Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread amit soni
Lets have another Linux meet. and discuss this all over again. I love to watch 2 elderly people get wild and shout @ each other ! Hi Sudhir, First of all, I'd try not to use terms like `hijack' with respect to Linux-Delhi. If I had wanted to hijack Linux-Delhi I would have done it a

Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Tarun Dua
Everything that is Linux based But that doesn't override for most part with minor exceptions NO SELF PROMOTION on the LIST I suppose. OFF-LIST is different (Its between sender and receiver). Having settled this, although people on the other side (free software only) did try to hijack the

Re: [LONG] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Tarun Dua
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 13:47, sudhir chauhan exclaimed: MY GOD, TO MUCH OF POLITICS AND NO REAL STUFF Its Politics/Economics/Software Engineering and all these things are real stuff. Tarun Dua SNIPALL for now To unsubscribe,

Re: [ilugd]: Is anybody using sendmail from their PCs ?

2003-02-27 Thread Tarun Dua
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 13:57, Raj Mathur wrote: Oh, actually MTNL allows both: use their mail servers as relay if you're on their dial-up as well as SMTP directly to any host on the 'net that will have you. No connection `hijacking' there: set smart host to mail.mtnl.net.in (or something like

Re: [ilugd]: Is anybody using sendmail from their PCs ?

2003-02-27 Thread ashutosh pandey
I m installin Debian Linux on my PC with XP with the network interface.XP workin well but whilst installing Linux,after giving IP,netmask,gateway address,its givin 'dbootstrap' eroor.so, from tht its not proceeding Wt is wrong with its installation? - Original Message - From:

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Amit == amit soni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amit Lets have another Linux meet. and discuss this all over Amit again. I love to watch 2 elderly people get wild and shout Amit @ each other ! Elderly hoga tera ... anyway, nevermind that for now, woh to tere ko akele mein dekh loonga

[ilugd]: Allegation of fraud

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi, I've received a very serious complaint against Mr Prithu Nath, who took money from a Linux-Delhi member for CDs and then didn't supply the CDs. I'm requesting Mr Nath to clarify his position immediately with regard to this issue. If he fails to do so, I'm going to ask the member concerned

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta
Raj Mathur wrote: If there's an angle I've missed, please feel free to bring it up. Raj, have your views changed over the last 3 years? You were not, IIRC, so FSF-ish. I use the phrase GNU/Linux when I refer to Debian, but that is because that is what the Authors named it. I call Raj Raj,

[ilugd]: Jumping into linux software bandwagon

2003-02-27 Thread shah tushar
Hi, I don't know what the original intention of forming linux-user grp in Delhi was . But the way I see it that we are putting to much of emphasis on making linux number software(O.S) and all abt going gnuish blah blah . May be we should take all these consideration second and concentrate

[ilugd]: Ideals, Philosophy and Goals - Linux Users Group Delhi

2003-02-27 Thread Tarun Dua
Changing the thread name On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 15:12, Raj Mathur wrote: I agree, we probably need a Meet to discuss this. However, why don't we first take some time to talk about Linux on the list? At least three people (including you) have suggested that we have a Meet to thrash these

[ilugd]: Linux seen grabbing 10% of desktop OS segment in India

2003-02-27 Thread Sudhir Gandotra
Linux, the cash-saving open source option to costly proprietary operating system (OS) such as Microsoft's Windows operating system, is now seen to be gaining ground in the desktop market in India. Read full story at: http://www.business-standard.com/today/story.asp?Menu=2story=8930 -- Peace,

[ilugd]: First college-sponsored desktop distribution based on slackware has been released.

2003-02-27 Thread Sudhir Gandotra
CollegeLinux is a new, stand-alone operating system based on Slackware Linux and created by the Robert Kennedy College, Delémont, Switzerland. The aim of this experimental Linux distribution is to provide to RKC students and student population at large with an operating system which is easy to

[ilugd]: Hosted Windows Apps Coming Online with Linux

2003-02-27 Thread Pritam Pal
Fresh from the release of its CrossOver Office, Codeweavers, with a little help from application access software provider Tarantella (Quote, Company Info), is looking to up the ante by aiming that product at Citrix and Microsoft Terminal Server. CrossOver Officer allows users to run Microsoft

[ilugd]: Sorry, if off list : Microsoft mulls shifting more work to India

2003-02-27 Thread Pritam Pal
WASHINGTON: Bill Gates' Microsoft has more plans to move software development work to India to help the firm save money and increase production, according to a presentation made at an internal office meeting Read at

Re: [ilugd]: Jumping into linux software bandwagon

2003-02-27 Thread Nitin Chandra
Pritam stick around . u r not part of any list till u experience 'shit hits the fan' types. By the way i do second the way Tushar has expressed himself. Regards Nitin Chandra/ready to be flamed/ Pritam Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,I am only few hour old on this list. And I am

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Ghane == Sanjeev Gupta Sanjeev writes: Ghane Raj Mathur wrote: If there's an angle I've missed, please feel free to bring it up. Ghane Raj, have your views changed over the last 3 years? You Ghane were not, IIRC, so FSF-ish. Ghane I use the phrase GNU/Linux when I

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Anand Shankar
Section-I Begin Should the ilugd not discuss following: 1. Use of Oracle on Linux Platform: Because it is proprietary SW and does not help freedom 2. Samba: Because it has no relevance without MS-Windows OS, again a proprietary product, and does not help freedom: I am helping the demon?? 3.

[ilugd]: Reverse Proxy with Squid

2003-02-27 Thread Anand Shankar
I am using Squid as a normal Proxy Server on my RH 7.2 box. I wish to now use it as a reverse proxy (Web Accelerator) in addition to normal proxying function, with the following requirements: 1. The Apache Webserver should on the Proxyhost should continue as before 2. Two machines on my

[ilugd]: Can't boot in linux...not enough memory..i have 128 mb ram..pls help

2003-02-27 Thread santosh dubey
Dear sys admins, I am getting serious problem in my dual boot computer. I installed windows xp and mandrake 8.2. when I installed mandrake and restarted computer, I got following message….. Booting ‘linux’ Kernel(hd0,5)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet vga=788

Re: [ilugd]: Is Linux as vulnerable as Windows?

2003-02-27 Thread Narsingh Sahu
--- Pritam Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Counting viruses is simplistic, but there is evidence that Windows is becoming more resistent, and Linux is becoming more of a target Turning the heat up another notch on a long-simmering debate, the Aberdeen Group has published a study

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread amit soni
Equally, those who believe that proprietary software can promote Linux and/or freedom are also welcome to put their points of view across. If there's an angle I've missed, please feel free to bring it up. -- Raju My veiw- 1) I don't use Linux for its ideology 2) I don't care about the

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi Anand, Anand == Anand Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anand Section-I Begin Should the ilugd not discuss following: Anand 1. Use of Oracle on Linux Platform: Because it is Anand proprietary SW and does not help freedom 2. Samba: Because Anand it has no relevance without

Re: [ilugd]: Is Linux as vulnerable as Windows?

2003-02-27 Thread amit soni
Its seems like every Phd in US assumes the moral responsibility of inventing 1 new radical theory/observation every month, to prove that they deserved the phd. Even better is to touch a sensitive topic, get sponsor companies. Be it linux viruses, cell fones and brain tumor, cigarettes and nail

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Cool, that was pretty well though out and thanks for the viewpoint. I hope more people will take the initiative and speak out their minds. And thanks for the plug about my Linux expertise too... if anyone on the list reads that and gives me a project 10% is yours ;) -- Raju Amit == amit soni

Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread LinuxLingam
On Thursday 27 February 2003 01:47 pm, you wrote: MY GOD, TO MUCH OF POLITICS AND NO REAL STUFF hi sudhir, just one line from your email, and you forwarded the entire emails of raj and sudhir. that's tooo much as well. please be a little more careful in the future :-)

Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Gagan Grewal
Hi Folks! On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:10:33PM +0800, Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote: However, this is a slippery slope. I prefer to call it Debian GNU/BSD/SVR4.2/T-Baum/ARPA/Buffer Overflow/Linux. OK ... finally someone has made a substantial point ... I would say the same too ... Linux is the free

Re: [ilugd]: Is anybody using sendmail from their PCs ?

2003-02-27 Thread Gagan Grewal
Hi Folks! On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:42:18AM +0530, Raj Mathur wrote: Bad idea. If you have to clobber lines, cd /etc/mail ; edit sendmail.mc ; make sendmail.cf Don't touch sendmail.cf directly as far as possible. Did that too ... that did set 'Djvsnl.net' ... just what I wanted BUT the

Re: [ilugd]: Is anybody using sendmail from their PCs ?

2003-02-27 Thread vivek
why are yu taking so much pains? installing and configuring qmail is much more easier, and sending mails is also extremely fast. Life with qmail - http://www.lifewithqmail.org and http://www.qmail.org -- \|||/ (o o)

Re: [ilugd]: Is Linux as vulnerable as Windows?

2003-02-27 Thread Gagan Grewal
Hi Folks! On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 05:28:35PM +0530, Pritam Pal wrote: Counting viruses is simplistic, but there is evidence that Windows is becoming more resistent, Consider this ... Linux is open source ... it's pretty much likely that ppl at MS are copying smart pieces of Linux code into

Re: [ilugd]: whither linux-delhi?

2003-02-27 Thread Dhruv Gami
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, LinuxLingam wrote: 1) should linux-delhi.org be allowed to promote such software? *only* a vote by all members can decide this. so let's stop discussing, and start voting. i The question here, as has been raised before, is how does one define promote? According to

Re: [ilugd]:Video streaming server for Linux part 2...amber where r u ?

2003-02-27 Thread amit soni
Ok, thanks for helix/viedolan but no, they are not good enough or not free. Hasnt any1 ever used a free viedo streaming server. Where is that dude who fingers with every new linux software/hardware ? Amber!! Which is the best free linux video streaming server ? regards, -Amit Soni.

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Dhruv Gami
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Anand Shankar wrote: Should the ilugd not discuss following: 1. Use of Oracle on Linux Platform: Because it is proprietary SW and does not help freedom 2. Samba: Because it has no relevance without MS-Windows OS, again a proprietary product, and does not help

Re: [LONG] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Pankaj Kaushal
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 08:17:41AM +, sudhir chauhan wrote: sudhir chauhan sudhir chauhan MY GOD, TO MUCH OF POLITICS AND NO REAL STUFF too much of dumbness too. dear Mr SmartyPants if you wish to express your views please do so but do so responsibly please

Re: [ilugd]: Jumping into linux software bandwagon

2003-02-27 Thread amit soni
I am only few hour old on this list. And I am disappointed. I hope it does not continue much longer, or I might need to look at some other list. No offence meant. Pritam Tell me what part disappointed you ? This list is an example of a successful democracy. Technical and well as political.

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread amit soni
Also, I would like to know: If a user has used some proprietory software (on a linux-based is it acceptable by the group ? If yes, then if the person who developed it, or someone who's connected directly or indirectly with the software, tells the group about the software, THEN is it

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread amit soni
anyone has any questions regarding the history of Linux, the GPL and other licenses, GNU or the current social-political-economic issues around free software I'd be glad to answer them to the bast of my ability. last line... lol... Did you know bast was the Egyptian goddess for cats.

Re: [ilugd]: Is anybody using sendmail from their PCs ?

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi Gagan, Gagan == Gagan Grewal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gagan Hi Folks! On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:42:18AM +0530, Raj Gagan Mathur wrote: Bad idea. If you have to clobber lines, cd /etc/mail ; edit sendmail.mc ; make sendmail.cf Don't touch sendmail.cf directly

Re: [ilugd]: Is anybody using sendmail from their PCs ?

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Vivek == subs vk vivek writes: Vivek why are yu taking so much pains? installing and configuring Vivek qmail is much more easier, and sending mails is also Vivek extremely fast. Vivek Life with qmail - http://www.lifewithqmail.org and Vivek http://www.qmail.org Well,

RE: [ilugd]: Can't boot in linux...not enough memory..i have 128 mb ram..pls help

2003-02-27 Thread Manish Sharma , Gurgaon
Hi Santosh, Are you using GRUB? The problem is not related to the amount of RAM (probably not even to the size of the kernel - I might be wrong there). I faced the same problem some time back with a dual booting system having Win2k and RHL8.0. I could not locate any solution to it anywhere.

Re: [LONG-short] Re: [ilugd]: Linux based Software

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Dhruv == Dhruv Gami [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dhruv [snip] Dhruv Also, I would like to know: Dhruv If a user has used some proprietory software (on a Dhruv linux-based operating system) and tells the group about Dhruv his/her experience with the software, is it acceptable

Re: [ilugd]: Ideals, Philosophy and Goals - Linux Users Group Delhi

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Wow, you asked for a lot! I can't answer everything but here's some stuff that may help to get started... OK guys, you asked for this one! Don't blame me for another long mail... Tarun == Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tarun [snip] Tarun Few Questions in this perspective 1.

Re: [ilugd]: Jumping into linux software bandwagon

2003-02-27 Thread Pritam Pal
May be I was too optimist when I joined the list. or As I said I am new to this list, so may be this observation was little premature. - Original Message - From: amit soni [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [ilugd]: Jumping into

[ilugd]: India Linux News: Linux seen grabbing 10% of desktop OS segment

2003-02-27 Thread Pritam Pal
Interesting story on wed 26th Business Standard. Pritam === Linux seen grabbing 10% of desktop OS segment Sanjay K Pillai in Chennai Published : February 26, 2003 Linux, the cash-saving open source option to costly proprietary operating system (OS)

Re: [ilugd]: Can't boot in linux...not enough memory..i have 128 mb ram..pls help

2003-02-27 Thread Tushar Kanwar
Hi dubey, Use LILO - grub has some issues loading certain boot images esp. Mandrake 8.2 and Redhat 8 into memory. Works for me Regards, Tushar KanwarSTMicroelectronics Pvt. Ltd. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

Re: [ilugd]: Allegation of fraud

2003-02-27 Thread MALKIAT BENIPAL
Dear Mathur saheb, In future to avoid such kind of incidents, pleasebring it to the notice of all the concerend members that they must ensurethat CDs are only deliveredagainst cash receipt onlyie. COD basis. Secondly, if such kind of persons are taking advantage of ILUGD in such an illegal way,

Re: [ilugd]: Allegation of fraud

2003-02-27 Thread MALKIAT BENIPAL
Dear Mathur saheb, In future to avoid such kind of incidents, pleasebring it to the notice of all the concerend members that they must ensurethat CDs are only deliveredagainst cash receipt onlyie. COD basis. Secondly, if such kind of persons are taking advantage of ILUGD in such an illegal way,

Re: Re: [ilugd]: Allegation of fraud]

2003-02-27 Thread Vijay Srivastava
Hi, As per my knowledge ,There was a big fire(By short circuit) at Mr Prithu Nath Office (Gulmohar Park) May be because of that he will be unable to send the CD. Vijay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], cd CC: Prithu Nath , Prithu Nath From: Raj Mathur Subject: [ilugd]: Allegation of fraud Hi, I've

[ilugd]: 1. mount points and 2. cvs

2003-02-27 Thread Jasmeet S. Virdi
Hi all, Have a small query, though not a problem but i cristy sake :) neways, i wanted to know the purpose of the different mount points (/, /usr,/boot,) though i know them broadly (cos of the names duh !) but more specific purpose. This came up cos, till now i have been manually

Re: [ilugd]: Allegation of fraud

2003-02-27 Thread Prithu Nath
Hello Everyone, We are running a company servicing very prestigious clients for web hosting, domain registrations,software services etc. There is no question of any fraud. We had a major electrical fault and a subsequent network / hardware burnout last week due to which all our operations

Re: Re: [ilugd]: Allegation of fraud]

2003-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi Vijay, Vijay == Vijay Srivastava Vijay writes: Vijay Hi, As per my knowledge ,There was a big fire(By short Vijay circuit) at Mr Prithu Nath Office (Gulmohar Park) May be Vijay because of that he will be unable to send the CD. Thanks for the information. If that is really the

Re: [ilugd]: Is anybody using sendmail from their PCs ?

2003-02-27 Thread Narsingh Sahu
--- Gagan Grewal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I run 'sendmail -q' ... I get 'DNS Lookup Error: smtp.vsnl.net', and the same if I replace smtp.vsnl.net with the actuall ip addr. Any additions/modifications ? Are you sure about the VSNL smtp server address? I thought it was

Re: [ilugd]: Can't boot in linux...not enough memory..i have 128 mb ram..pls help

2003-02-27 Thread Gagan Grewal
Hi Folks! On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 06:58:21AM -0800, santosh dubey wrote: I am getting serious problem in my dual boot computer. I installed windows xp and mandrake 8.2. when I installed mandrake and restarted computer, I got following message….. Try this ... when the GRUB screen shows up