Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2055c4ebc2b05442853ca436c40652851d87a...@nwb-exchange.microfocus.com, on 08/11/2011 at 02:38 PM, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@microfocus.com said: So when the job deck is read and IEFUJV is called, Those are two different points in time, and in two different address spaces. So when the job

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-11 Thread Robin Atwood
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chicklon, Thomas Sent: 10 August 2011 16:57 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? IEFUJV can do everything, and the TSO submit exit would not be necessary

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1228402832218791.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on 08/10/2011 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: What can be done in IKJEFF10 that couldn't equally well be done in IEFUJV? Issue a TPUT[1] to the user, or anything else that is dependent on a TSO environment. Can

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-10 Thread Robin Atwood
Thanks to everybody for all the suggestions, it looks like IEFUJV or the JESJOBS profile is the best way forward, I will see what the customer thinks. Cheers -Robin -- Robin Atwood Communications Technology Micro Focus The Lawn, 22-30 Old Bath Road Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 1QN, UK Direct: +44

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:27:31 -0500, Williamson, James R wrote: IKJEFF10 Customizing how users submit jobs and process the output http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.ikjb400/ikj4b4a0211.htm -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-10 Thread Scott Rowe
Two what? There is one TSO submit exit (IKJEFF10), and one job verification exit (IEFUJV). These two exit points were created for different purposes and functions. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:27:31 -0500, Williamson, James

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:25:37 -0400, Scott Rowe wrote: Two what? There is one TSO submit exit (IKJEFF10), and one job verification exit (IEFUJV). These two exit points were created for different purposes and functions. What can be done in IKJEFF10 that couldn't equally well be done in IEFUJV?

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-10 Thread Chicklon, Thomas
for a number of reasons before the job is failed by UJV. Tom Chicklon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Enforcing job name conventions

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-10 Thread Scott Rowe
IKJEFF10 gets control as the JCL is being submitted (via the SUBMIT command), and it has access to all the TSO control blocks, so it can supply jobcard info, etc. IEFUJV does not get control until the job is actually selected by the initiator, and has no access to the TSO environment. On Wed,

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-10 Thread Wayne Driscoll
...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 08/10/2011 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:25:37 -0400, Scott Rowe wrote: Two what? There is one TSO submit exit (IKJEFF10), and one job

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-10 Thread McKown, John
Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? On Wed

Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Robin Atwood
From: Robin Atwood Sent: 09 August 2011 15:08 To: 'IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu' Subject: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? We have a requirement that any job submitted to JES2 must have its jobname starting with the userid, like the standard TSO submit command behaviour. I recall

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:18:11 +0100, Robin Atwood wrote: We have a requirement that any job submitted to JES2 must have its jobname starting with the userid, ... Why? There are more meaningful uses for the scant 8 characters allowed, given that the userid is available elsewhere in the spool

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Robin Atwood
Very likely, but the requirement is for a bank and..., well, who knows? :) -Robin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 09 August 2011 15:49 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Enforcing job name

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Williamson, James R
Of Robin Atwood Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? From: Robin Atwood Sent: 09 August 2011 15:08 To: 'IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu' Subject: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? We have a requirement that any job

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Robin Atwood
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? IKJEFF10 Customizing how users submit jobs and process the output http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com. ibm.zos.r11.ikjb400/ikj4b4a0211.htm -Original Message

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Ed Gould
I used IEFUJV. It also let me enforce other installation standards as well. We had strict job naming standards and this was a great way to do so. The code was trivial. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread McKown, John
: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? Thanks but the requirement is for jobs submitted via any internal reader, which why I was wondering if there was a convenient JES2 exit. -Robin -Original Message- From

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Grinsell, Don
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? IEFUJV is rather easy. SYS1.SAMPLIB(SMFEXITS) has an example. JES2 exit 2 can do this. As could exits 6 or 20, but with more difficulty. Personally, I'd go with IEFUJV. Jes2: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread McKown, John
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Grinsell, Don Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? You could also look at what controls you can implement in your security software...rather than writing

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Jack Schudel
besides just job name checking. /jack - Original Message - From: Robin Atwood robin.atw...@microfocus.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:18 AM Subject: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? From: Robin Atwood Sent: 09

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread R.S.
Why not to use RACF controls, JESJOBS class? It provides quite useful control of jobnames, execution userids, etc. BTW, caution: there are (in general) two kind of JESJOBS profiles: SUBMIT.nodename.jobname.userid CANCEL.nodename.userid.jobname SUBMIT profiles work as expected and are very

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 8/9/2011 11:27 AM, Williamson, James R wrote: IKJEFF10 Customizing how users submit jobs and process the output As the OP pointed out, the request was for a general solution, not just from a TSO SUBMIT. And you might be astonished at how many installations write elaborate code for this

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Why would you want to enforce such a ridiculious restriction? :-( From: Robin Atwood robin.atw...@microfocus.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 8:18 AM Subject: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit? From: Robin Atwood Sent: 09 August 2011 15:08 To: 'IBM-MAIN

Re: Enforcing job name conventions - which exit?

2011-08-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 64819e7175d9f54398a14fdea6a731e3012d1...@emo-exmb-m-404.main.ads.uscg.mil, on 08/09/2011 at 10:27 AM, Williamson, James R james.r.william...@uscg.mil said: IKJEFF10 That's TSO. The OP was asking about enforcing it for jobs not submitted via the TSO SUBMIT command. -- Shmuel