Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-28 Thread Kris Buelens
I was part of a Redbook team about Java on CMS: SG24-5148, VM/ESA *Network Computing with Java and NetRexx* - April 1998 (I still have a LIST3820 of it and the tools we wrote for it, BFSLIST for example). As I thought that most of the public for this redbook would be VMers, the book became more of

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-28 Thread John P. Hartmann
Barton, you overlook the lack of IEEE floating point in the hardware in those days. On 28 September 2010 04:08, Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com wrote:

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-28 Thread Barton Robinson
Right, so even better chance that java on cms would be more than acceptable. Too bad there's no business case. John P. Hartmann wrote: Barton, you overlook the lack of IEEE floating point in the hardware in those days. On 28 September 2010 04:08, Barton Robinson

How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Jeff Gribbin
Academic question that does not appear to be answered in Principles of Operation - can anyone help? Principles of Operation doesn't seem to mention how a program (operating system), 'reads' the loadparm - and CP Commands and Utilities (IPL comman d) isn't very helpful either ... snip The load

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Robert Payne
Interesting question that now has my curiosity up. Before I never cared enough to wonder about it. Are you talking about a virtual IPL ? or maybe the real IPL of VM ? Does it really matter ? My first guess is that the LOADPARM data is stored in low memory and a register is passed to the OS

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Mike Walter
HCLSAL is indeed provided and maintained with source code (ASSEMBLE), on MAINT's 194 disk. It obtains the LOADPARM from a call to HCPGLPRM (HCPGLP), for which source code is not readily available. It is possible that if one spent the time (on my To Do list) to download the Restricted Source

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/28/2010 at 09:49 EDT, Jeff Gribbin jeff.grib...@gmail.com wrote: Academic question that does not appear to be answered in Principles of Operation - can anyone help? Principles of Operation doesn't seem to mention how a program (operating system), 'reads' the loadparm - and CP

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/28/2010 at 10:07 EDT, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: HCLSAL is indeed provided and maintained with source code (ASSEMBLE), on MAINT's 194 disk. It obtains the LOADPARM from a call to HCPGLPRM (HCPGLP), for which source code is not readily available. It is

CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, October 28, 2010

2010-09-28 Thread Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts
The fourth quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, October 28, 2010. We are scheduled to meet in room M2 off the cafeteria, it is right next to room M3 where we frequently meet. NOTE: We have a very full agenda for this meeting, and we will

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Jeff Gribbin
Mike, It falls into the category of, 'Just curious'. I suspect that along with you and many (most?) others on this list I'm from a generation that's allergic to, 'smoke and mirrors'. I'd always assumed that the answer was simple, obvious and documented in Principles of Operation. I had occasion

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Jeff Gribbin
It is obtained using a mechanism that is not published beyond its use in Linux.  The best you can do is RTFC, and it is not a trivial process. Alan Altmark Thankyou, Alan, for a definitive reply. What a strange thing to keep secret! Regards Jeff

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Neale Ferguson
It uses the SERVC opcode which does things like read/write to the HMC, set masks to enable/disable signals like powerdown (how Linux intercepts the signal shutdown command), get loadparm, get configuration information etc. While some of the function is generic, I believe some is model specific.

z/VM 5.4 RSU 1002

2010-09-28 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
q cplevel z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 1002 (64-bit) Generated at 09/16/10 07:14:22 CDT IPL at 09/28/10 07:45:54 CDT Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:19:58 q cmslevel

Re: z/VM 5.4 RSU 1002

2010-09-28 Thread Tom Huegel
Probably since CMS only shows the right three digits. Maybe RSU 1101 fill fix that... On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.comwrote: q cplevel z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 1002 (64-bit) Generated at 09/16/10 07:14:22 CDT IPL at 09/28/10

Re: z/VM 5.4 RSU 1002

2010-09-28 Thread Dave Jones
Frank, I've applied RSU 1002 to my z/VM 5.4 and CMS does report the service level to be 002 On 09/28/2010 11:21 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: q cplevel z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 1002 (64-bit) Generated at 09/16/10 07:14:22 CDT

z/VM 5.4 RSU Level For z/196 support

2010-09-28 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
I have ordered the 2 APAR's, VM64879 and VM64881, and the prereq's for the z196 support for z/VM 5.4 But I noticed that my RSU level is only 0802 for both CP and CMS. What is the latest RSU level and should I just order and apply the latest RSU instead of trying to apply these APARs to this

RMS Errors

2010-09-28 Thread KEETON Dave * SDC
I wanted to post this to the list before opening an ETR with IBM. I have a 2nd-level 5.4 system I'm trying to set with DFSMS/VM's RMS component to talk to a virtual tape library. The drives are DEDICATED through the USER DIRECT entry. The system can SEE the drives as Tape drives when the devices

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:11:22 +0100, Jeff Gribbin jeff.grib...@gmail.com wrote: It is obtained using a mechanism that is not published beyond its use in Linux.  The best you can do is RTFC, and it is not a trivial process . Alan Altmark Thankyou, Alan, for a definitive reply. What a

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Dave Jones
Look here, Brian: http://homerow.net/zlinux/ On 09/28/2010 12:18 PM, Brian Nielsen wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:11:22 +0100, Jeff Gribbin jeff.grib...@gmail.com wrote: It is obtained using a mechanism that is not published beyond its use in Linux. The best you can do is RTFC, and it is

Re: z/VM 5.4 RSU Level For z/196 support

2010-09-28 Thread Dave Jones
George, the current level of z/VM 5.4 maintenance is RSU 1002I'd order and install that first before I did anything with the two APARs. On 09/28/2010 11:50 AM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote: I have ordered the 2 APAR's, VM64879 and VM64881, and the prereq's for the z196 support for z/VM 5.4

Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello List, We are running here : z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 0903 (64-bit) , ant We have a new mission here, that is deploy the RMS (Removable media services). We already look some documentation, and don't k now the better way to

Re: RMS Errors

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Pace
In the USER DIRECT STDEVOPT LIBRARY CTL On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:17 PM, KEETON Dave * SDC dave.kee...@state.or.uswrote: I wanted to post this to the list before opening an ETR with IBM. I have a 2nd-level 5.4 system I'm trying to set with DFSMS/VM's RMS component to talk to a virtual

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Pace
That's a pretty broad request. There are DFSMSRM commands to mount tapes. You might user VM Tape Manager in conjunction with DFSMS/RMM to get a complete solution to managing volumes in the library. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Sergio Lima sergiovm...@hotmail.comwrote: Hello List, We

Re: RMS Errors

2010-09-28 Thread KEETON Dave * SDC
Thank you, Mark! I had the entry in the RMSMASTR on 2nd-level, but did not realize I'd need it defined in the 2nd-level guest itself. The errors are gone now. Regards, Dave From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/28/2010 at 01:25 EDT, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: Look here, Brian: http://homerow.net/zlinux/ Dave, those updates deal only with the PARM, not the LOADPARM. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello Mark, The VM Tape Manager is a product? Thanks, Sergio Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:36:51 -0400 From: pacemainl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU That's a pretty broad request. There are DFSMSRM commands to mount tapes.

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Pace
Yes - From IBM Tape Manager for z/VM 5697-J08 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Sergio Lima sergiovm...@hotmail.comwrote: Hello Mark, The VM Tape Manager is a product? Thanks, Sergio -- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:36:51 -0400 From: pacemainl...@gmail.com

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Dave Jones
aHHthanks for the clarification, Alan.I didn't actually look at the code, but since he seemed to be keying off of a LOAPARM vm specification, I thought that he must have a way of getting the LOADPARM value somehow. Have a good one. On 09/28/2010 12:57 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday,

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Sergio Lima
Mark, Excuse the lack of knowledge, but RMS run without this product (Tape Manager) ? Thanks again, Sergio Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:10:16 -0400 From: pacemainl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Yes - From IBM Tape Manager for

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Neale Ferguson
Some light reading regarding SERVC (but LOADPARM in particular): http://www.docstoc.com/docs/55135658/Method-And-System-For-Providing-A-Hardware-Machine-Function-In-A-Protected-Virtual-Machine---Patent-6681238 http://www.patentmine.com/grant/06253224_desc.html

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Brian Nielsen
It's in the multiple configuration boot support link: http://homerow.net/zlinux/multiboot/ The multiboot-03.077.diff file has what you need in it. Look for the cod e labeled Retrieve Load Parm. Brian Nielsen On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:11:46 -0500, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote:

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Mike Walter
I'm not saying it's perfect mind you, but it has grown over the years and is just what we need as sysprogs. YMMV. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. * Prolog; See Epilog for additional information * Exec Name

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Not what you asked, but here is the source code for the boot strap loader in 3CARD LOADER. It's kind of fun to look at. And quite beautiful in its own right. http://lilliana.eu/downloads/3card.loader.txt Lindy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: ICKDSF - can it format/label cyl 0 on a 3390-A (EAV)??

2010-09-28 Thread Steve Wilkins
Look for ICKDSF APAR PK56092.

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Mike Walter
Or, add directory entries for those (and other DASD you wish) to the CP Directory such as: USER -540RES- 64M 1G G 64 *UI=Server, Disaster Recovery supportGRP=IS * MDISK A00 3390 0001 540RES R MDISK F00 3390 END 540RES R Every DASD we have (other than spares

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:11:41 -0400, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: If I am DDR copying 540RES, 540W01, 540W02 to another set of disks I believe I will need to cprelease the CPOWNED volumes to do the DDR. But that will impact Level 1. I suppose I could invoke DDR

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Ron Schmiedge
George, Not necessary. MAINT usually has full-volume MDISK defined for 540RES, 540W01 and 540W02 (MAINT's 123, 124, and 125 disks). You can DDR those volumes without touching the CPOWN list. If you aren't doing it from MAINT, a R/O link to MAINT 123 gives you access to 540RES. Those definitions

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
ty, Ron, Brian, Mike, John: I have them defined in MAINT, so I am good to go. Ron Schmiedge ron.schmie...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 09/28/2010 03:21 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability)
You need the Service Machines DFSMS the Maintenance ID, and RMSMASTR at a Minimum to interface to the IBM Tape Library. IBM and Computer Associates (CA) offer Service Machines to manage tape Libraries, and Mounting tapes in the background for user requests. Larry Davis From: The IBM z/VM

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Sergio Lima
Larry and Mark, Thanks very much from your help about this question. We already spoke here with IBM for see if have the Tape Manager product, because not sure, and this is new for us. Regards, Sergio Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:26:40 + From: larry.dav...@hp.com Subject: Re:

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Sergio Lima
Larry and Mark, Thanks very much from your help about this question. We already spoke here with IBM for see if have the Tape Manager product, because not sure, and this is new for us. Regards, Sergio Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:26:40 + From: larry.dav...@hp.com Subject: Re:

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Actually it's Leland Lucius and he's at homerow.net (has a website as well). Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:19 PM To:

Re: How is LOADPARM obtained?

2010-09-28 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Hmmmfrom the website: Multiple Configuration Boot Support The multiboot patch adds the ability to IPL different configurations from the same device using the LOADPARM parameter on VMs IPL command or the Load Parameter field on the Hardware Management Console. It is especially useful when

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Oh, LINK to MAINT's 123, 124, 125, ... Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 2:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Applying Maintenance -

RACF DSMON

2010-09-28 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi I am trying to get RACF DSMON reports for our Auditors. I am following the RACF Security Auditor's Guide and do not seem to be getting the reports. I am receiving this. 200 is my Primary RACF Data base and 300 is the backup RACF data Base. DMSACC723I R (0200) R/W - OS DMSACC723I Q

Re: RACF DSMON

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/28/2010 at 04:11 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: CSTSET001I CMS SUB-TASKING SUPERVISOR INITIALIZED. CSTINT003I INITIATOR ACTIVATED. RPISMF050E Syntax error in SMF control card RPISMF054I SMF recording not started You have an error in

Re: RACF DSMON

2010-09-28 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Alan, We are not sharing the RACF data base. And the pack that the RACDSMON is backing up the RACF DB on is the same size what they are currently on. I will check on the SMF CONTROL FILE Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Edward M Martin
Hello George, Yes as long as your 2nd level machine has the disk attached to it. Now the usual warning that you are running with two sets of CP labeled disks. If anything happens that cause you to Reipl z/VM you could have some issues. Look back at the archives and you will find how

DFSMS master not running - What is missing ?

2010-09-28 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello List, We found here, how give commands for DFSMS / VM. Then, after link the MINIDISK necessary, and gove the command : DFSMS QUERY REQUESTS Receive the message: DGTUDD2014E DFSMS master not running The help of this message say : MSG DGTUDD2014E All Help

Re: DFSMS master not running - What is missing ?

2010-09-28 Thread Sterling James
I don't think you need DFSMS master running if you are just using RMS. Try; DFSMSRM Query REQuests HELP DFSMSRM will give some information. Thx - Please consider the environment before printing this email and any attachments. This e-mail and any

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Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Mike Walter
You can LINK to MAINT's 123, 124, and 125 as long as you have not deleted them from the directory after the installation is complete. I do. Once long ago, some IBM product EXEC (installation or service, I do not remember the details any longer) summarily and without any notice ahead of time

Re: DFSMS master not running - What is missing ?

2010-09-28 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello, Thanks very much, Now, the command run, but have a authorization problem, DFSMSRM Query REQuests DGTUDR2016E User not authorized to issue this command I will see where do this, Thanks again, and Best Regards, Sergio Date:

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Brian Nielsen
Having 2 Page and 2 Spool is small enough that it's extremely reasonable to make that much available to your 2nd level test system. SPOOL is all or nothing when DDRing them. Copy them both whenever you want to be sure your 2nd level test system has current versions of what i s in 1st level

Re: DFSMS master not running - What is missing ?

2010-09-28 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability)
make sure the ID is in the DGTVAUTH DATA file in the VMSYS:DFSMS.CONTROL. directory Larry Davis From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Sergio Lima Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:41 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DFSMS master not

Re: z/VM 5.4 RSU Level For z/196 support

2010-09-28 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
I thought VM64879 was only for z/VM 6.1 and the other 2 were for z/VM5.4. All three APARs, VM64798, VN64879, and VM64881 are applicable to both z/VM 5.4 and 6.1. Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development

Re: z/VM 5.4 RSU Level For z/196 support

2010-09-28 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
tyvm Les Geer (607-429-3580) g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 09/28/2010 07:28 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 5.4 RSU Level For z/196 support

Re: Question about DFSMS/VM - RMS

2010-09-28 Thread Tracy Dean
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:58:07 +0300, Sergio Lima sergiovm...@hotmail.com wrote: We already spoke here with IBM for see if have the Tape Manager product, because not sure, and this is new for us. I am the IBM product manager for Tape Manager for z/VM. Let me know if y ou have any questions

Re: z/VM 5.4 RSU 1002

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Ackerman
HELP says: Responses The format of the response is: CMS Level nn, Service Level nnn I guess the 'nnn' must mean it is 3 digits. To my memory, it has always b een 3 digits. Alan Ackerman On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:21:06 -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife .com wrote: q cplevel

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Ackerman
Unfortunately, if you find the old CMS JAVA, I'm sure it will NOT use IEE E floating point. A decent CMS Java Virtual Machine with a JIT would perhaps run very well. But who is going to write it? It's not going to come from Sun/Oracle. Sun doesn't even provide one for the M acintosh -- Apple

Re: Virtualizing a z10

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Ackerman
Our Capacity Planning folks reported that the upgrading from the z9 to th en z10 saved the bank beaucoup bucks. I think the same thing will happen going from z10 to z196 . Did IBM raise the price of the entry-level machines? That might explain t he difference in our viewpoints. We are still

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/28/2010 at 04:35 EDT, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: Can I bring up z/VM Level 2 wiith the same cloned volser's, directory, and CF parm disks as z/VM Level 1 as long as I point to the cloned 540RES and FORCE start when I IPL? I have DDRed my

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