Re: [lemonade] Re: RECONNECT and SASL-IR aren't friends

2004-07-16 Thread Rob Siemborski
. The client is not going to use it unless the server supports it. Well, of course, but if SASL-IR is going to change, that's a problem. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC

Re: [lemonade] Re: RECONNECT and SASL-IR aren't friends

2004-07-16 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: Rob Siemborski writes: While it might be slightly cleaner, both UW and Cyrus both already implement the original AUTHENTICATE syntax. In released versions or just internally? If in released versions, I suggest a Last Call for the SASL-IR draft right

Re: Possible IMAP extension to monitor multiple folders with IDLE mechanism

2004-06-23 Thread Rob Siemborski
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Re: IDLE Command issued in the Authenticated state

2004-05-04 Thread Rob Siemborski
that clearly states Not a folder *or* a bit of hierarchy and take care of it that way, something like: * LIST (\Noop) . test -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC | Cyert

Re: mailbox - email address mapping

2004-02-10 Thread Rob Siemborski
don't see it in the current document. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC | Cyert Hall 207 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 412.268.7456 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK Version: 3.12 GCS

Re: while we're on the subject

2004-01-07 Thread Rob Siemborski
on a particular interpretation of the reference argument without the user doing something somewhat questionable. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC | Cyert Hall 207

Re: entirely read-only service

2004-01-05 Thread Rob Siemborski
of IMAP, backwards compatibility does *NOT* dictate otherwise, and you should not advertise AUTH=PLAIN unless some form of transport security is in effect. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems

Re: CRAM-MD5 / secure PW authentication database

2003-12-15 Thread Rob Siemborski
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Re: How do I set referrals (to another server) on per user basis?

2003-11-27 Thread Rob Siemborski
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Re: SEARCH response(s)

2003-11-05 Thread Rob Siemborski
as you can deal with the occasional message that hasn't been declared yet). -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC | Cyert Hall 207 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 412.268.7456 -BEGIN

Re: Standalone operation

2003-10-10 Thread Rob Siemborski
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Re: on explicit locking

2003-09-25 Thread Rob Siemborski
and holds the mailbox lock first. In fact, in this case C1 has *no* chance of ever deleting the message if it loses the first race. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC | Cyert Hall

Re: RFC822 single file mail store

2003-09-23 Thread Rob Siemborski
backend, and no others). Then again, if Craig is willing to flat-out convert to a new format, then Cyrus is probably a closer match to what he currently has. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems

Re: LIST

2003-09-17 Thread Rob Siemborski
implementation-specific behavior to me. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC | Cyert Hall 207 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 412.268.7456 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK Version: 3.12 GCS/IT/CM

Re: LIST

2003-09-16 Thread Rob Siemborski
to argue that any given server isn't free to use this convention of trailing hierarchy separator, but we're far from making IMAP a generally less useful protocol by not using it. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group

Re: LIST

2003-09-16 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Mark Crispin wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Rob Siemborski wrote: I don't think IMAP has anything to say on the matter, really, since the specification has remained silent on the issue. [snip] Note the words zero or more. Why zero? Because of the next sentence, where

Re: LIST

2003-09-15 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Mark Crispin wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Rob Siemborski wrote: If I do a LIST INBOX/%, and I have no sub-mailboxes in my INBOX, INBOX does not match the pattern -- it is missing the trailing hierarchy separator. However, INBOX/ does; and if INBOX is not \NoInferiors

Re: LIST

2003-09-15 Thread Rob Siemborski
Timo's original question was about a dual-use mailbox your statement seemed much broader than I guess you intended). -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC | Cyert Hall 207 * [EMAIL

Re: LIST

2003-09-15 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Mark Crispin wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Rob Siemborski wrote: While I think its somewhat bizarre to report a leaf mailbox that is \NoSelect and doesn't have any children, I can atleast appreciate why this is necessary in some environments. However, as you say

Re: which server implements IMAP referals these days RFC2193?

2003-09-03 Thread Rob Siemborski
The Cyrus IMAP Aggregator frontends use it when the client makes it clear that it will support it (for example, by issuing an RLIST/RLSUB command). -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP

Re: LIST and Marked folders

2003-06-20 Thread Rob Siemborski
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Re: LIST and Marked folders

2003-06-20 Thread Rob Siemborski
. In the current specification, this isn't the only interpretation, however. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group * Research Systems Programmer PGP:0x5CE32FCC | Cyert Hall 207 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 412.268.7456 -BEGIN GEEK CODE

Re: LIST and Marked folders

2003-06-20 Thread Rob Siemborski
mail in it, which my main client had not yet observed... but now the folder doesn't have \Unmarked status since it's been SELECTed since the new mail was delivered. The \Recent message flag has the same problem. -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob

Re: LIST and Marked folders

2003-06-20 Thread Rob Siemborski
' in the current wording. In fact, David does raise an excellent example of an interpretation of an 'interesting' mailbox that is not degenerate (as the penguins case admittedly is). -Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rob Siemborski | Andrew Systems Group

Re: Getting rid of the sequence numbers

2003-02-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
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Re: Is STORE x FLAGS () legal?

2003-01-27 Thread Rob Siemborski
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