Re: Why is JCL so bad was Re: Basic question on passing JCL set symbol to proc

2010-01-04 Thread Clark Morris
On 4 Jan 2010 15:22:46 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: In a6d1k5hsqsjkmo5c9ues4h18tktqlta...@4ax.com, on 01/03/2010 at 11:28 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: JCL was designed for OS360 on a 256K real machine (the original design point for PCP was 64K). 256 KiB? We

Re: Why is JCL so bad?

2010-01-04 Thread Clark Morris
On 4 Jan 2010 12:08:58 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: JCL has been criticized by those who have not mastered it since the time of OS PCP. I've been using JCL since February 1981. I started in this business as a JCL jockey in Production Support for a Canadian Railway Company that

Re: Where have the control blocks gone?

2010-01-05 Thread Clark Morris
On 5 Jan 2010 07:17:48 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Mike Myers wrote: Steve: I do know that the formatter in IPCS (TCBEXIT IECDAFMT - at least I think that's the right exit - if not, then it's probably IECIOFMT) will display the DCB as a block of data, but does not format

Re: 360 programs on a z/10

2010-01-05 Thread Clark Morris
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:33:29 -0500, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com writes: Watson pushed S/360 out the door so fast partly because his product line was stale and competitors were gaining on him. Honeywell was 'stealing' his 1401 customers with their machine and

Re: Where have the control blocks gone?

2010-01-05 Thread Clark Morris
On 5 Jan 2010 09:54:17 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Clark Morris wrote: On 5 Jan 2010 07:17:48 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Mike Myers wrote: Steve: I do know that the formatter in IPCS (TCBEXIT IECDAFMT - at least I think that's the right exit

OT smart cards was Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-07 Thread Clark Morris
On 7 Jan 2010 12:27:09 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: The chip is not just data; it is a processor. All data exchanged between the card (ie. the chip) and the terminal is encrypted. Why can't their web-site say that? There's obviously a lot more to it than that but, right from

Re: Subject: Re: VTOC Fmt6

2010-01-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Jan 2010 16:21:08 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Rick of course you are quite correct. The newer portions of Z/os like OE and TCP/IP/COBOL are horrendously documented. How long ago did you last check, Ed, when you were working on IBM Mainframes 5 years ago? :-) Yes I know

Re: RACF Protection for Initiiators - JES2

2010-01-18 Thread Clark Morris
- we can't find the right pointer in the cbt tapes - would you direct us please- thanks While old, file 175 on the CBT tape - Philips Utilities from Clark Morris can give you a good start. There is an exit 6 that works on XA and I believe worked on ESA which takes the submitter, job card time

Re: IBM countersues Neon over zPrime accelerator

2010-02-03 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 Feb 2010 06:51:55 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I saw a roadshow this past summer and immediately came away with the implications to licensing. A small group of us also talked about what you do below, IBM changing the licensing or breaking the software. To me anyway, it's a

Re: PDS vs. PDSE

2010-02-10 Thread Clark Morris
On 10 Feb 2010 11:59:39 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: PDSEs have been available for a long time, and provide many advantages over PDSs. Why are people reluctant to use PDSEs? John Ehrman One of the things that I have against the PDSE is the same thing that I had against SNA attached

Re: Need Testers for Dataset Audit Facility (DAF) 1.4.9

2010-02-11 Thread Clark Morris
On 10 Feb 2010 23:19:42 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Greetings, In the DAF source, there is a list of DAF related APARs, most everything that you run into should be in there, including DAF assembly errors and DAF encountering invalid SMF data. Here is the list from the last few

Re: PDS vs. PDSE

2010-02-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 11 Feb 2010 20:44:37 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: No one seems to have pointed out that even for large members requiring more than 4 KiB there is more wasted space for PDSE than for a PDS: Since all space allocation is in 4KiB blocks, one should expect on average 50% of the last

Re: Assembler variable with @

2010-02-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Feb 2010 08:56:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I sometimes use a trailing @ (in a symbol's name) as a personal convention to indicate that the field contains an address. But as noted elsewhere, the Assembler treats the @ (and the $ and the #) no differently from an

Re: PDS vs. PDSE

2010-02-17 Thread Clark Morris
On 17 Feb 2010 05:39:17 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Bruce Hewson of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/17/2010 04:09:59 AM: Hello John, there have been many responses.some positive some negative...this is another negative I am sorry! 1.

Re: Fastest branch instruction

2010-02-17 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Feb 2010 10:10:22 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I know it's the one not taken!. But of the B, J, or BR, can they be ordered? I am 99.9% certain that having the branch address in a register is the fastest. But is it significant enough that I should dedicate a register for it?

Re: COBOL and DFSORT change?

2010-02-18 Thread Clark Morris
On 18 Feb 2010 12:22:33 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:48:04 -0500, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: snipAccording to the programmer, the job issued IGZ0026W after an ICE46A message and the program DID NOT abend and finished with a return

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Morris
On 20 Feb 2010 09:06:32 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 2/20/2010 11:41 AM, J R wrote: They wore lab coats? They were called MVS administrators? I was being facetious, but I get it - allow me to back-peddle. Sorry, I didn't mean to condescend. I'm just tired of

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-24 Thread Clark Morris
On 24 Feb 2010 14:53:28 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: In 4b80038c.1050...@gmail.com, on 02/20/2010 at 10:45 AM, Gabriel Tully gjtu...@gmail.com said: The days of the typical MVS administrator wearing a lab coat are over. No. They would have had tohaveto existed at some time in

Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure

2010-02-25 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Feb 2010 05:11:20 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I suspect he may have meant ORVYL, the interactive exuction companion to WYLBUR. We never ran it, so I don't know much about it. Did anyone use it other than Stanford? WYLBUR was used at University of Cincinnati in the mid 80's

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)

2010-02-25 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Feb 2010 11:12:51 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: OK, could we please drop all political discussions? Pretty please? With sugar on it? Or, if we're going to be nasty, then let's go after the Windows Weenies. How much of the problems with Windows in a commercial environment

Re: Item on TPF

2010-02-27 Thread Clark Morris
On 26 Feb 2010 17:59:33 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: IBM was about to sunset VSE a few years ago until it found out that in mainland China, VSE was the operating system of choice. Given their population, I don't think it will be disappearing anytime soon. And to think it all was

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Clark Morris
On 1 Mar 2010 06:03:06 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Let's keep the politics out of the Listserv discussions, because it'll get very ugly! -Original Message- From: Staller, Allan [mailto:allan.stal...@kbm1.com] Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 08:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: OT: need for SmartUser?

2010-03-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 1 Mar 2010 13:07:29 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 3/1/2010 2:24 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote: The flip side of this coin is that we who build the technical guts of products all too easily can become arrogant. If there weren't dumb end users, we developers would have much

Reason for condition code checking being the way it is was Re: Item on TPF

2010-03-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 1 Mar 2010 17:23:07 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I guess I should note that I am speaking only as an application developer. So I come at it from a different perspective than most of those on this list. But a few things I miss from VSE: - Superior JCL symbolics. - System level

Re: OT: need for SmartUser?

2010-03-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 1 Mar 2010 07:28:07 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Fast food restaurant chains have a lot of experience with successfully dumbing down the keyboard of their cash registers. You might try contacting the chief architect of cash register design for McDonald's:

Re: Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape

2010-03-31 Thread Clark Morris
On 31 Mar 2010 09:04:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Thanks, Rick. I was beginning to think that my post didn't hit the list, and I had figured it to raise more than a few hairs on the backs of heads. ;-) Anyway... Yes! I think (don't know at all, for sure, so this is just my

Re: Recommendations on download monitor

2010-03-31 Thread Clark Morris
On 30 Mar 2010 19:02:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Ken Brick wrote: On 31/03/2010 06:01 AM, Jon Brock wrote: Steve, How are you attached to the Net? I think (not sure, though) that some routers have built-in network monitoring capabilities, at least basic stats like

Re: Heads Up: APAR IO11698 - New SAF FACILITY class definition required for any SMP/E use

2010-04-07 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 Apr 2010 08:39:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:28:11 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: Of course in every case we should know the meaning of the profiles and I believe that the GIM.** profiles will be documented. It does not contradict

Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-09 Thread Clark Morris
On 9 Apr 2010 09:38:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:01:19 -0700, John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu wrote: Does the ICHRDSNT module have to be in a LNKLST'ed dataset? Or can it be in PLPA? As we document, it must be in a linklist library. There

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Apr 2010 05:57:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Our Windows and Network Brethren are still in the Chaos stage. But have to admit, Windows is finally getting some order (so they say); like being upward compatible. LOL IMO, Windows has never heard of upward compatability. I

Re: Heads Up: APAR IO11698 - New SAF FACILITY class definition required for any SMP/E use

2010-04-14 Thread Clark Morris
On 13 Apr 2010 15:36:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Heads Up: APAR IO11698 - New SAF

Re: Heads Up: APAR IO11698 - New SAF FACILITY class definition required for any SMP/E use

2010-04-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 14 Apr 2010 12:13:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:01:52 -0300 Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: :Also given the problem found with SMP/E, I would hope that IBM and :other vendors are checking to see if there are similar exposures in :other

OT chicken or egg first was Re: Heads Up: APAR I O11698 - N ew SAF FAC ILITY clas s definiti on require d for any SMP/E use?

2010-04-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Apr 2010 12:10:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Don Williams writes: | Chicken Little does not know which came first, the | chicken or the egg. From the egg's perspective, which is clearly the right one here, a chicken is only an egg's device for reproducing itself,

Re: Arithmetic on COBOL usage is pointer

2010-04-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Apr 2010 08:52:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 11:43 -0400, Walt Farrell wrote: Why would you want to do math on a pointer? One example: in a COBOL program I wrote awhile ago, I process SMF type-30 records. Those records contain segments whose offsets

Re: COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem

2010-04-21 Thread Clark Morris
On 21 Apr 2010 06:57:50 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: In a message dated 4/21/2010 8:25:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, m...@cartagena.com writes: Yesterday Canada's well-respected auditor-general released a report complaining that aging government computer systems could halt

Re: COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem

2010-04-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 21 Apr 2010 08:22:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Who cares whether the universities are requiring COBOL or not? There are plenty of places and ways to learn it, and any Programmer worth employing should be able to pick it up relatively easy. They may not be as good as a

Re: COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem

2010-04-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 22 Apr 2010 03:48:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:35:00 -0500, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: John, That WikiPedia article also states that DMSII was created by Burroughs (later UniSys) as a database to run on its processors. Does that

Re: COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem

2010-04-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 21 Apr 2010 07:35:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: John, That WikiPedia article also states that DMSII was created by Burroughs (later UniSys) as a database to run on its processors. Does that mean they are still running UniSys machines. If so they have problems over and above

Re: COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem

2010-04-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 22 Apr 2010 14:59:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 10:05:02 AM Subject: Re: COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem Considering how many different

Re: 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM

2010-04-27 Thread Clark Morris
On 27 Apr 2010 12:37:45 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: What about South Africa - how many new customers do you know? How many closed (migrated) mainframe shops do you know? What's the balance? Anywhere between 20 to 200

Re: 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM

2010-04-28 Thread Clark Morris
On 27 Apr 2010 19:32:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.cawrote: .Many of the applications currently running on z are in need of serious overhaul or replacement... Based on what? Do they work? If so, why do

Re: 25 rea sons why h ardware is still hot at IBM?

2010-04-28 Thread Clark Morris
On 28 Apr 2010 12:18:47 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: About mainframe business applications, Zman writes: | OK, but if they work, they're good enough. Sure, you | and I would be itching to 'fix' them, but that's an urge we | should resist. I disagree. My own experience of

Re: 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM

2010-04-28 Thread Clark Morris
On 28 Apr 2010 10:40:17 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.cawrote: Granted this is based on the applications that I worked on personally over the past 20 years but most of them were difficult to change, had

Re: ZFS

2010-04-28 Thread Clark Morris
On 28 Apr 2010 17:55:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Some people are. Other than on Hercules and similar as a hobby, where, on what and why? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martinez, Frank J Sent:

Re: 25 rea sons why h ardware is still hot at IBM?

2010-04-28 Thread Clark Morris
On 28 Apr 2010 14:01:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -snip-- What do the Linux machines provide? Web serving? Free donuts? Inquiring minds want to know!! Ask the various organizations that are making serious use of them. My

Re: ETR is down (hilarious resolution)

2010-04-29 Thread Clark Morris
On 29 Apr 2010 07:14:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: - Original Message - From: Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:50 AM Subject: ETR is down FYI, Getting internal error occurred trying to submit an

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic

2010-05-03 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 May 2010 11:42:47 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Mon, 3 May 2010 08:58:16 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: This might be of interest to those wanting to do floating point arithmetic. Please *NOTE* I do NOT know if this pertains to IBM or not. http://floating-point-gui.de/ Common

Re: Member name format for z/OS directory as simulated PDS?

2010-05-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 May 2010 16:53:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 6 May 2010 17:35, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010 17:14:07 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: JCL doesn't restrict the characters allowed in a DSNAME, as long as the DSNAME is quoted. But if it's quoted,

Re: (may o r may not be on topi c) Floatin g point ar ithmetic?

2010-05-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 May 2010 14:14:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: First, some terminological clarification: o BFP is IEEE-standard binary floating point; o DFP is IEEE-standard decimal floating point; and o HFP is IBM-standard hexadecimal floating point. To repeat myself now, both

Re: IBMLink and CA Support planned outages this weekend

2010-05-09 Thread Clark Morris
On 7 May 2010 15:32:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Quite a coincidence Planned IBMLink Outage - May 7 5 May 2010 This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage starting on Friday, May 7th at 9:00 PM Eastern Time through Saturday, May 8th at 9:00 AM Eastern

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 May 2010 16:12:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b9036ed...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 05/10/2010 at 01:13 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: I will not say these are mainframe, but I know they are being used: Subject to

Re: IBM to announce new MF's this year

2010-05-19 Thread Clark Morris
On 19 May 2010 06:17:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I remember much levity in my time at Amdahl and IBM's inability to build a machine that scaled past 10 (?) engines. We managed to skip past that o.k. - didn't have anything to do with limitations in the OS - all the relevant

Re: Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list

2010-05-20 Thread Clark Morris
On 20 May 2010 09:55:47 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: snip-- Countless other professionals did corresponding good work and as a direct consequence Y2K was not a disaster at all. One suspects that sections of the media were

Re: DFHSM Doc on when it resets the dataset changed flag(bit)

2010-05-21 Thread Clark Morris
On 21 May 2010 14:48:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I do have SETSYS INCREMENTALBACKUP(ORIGINAL) specified. I want HSM to be the product turning off the change bit. It seems that it is not doing this during the AUTOBACKUP cycle. I no longer run an AUTODUMP cycle. HSM really

What are the current Honeywell offerings was Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-26 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 May 2010 07:27:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: One of these days, for your sins, you will have to work in a (x86) little-endian world. Byte (pair) reversal will be visited upon you. Not just x86 -- Solaris, Apple, DEC, HP, Honeywell, etc. have models that are little-endian.

Re: (may or may not be on topic) Floating point arithmetic?

2010-05-31 Thread Clark Morris
standard, I am disheartened by the trends I see away from COBOL and have to doubt that my belief that things I would use to bring value to my employer or client (I'm now semi-retired) would be used in most shops. Clark Morris The reason for BFP in COBOL is to interoperate easily with Java and other

Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?

2010-06-06 Thread Clark Morris
the system? For security purposes are we better off with some kind of regulated hobbyist access to z/OS running under z/VM at data centers? Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?

2010-06-06 Thread Clark Morris
with on a dedicated system with no oversight. Of course criminal enterprises looking to make decent money on finding holes for profit may already have a z machine purchased or leased with the software through legitimate or less than legitimate channels. Clark Morris This brings to mind a thread

Re: APAR OA30338 for PDSE Users

2010-06-08 Thread Clark Morris
knock Microsoft Windows. Somehow the reliability and design of PDSE seems to be lacking. For starters it isn't even a superset of PDS when it comes to function because it can't be used for SYS1.NUCLEUS, SYS1.LINKLIB or SYS1.LPALIB. Clark Morris

Re: Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?

2010-06-08 Thread Clark Morris
On 7 Jun 2010 16:31:17 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -snip Well I hate to look like a solicitor, but, if there is anyone out there, particularly in the Houston area, with a multiprise (actually, any mainframe for that matter, I

Re: Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?

2010-06-09 Thread Clark Morris
of having your own system to explore vulnerabilities is that you don't get anyone's security people aroused when you probe. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: SAS is gone - long live ... ICETOOL?

2010-06-25 Thread Clark Morris
start. Clark Morris Moira -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm

Percentage of code executed that is user written was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-25 Thread Clark Morris
and tool use will be efficient enough. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http

COBOL for SMF Re: SAS is gone - long live ... ICETOOL?

2010-06-25 Thread Clark Morris
in the late 1980s). For most SMF mashing in batch that is a trivial concern. Clark Morris Vision (I knew it as DYL280) from CA also has been used as has Easytrieve. DYL is not a bad choice. Clark Morris rest snipped -- For IBM

Re: Percentage of code executed that is user written was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-25 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Jun 2010 15:59:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: snip--- My take is that most of the execution time of any given unit of work such as a job step or CICS transaction is spent executing system code

Re: Percentage of code executed that is user written was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-26 Thread Clark Morris
not be acceptable in a given environment. Clark Morris - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-27 Thread Clark Morris
not keep access to assembler expertise is playing with fire. Assembler can be largely self taught by looking at generated code from the HLL of choice although a course on Macros was helpful. Clark Morris The LM management Services callable from REXX are of course vendor supplied utilities probably

Re: Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-27 Thread Clark Morris
want to touch that code let alone things that get into locks so knowing your limitations is important. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: Taglines

2010-06-29 Thread Clark Morris
On 29 Jun 2010 13:20:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I love it and I am thinking of stealing it for use elsewhere A person of great taste! And, a sense of humour. I yam what I yam. And, that's all that I yam! I should resist but you're just a sweet potato. - I'm a SuperHero with

Re: Prevent ICF catalog out-of-space problems

2010-07-01 Thread Clark Morris
On 1 Jul 2010 08:27:02 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: af dc pisze: Hello, today we had problems on one catalog that tried to expand over 4GB that it was not EA. From your experience is there a way to prevent these out-of-space conditions ?? Env is z/Os V1.10 Yes, SPLIT THE

Re: Unix systems and Serialization mechanism

2010-07-02 Thread Clark Morris
on the JCL, OLD is assumed. And then if there isn't a shell interface to flock() (I don't know if there is one or not), that is a major difference between UNIX and z/OS. Actually, the default is (NEW,DELETE,DELETE) when no DISP is coded. This can lead to interesting results. Clark Morris

Re: ENQ question

2010-07-02 Thread Clark Morris
lengthy job step (a minute or more versus a fraction of a second) and minimize the time the ENQ was in force. Also this update step could be moved to the end of the job so all other enqueues were released. Clark Morris rest snipped -- gil

V|iruses was Re: OT completely..........

2010-07-02 Thread Clark Morris
. Remember the vulnerability can be in the browser, the web-server, or the email package. Clark Morris rest snipped -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: VSAM Max Lrecl?

2010-07-07 Thread Clark Morris
. Clark Morris In another post, I noted my reasons for choosing compression/compaction over segmentation techniques. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: IBM System z - A New Dimension in Computing webcast

2010-07-14 Thread Clark Morris
to bring them all and in the cloud bind them Apologies to JRRT Will there be a way to get the information at a later date since I will probably be out of town on that day? Clark Morris snip DATE: Thursday, July 22, 2010 TIME: 12:00 - 2:00 PM EDT LOCATION: Meet us virtually at http

Re: Missing data in SVC Dump

2010-07-14 Thread Clark Morris
correctly without having to do multiple invocations of IPCS or other tools. Clark Morris Good Luck Best Wishes / Mit freundlichem Gruß John Grimmette _ S o f t w a r e A G Global Information Services Mainframe-System-Programmierung Uhlandstr. 12 64297 Darmstadt Phone

EGL generation was Re: COBOL vs. Java

2010-07-16 Thread Clark Morris
(Cross System Product I think) and CSP version 4 generated horrific COBOL code this is an open question. Depending on the business and what the code is doing, there are a number of possibilities. Of course personally unless EGL is A LOT BETTER than CSP, I would want to ditch EGL. Clark Morris

Re: EGL generation was Re: COBOL vs. Java

2010-07-17 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Jul 2010 19:21:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 17:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: using Java would allow elimination of the licenses for COBOL and runtimes COBOL runtime generally speaking is called Language Environment, right? It's pretty much a

Re: AXR04 on z/OS 1.11

2010-07-21 Thread Clark Morris
CANCEL should not be a part of normal shutdown practice. Clark Morris -Marna WALLE z/OS System Install IBM Poughkeepsie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: AXR04 on z/OS 1.11

2010-07-21 Thread Clark Morris
On 21 Jul 2010 11:38:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 7/21/2010 1:25 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:59:19 -0300 Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: :While I am semi-retired (offer me a good contract and ...), I am :appalled

Re: AXR04 on z/OS 1.11

2010-07-21 Thread Clark Morris
On 21 Jul 2010 14:48:39 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Clark Morris wrote: ... If I understand other postings and from what I recall from 20 years ago when I was an active systems programmer, FORCE ARM was a last resort... FORCE is a last resort. FORCE ARM is how you cancel a non

Re: AXR04 on z/OS 1.11

2010-07-22 Thread Clark Morris
(a feature my phone company decided I needed). Clark Morris -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: Mainframe books

2010-07-24 Thread Clark Morris
OSMVT / MVS / OS390 / zOS differs substantially from either Windows or Unix/Linux of choice such a book could be useful in general. Clark Morris Regards, Michel Castelein z/OS instructor consultant Arcis Services http://www.arcis-services.net

Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's

2010-07-26 Thread Clark Morris
!! WAY TO GO IBM!!! Could Unix directories handle all of the functions of PDSE? When I read that we would still need PDSs, I wondered what pointy haired idiot designed the PDSE where one needed a started address space even to read it. Clark Morris Sheesh, Tom Conley

Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's

2010-07-27 Thread Clark Morris
and out of date to someone coming from a UNIX or Windows environment. Clark Morris Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's

2010-07-27 Thread Clark Morris
protected. Ops was not given the password. So in 40 yrs, the same design flaw has bit how many people/shops? But none of those should perceive a problem, since the behavior is documented. Just because a stupid design is documented doesn't make it any less stupid. Clark Morris -- gil

PDSs or libraries in other OSs was Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's

2010-07-29 Thread Clark Morris
something else. I know that VSE has/had libraries and I wouldn't be surprised if the OS400 and follow-on operating systems had similar constructs. I don't know anything about the BUNCH operating systems and their successors. I don't see anything comparable in either Unix/Linux or Windows. Clark Morris

Re: More FUD on the demise of the Mainframe

2010-08-05 Thread Clark Morris
participation I question the absolute need for a degree. The industry needs people who enjoy making certain the system is reliable and customizing it to meet the needs of the organization. Clark Morris

Re: SMF records for data set open/close

2010-08-05 Thread Clark Morris
and useless information. Clark Morris Tom Kelman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMF records for data set open/close

Re: More FUD on the demise of the Mainframe

2010-08-05 Thread Clark Morris
of their mainframes. Many organizations have consolidated data centers and reduced the number of mainframes owned by the organization. Most of the shops in the Maritime provinces of Canada that ran mainframes are no longer doing so. From what I see on this forum, the market is shrinking. Clark Morris Groete

Re: API or visibility into PR/SM for Vendor-written programs?

2010-08-18 Thread Clark Morris
to be proprietary and non-published. From a security point of view I would hope that it would be impossible for one LPAR to know about another LPAR except through the sysplex mechanism and security package protected shared dasd. I would be wary of even read access. Clark Morris Certainly not a good idea

Re: O/T Stupid Data Center tricks

2010-08-29 Thread Clark Morris
On 27 Aug 2010 13:43:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: --snip I still have horrible memories of a CEO that ordered me to develop and install, via ZAP, the multiple-level alias feature two years before IBM provided

Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-08-31 Thread Clark Morris
things without success. If we can be prompted on a delete, why can't we have an installation or user setting that prompts us every time ISPF insists on turning on or off something line NUM, CAPS or RECOVERY? Clark Morris -CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Clark Morris
Bank of Canada being fouled up for about 3 days with everybody's bank accounts being only sometimes accessible. I was afflicted by this one. There also are some fiascos that real-time backup won't guard against. Clark Morris Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Clark Morris
. Getting things straightened out can be interesting. Been there, got the clients respect for being someone who had good ideas on how to fix things. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Clark Morris
than amateur hour. Probably executed by the legal and purchasing departments with little input from the auditors and technical staff. Also many companies don't understand backup and recovery. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Clark Morris
that can take much time to fix. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Clark Morris
by the failure of the mirroring device. If this is the case, what are the probabilities of the same thing on IBM devices regardless of the operating system? Clark Morris Regards, Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com where information lives It is wise to keep in mind

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Clark Morris
for that matter). And a backup program will blithely copy bad data to the backup mechanism. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-05 Thread Clark Morris
is a follower of transportation issues (and a member of Transport Action Atlantic), I doubt a reporter would be able to determine easily which side of an argument is flat out wrong, even with some hours of research. Clark Morris

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