[ilugd] apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all, finally! the exciting news and development i've been waiting to see happen, all through 2008. will the story of the pc versus mac, and the macOS versus windowsOS, repeat all over again? despite cutting my teeth on apple and macs, i am all for android. here is a first heads-up that

[ilugd] Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] OpenStreetMap contemplates licensing [LWN.net]

2008-10-24 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
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Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread swapnil . bhartiya
finally! the exciting news and development i've been waiting to see happen, all through 2008. will the story of the pc versus mac, and the macOS versus windowsOS, repeat all over again? Can't say for sure. despite cutting my teeth on apple and macs, i am all for android. here is a

[ilugd] Apple a bigger threat than Microsoft (was) Re: apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Friday 24 October 2008 14:00:23 Linux Lingam wrote: a closed proprietary paradigm won't make a digital handheld in the age of freedom. apple hubris all over again. except this time, the world has learnt its lessons even if apple hasn't. thus we'll be wary of microsoft-like predatory

Re: [ilugd] Apple a bigger threat than Microsoft (was) Re: apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 24 Oct 2008, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] So the only argument left to fight about against Apple is the philosophical angle, one that has always been the toughest to get across. You have only the philosophical angle if you restrict yourself to FSF's views. If you take the

[ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv

2008-10-24 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all, for those who missed the stimulating sessions with yves degoyon of giss.tv, have just jotted down my impressions here, posted with his photos: http://niyam.com/blog/gnulinux/2008/kiss-your-tv-goodbye/ -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist

Re: [ilugd] Apple a bigger threat than Microsoft (was) Re: apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Linux Lingam
[snip] well, i don't understand why the subject-line had to be changed. it's all relevant. secondly, we all tend to forget the mac hardware is an excellent device on which to run debian and especially ubuntu. that's what you see most people do at foss conferences. great and well-engineered

Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread shantanu goel
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my conclusion: the human hand was designed to also unclench its fist, open its palm, and give and receive. a closed proprietary paradigm won't make a digital handheld in the age of freedom. apple hubris all over again.

Re: [ilugd] Apple a bigger threat than Microsoft (was) Re: apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Friday 24 October 2008 16:21:10 Raj Mathur wrote: On Friday 24 Oct 2008, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] So the only argument left to fight about against Apple is the philosophical angle, one that has always been the toughest to get across. You have only the philosophical angle if

Re: [ilugd] Apple a bigger threat than Microsoft (was) Re: apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:47:08PM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Unix-better-than-windows moot. On top of this, a significant number of well known FOSS folks use Macs. I have seen photos of FOSS conferences where most of the people were using Macs. Don't totally discount them; at least

Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread shantanu goel
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:56:44PM +0530, shantanu goel wrote: I have some concerns about the open-ness of android. I've been reading that barring the kernel part, most of the things developed over it are licensed under

Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 07:26:22PM +0530, shantanu goel wrote: My concern is a bit with this philosophy in general and much more with Android in particular. This is because while for other computer based sw we would generally see an ASL/BSD based product being picked up by both kinds of

Re: [ilugd] Apple a bigger threat than Microsoft (was) Re: apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
secondly, we all tend to forget the mac hardware is an excellent device on which to run debian and especially ubuntu. Mac only looks good. I used to use G4 for film editing and it used to crash if you open Word while you work on FCP. that's what you see most people do at foss conferences.

[ilugd] KDE-4.1 Documentation

2008-10-24 Thread Mani A
Is this the best documentation for KDE-4.1 system administration? http://techbase.kde.org/SysAdmin and is it available in pdf format? or I may have to convert it Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc ___ ilugd mailinglist --

Re: [ilugd] Important : In support of Raj Thackeray...

2008-10-24 Thread amar akshat
Ha..Good one Shantanu Sir.. It feels as though ILUGD has become some sort of Communal Discussion Forum. Although the a ligations put forward by Ballu Bhai ..would have been pretty true , if Thakrey would have promised to ban the use MS Office in Maharashtra and would have said Why the hell should

Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread amar akshat
Hi But i had recently read an article that Google is again trying something fishy about android to increase its commercial appeal. I may be wrong about but that was apple's notion. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/08/13/google_android_flaws_pushing_software_firms_towards_iphone.html I feel

Re: [ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?

2008-10-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Shiv wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot find any FOSS iPod Manager. Can anyone help? Well, one of the options is not to use the Ipod because of its restrictive nature!! Other devices like those from Creative, Cowon and even Mio are linux-friendly and are well

Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
Looks like Google has imbibed enough wisdom about screwing developers from Apple. If you write a FOSS application you may be be able to use all the features of the Android. And G reserves the right to remotely, unilaterally disable applications on your phone if they (G) don't like them:

Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android

2008-10-24 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like Google has imbibed enough wisdom about screwing developers from Apple. If you write a FOSS application you may be be able to use all the features of the Android. And G reserves the right to remotely,