back in the 80's,
It's funny you should mention the provided utilities. IBM recently
(last year? The year before?) unbundled at least some of their
utilities from the base DBMS. You have to buy them separately now.
Jon
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Also, I believe that there are more DB2 and IMS utilities available than
there
are
Did you have a different answer than Allan's It depends, or were
simply taking the opportunity once again to take a potshot at someone
for no good reason?
Jon
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Summarized :
a) So you never worked with ADABAS in your life
b) You only worked with IMS and DB2 for 5 years... maybe as a user
. . . except that you haven't done anything to answer the original
question, from Itschak: I spoke few days ago with an ADABAS specialist
that claimed that ADABAS is
much faster and has low overhead compared to IMS and DB2. Is this true?
Radoslaw and Allan, among others, have actually attempted
Two excellent points. The first design decision mentioned -- re
resource accounting -- is helpful in many ways but makes this particular
comparison fairly difficult.
It is also worth noting -- and I think someone may have already
mentioned this -- that different DBMSes often perform well at
OK, for those who have (rightly) pointed out the problems with LOC as a
performance measure: what can we come up with that would be better? Ted
mentioned function points. Is there anything else? Measuring stuff is
a large part of our job; do we have any worthwhile metrics?
Jon
I wouldn't mind so much using the search function at ibm.com if:
a) You could get it to work without timing out most of the time;
b) You could filter the results better;
c) When you click on a search result link, you could actually get the
page referenced most of the time rather than the Link not
Here's one that I remember reading a while back:
http://www.cio.com/article/131500/Eight_of_the_Worst_Spreadsheet_Blunder
s
The article itself even has an amusing error in blunder #3, entitled
Fannie Mae Discovers $1.3 Billion Honest Mistake. They quote from PC
World:
'Fannie Mae, which
Which reminds me:
Wikipedia Celebrates 750 Years of American Independence!
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50902
It's a classic.
Jon
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Thats why I never go to Wikipedia to look something up. If anyone can
change it, how can you trust any of it?
/snip
Our HFS datasets are all currently SMS-managed and cataloged in the
master catalog. I'm thinking of moving them to a usercat to facilitate
OS upgrades. To judge by the IBM-MAIN archives, this seems like a
reasonable thing to do.
Are there any particular things I need to keep in mind when I do
It's only fair. I have dust the size of chips.
Jon
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I had a Java-based editor (jEdit, I think) loaded on my old PC that I
could use to edit files under z/OS. It was perfect for editing ASCII
files that needed to reside on OMVS.
Perhaps I'm odd, but I like both vi and OEDIT, at least to some degree.
NFS-mounting a z/OS file system is on my to-do
That is what I did. It worked fine.
snip
In fact, jEdit can be configured with an ftp plugin to edit files on
z/OS. It is a little tricky to setup, but works very cool, and
supports setting the encoding and line-terminators of the file.
/snip
Hmmm, never tried that. I don't do much in
Is there a version of DOS2UNIX that runs on z/OS Unix? I thought there
might be one on the Tools and Toys page, but it appears not.
Thanks,
Jon
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Thanks, John. The tr command seems to have worked. I don't have perl
installed yet.
Jon
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However, if you want to remove all 0x0D characters, even
those in the middle of a line, you can:
tr -d '\015' input.file output.file.without.x0d
If you have Perl installed, then this will do what I
Thanks for the tip. I haven't tried accessing OMVS from a telnet
session yet. When I do, I plan to give this a try.
Jon
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The following works for me:
#! /bin/sh
# DOS text to UNIX -- convert CRLF to LF
exec sed -e 's/^M$//' $@
... where ^M represents an actual 0x0d
Using normal 3270 access? I get FSUM9140 Terminal dumb has
insufficient capabilities for Curses.
Jon
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I don't understand. You don't have to wait for telnet.
You can do this under omvs directly.
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I went to a class once.
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I had the opposite experience. As a rookie I went to classes all the
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The IBMLINK/ServiceLink Web service was disrupted on July 30 and
31 for approximately 3 hours each day due to a Information Technology
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A couple of links for Linux documentation:
The Linux documentation project: www.tldp.org
The Linux-390 list archives:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/index.html
CentOS: http://www.centos.org/
CentOS is a re-creation of Red Hat Enterprise Linux from source, without
any of Red Hat's
Thanks for this reference, Lizette. I hadn't heard of that one.
I'm not interested in changing jobs, but it's nice to know that there is
a place to look for this sort of thing.
Jon
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My website of Choice for salary ranges is in SALARY.COM.
The wizard is free and seems fair in its
Thanks for the link, Dave. The one I had no longer worked.
Jon
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All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual
numbers
that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey,
but I can't find it.
I don't have
All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers
that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey,
but I can't find it.
Jon
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Maybe I'm a bit unusual, but I have always wanted to visit Poland.
Russia, too.
Jon
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Well, I was watching a Rick Steve's Europe show about Krakow and Warsaw
last night. They both look like nice cities to live in and I understand
that Poland is looking for mainframe expertise. Maybe it's
Of course, one of the downsides is that whole neuter thing.
Jon
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Oh Lindy I dont know - free board and lodging, someone to clean up after
you and cuddles whenever you want them and no other expectations at all.
Not even taxes. You'll be looked after until the end of your days (if
you
Egad, that's a stressful life. I don't think I could take that for very
long. My sympathy to you.
Jon
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. . . these days my working day starts at about 9am and finishes about
midnight.
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For my part, I stoop to concur.
Jon
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Famously, one may stoop to conquer;
You left out:
c) Amazingly good-looking, intelligent, and affable technical staff.
Jon
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It means Itanium is 4.3 times faster than AMD. I doubt it.
BTW: IMHO comparison of CPUs is senseless when we talk about *computer
speed*. What about I/O ?
I saw Hercules on PC, almost 40MIPS, but TSO
After a few years' experience, I have come to wonder whether it's even
possible to be too pedantic for this list.
Jon
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That also uses the term properly, since (as a trademarked term) it is an
adjective, not a noun. (But that may be getting too pedantic :-)
/snip
. . . and for those of you who -- like me -- were made curious by Shane's
remark, here is the minix3 URL: http://www.minix3.org/
From the site:
What hardware do I need to run MINIX 3?
You need an Intel 386 or higher with 4 MB of RAM, an IDE hard disk with100 MB
of free disk space, and an IDE
From horrid experience, I can recognize the 0F01C008 as a dubbing failure,
most likely a security problem, such as the lack of an OMVS segment (the 44 in
R1 supports this). As for finding the error codes, good luck. They are
harder to find than facts in a political speech.
Jon
Curious. On my production system, JES2 has used about 6 times the CPU as
JES2MON.
Jon
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Mark Zelden wrote:
Even in my sandbox it looks like this:
NET 5278.54
XCFAS 2947.96
WLM 2565.59
MIA 1887.83
GRS 1862.82
MII 1800.62
RMFGAT
The curious part was that I thought you were seeing JES2MON eating more CPU
than JES2 on your production system. Upon looking back, though, I see it was
your sandbox. That makes a lot more sense.
Jon
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Why curious? That would be more normal behavior. The monitor is looking
at things
It isn't just those pages. Just about every time I have gone to ibm.com for
any reason over the past week or so I have had problems retrieving pages. It
has been a source of great frustration for me. (Oddly enough, IBMLink is the
only thing I have found to be halfway reliable over that time
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