Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In f255efe0ecf08c4a9c1db6aff42354170ea81...@ch2wpmail1.na.ds.ussco.com, on 03/02/2010 at 06:51 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said: IIRC, it wasn't called Warp until v4.. For small values of 4. The shrinkwrap sequence ran 2.1, Warp 3, Warp Connect, Warp 4. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4b8d1cbe.4080...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 03/02/2010 at 03:12 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: However I absolutely don't remember any BLUE screen on OS/2, Would you settle for a blue box? ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-03 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Hello all, I have two machines with OS/2 V 3 still running, and it is not called WARP, but there was a version V3 already called WARP, too, AFAIK. (The machines are from 1997 and 1999, by the way, and they still have the original IBM SCSI drives, no problems so far). The blue screen is not

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-02 Thread Peter Nuttall
To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe ... I think you would be surprised how many sites are still running old hardware and software. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-02 Thread R.S.
Peter Nuttall pisze: Slightly OT, but I was in Rome a few weekends ago (to watch England vs Italy Rugby match) and we tried to get train tickets from the airport to the City ... The automatic machine we were using froze and then gave us the Blue Screen of Death It then rebooted itself and

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-02 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Nuttall Slightly OT, but I was in Rome a few weekends ago (to watch England vs Italy Rugby match) and we tried to get train tickets from the airport to the City ... The automatic machine we were using froze

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-02 Thread Richards, Robert B.
, 2010 7:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Nuttall Slightly OT, but I was in Rome a few weekends ago (to watch England vs Italy Rugby match) and we

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-02 Thread R.S.
Richards, Robert B. pisze: John, I had heart bypass...what's your excuse? :-) You remember incorrectly, unless this Wiki entry is wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2 AFAIR Warp was used for v3. However I absolutely don't remember any BLUE screen on OS/2, except some screensaver. I

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-02 Thread William Donzelli
There are actually sites still running 4381's and MVS/XA.  I converted two of them (MVS/XA and MVS/ESA) over to a z/9 and z/10 just last year and we have been contacted by sites still running 967x's and Multiprise systems that have yet to convert. I would be interested in getting some of this

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. subject of thread from last year (in this mailing list): Secret Service plans IT reboot

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-secret-service-outdated-computer-mainf rame-system-1980s/story?id=9945663 /snip And how many Dem budget cuts prevented a more timely upgrade?

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe snip Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-secret-service-outdated-computer-mainf rame-system-1980s/story?id=9945663 /snip And how many Dem budget

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Lance D. Jackson
Let's keep the politics out of the Listserv discussions, because it'll get very ugly! -Original Message- From: Staller, Allan [mailto:allan.stal...@kbm1.com] Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 08:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Scott Rowe
Keep your silly political wise cracks to yourself, that is not appropriate here. Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com 3/1/2010 8:42 AM snip Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-secret-service-outdated-computer-mainf

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Finley, Frank
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe snip Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet? http

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Clark Morris
Subject: Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet?http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-secret-service-outdated-computer-mainframe-system-1980s/story?id=9945663And how many Dem budget cuts prevented a more timely upgrade

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
there was something about after (7 years ago today), secret service was absorbed into dept. homeland security ... something like 1/3rd of secret service budget found its way elsewhere. -- 42yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Thomas Kern
I would be interested in finding out what the real hardware and opsys is that these reporters are so disdainful of. And it would be fun for a community of reasonable experts in computing (IBM-MAIN, IBMVM, etc) to review and critique the modernization plans. Are they going to a z10? Windows 2003?

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-03-01 Thread Brian Westerman
I think you would be surprised how many sites are still running old hardware and software. Not counting the people still running ESA and OS/390 under VM on a z/800 or brand new z/9 or z/10. There are actually sites still running 4381's and MVS/XA. I converted two of them (MVS/XA and MVS/ESA)

More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-02-27 Thread zMan
Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-secret-service-outdated-computer-mainframe-system-1980s/story?id=9945663 -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-02-27 Thread Rich Smrcina
On 02/27/2010 08:19 AM, zMan wrote: Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-secret-service-outdated-computer-mainframe-system-1980s/story?id=9945663 9370 is probably giving it too much credit. And the standard is 98%? Sad. When I had

Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe

2010-02-27 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 9:19 AM Subject: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet? My guess would be a 9672 running