Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-21 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Memnon Anon gegendosenflei...@googlemail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:
 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:
 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:
 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:
 [oh boy, time for some snipping ;)]

 Why? If you have a stable configuration, and that the upgrades does
 not worth it, why changing? You know what you have, but not what you
 may have.
 [...]
 FWIW, Emacs 23 is nice. Why not move to it?
 I believe it. I looked a bit at it, and it seems nice.
 What in your config is so specifically Emacs 22?
 I am using here a homemade Debian for my netbook. Any new app flavour
 can result in many problems, and I thus like to minimize as much as
 possible any modification.
 Why not try? I'm sure any feedback would be appreciated too!
 Which one are you using? And the others?

 You know, that using Debian, it is easy to have e.g. emacs22, emacs23
 and emacs-snapshot on one and the same system?
 So, give it a try, if it breaks anything, just uninstall it again.
 Thus, you can know what you have *and* what you may have ;).
I will try it out. Thanks. :-)

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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
 Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?
 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

 Except for the problems? :-)
 It is not a real problem for me, but I was astonished about such
 reactions concerning my signature.

 What reaction? It was merely pointed out hat your signature is
 incorrectly set and that Gnu normally does it correctly. This suggests a
 bug in Gnu or an error on your part.

 I hadn't thought that people would notice such a thing!

 You notice it when you reply. Gnus automatically cuts of the signature
 when its properly set. You not setting it correctly means it must be
 manually done or one must change the regexp which matches the -- .
 It's a minor inconvenience. Not the end of the world.
Yes, but I was surprised as it is a detail. I had never thought that
people would notice such a detail. But I anyway find it important.


 Did you try the settings I posted for using epa? I know it wasn't
 documented properly a while ago but I think its improved.
 Yes, but it does not work with my settings. The configuration seems
 really difficult, to make your code working in adequacy with my proper
 settings.

 What settings do you have where you think the 2 or 3 lines I showed you
 dont work? Someone else helpfully suggested you are using the wrong, out
 of date and non supported mailcrypt for some reason. You need to use
 epa.
 Principally, I have parameterized MIME settings for PGnus.

 What does that mean?
I am using a special configuration with homemade parameters. Here are
the potential things which would potentially interfere with my
settings:

1. MIME Settings (from my .gnus):

;; MIME Settings for PGnus
 (require 'mm-util)
 (defun mm-read-charset (prompt)
   Return a charset.
   'iso-8859-15)
 (setq gnus-default-posting-charset (quote iso-8859-15))
 (setq gnus-article-decode-mime-words t)
 (setq gnus-article-decode-charset 1)
 (setq gnus-mime-view-all-parts t) ; View all the MIME parts in current article
 (setq gnus-ignored-mime-types
   '(text/x-vcard))
 (setq gnus-unbuttonized-mime-types nil) ; MIME type - no buttons when rendered
 (setq
 ;; Add buttons
  gnus-treat-buttonize t
  ;; Add buttons to the head
  gnus-treat-buttonize-head 'head
  ;; Emphasize text
  gnus-treat-emphasize t
  ;; Fill the article
  gnus-treat-fill-article nil
;  ;; Remove carriage returns
  gnus-treat-strip-cr 'last
  ;; Hide headers
  gnus-treat-hide-headers 'head
;  ;; Hide boring headers
  gnus-treat-hide-boring-headers 'head
  ;; Hide the signature
  gnus-treat-hide-signature nil
 ;; Hide cited text
;  gnus-treat-hide-citation nil
  ;; Strip PGP signatures
  gnus-treat-strip-pgp 'last
;  ;; Strip PEM signatures
  gnus-treat-strip-pem 'last
  ;; Highlight the headers
  gnus-treat-highlight-headers 'head
  ;; Highlight cited text
;  gnus-treat-highlight-citation 'last
  ;; Highlight the signature
  gnus-treat-highlight-signature 'last
  ;; Display the Date in UT (GMT)
  gnus-treat-date-ut nil
  ;; Display the Date in the local timezone
  gnus-treat-date-local nil
  ;; Display the date in the original timezone
  gnus-treat-date-original nil
  ;; Strip trailing blank lines
  gnus-treat-strip-trailing-blank-lines 'last
 ;; Strip leading blank lines
  gnus-treat-strip-leading-blank-lines 'last
  ;; Strip multiple blank lines
  gnus-treat-strip-multiple-blank-lines 'last
  ;; Strip all blank lines
  ;; gnus-treat-strip-blank-lines nil
  ;; Treat overstrike highlighting
  gnus-treat-overstrike 'last
  )
 ;;* show the text/plain part before the text/html part in multpart/alternative
 (require 'mm-decode)
 ;;;-- no way do compile with this
; ;;;--(push text/plain mm-alternative-precedence)
 ;;;--(setq mm-alternative-precedence text/plain)
 (message gnus.el: MIME initialized)

2. I had pretty nothing to do to configure Mailcrypt correctly (it was really a
straightforward installation). Thus, I am having various parts of my
Gnus being mixed with Mailcrypt (Mailcrypt is integrated in it): when
sending an e-mail, or to a newsgroup, it asks me to 

Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Richard Riley
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
 Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like 
 it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?
 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

 Except for the problems? :-)
 It is not a real problem for me, but I was astonished about such
 reactions concerning my signature.

 What reaction? It was merely pointed out hat your signature is
 incorrectly set and that Gnu normally does it correctly. This suggests a
 bug in Gnu or an error on your part.

 I hadn't thought that people would notice such a thing!

 You notice it when you reply. Gnus automatically cuts of the signature
 when its properly set. You not setting it correctly means it must be
 manually done or one must change the regexp which matches the -- .
 It's a minor inconvenience. Not the end of the world.
 Yes, but I was surprised as it is a detail. I had never thought that
 people would notice such a detail. But I anyway find it important.


 Did you try the settings I posted for using epa? I know it wasn't
 documented properly a while ago but I think its improved.
 Yes, but it does not work with my settings. The configuration seems
 really difficult, to make your code working in adequacy with my proper
 settings.

 What settings do you have where you think the 2 or 3 lines I showed you
 dont work? Someone else helpfully suggested you are using the wrong, out
 of date and non supported mailcrypt for some reason. You need to use
 epa.
 Principally, I have parameterized MIME settings for PGnus.

 What does that mean?
 I am using a special configuration with homemade parameters. Here are
 the potential things which would potentially interfere with my
 settings:

 1. MIME Settings (from my .gnus):

 ;; MIME Settings for PGnus
  (require 'mm-util)
  (defun mm-read-charset (prompt)
Return a charset.
'iso-8859-15)
  (setq gnus-default-posting-charset (quote iso-8859-15))
  (setq gnus-article-decode-mime-words t)
  (setq gnus-article-decode-charset 1)
  (setq gnus-mime-view-all-parts t) ; View all the MIME parts in current 
 article
  (setq gnus-ignored-mime-types
'(text/x-vcard))
  (setq gnus-unbuttonized-mime-types nil) ; MIME type - no buttons when 
 rendered
  (setq
  ;; Add buttons
   gnus-treat-buttonize t
   ;; Add buttons to the head
   gnus-treat-buttonize-head 'head
   ;; Emphasize text
   gnus-treat-emphasize t
   ;; Fill the article
   gnus-treat-fill-article nil
 ;  ;; Remove carriage returns
   gnus-treat-strip-cr 'last
   ;; Hide headers
   gnus-treat-hide-headers 'head
 ;  ;; Hide boring headers
   gnus-treat-hide-boring-headers 'head
   ;; Hide the signature
   gnus-treat-hide-signature nil
  ;; Hide cited text
 ;  gnus-treat-hide-citation nil
   ;; Strip PGP signatures
   gnus-treat-strip-pgp 'last
 ;  ;; Strip PEM signatures
   gnus-treat-strip-pem 'last
   ;; Highlight the headers
   gnus-treat-highlight-headers 'head
   ;; Highlight cited text
 ;  gnus-treat-highlight-citation 'last
   ;; Highlight the signature
   gnus-treat-highlight-signature 'last
   ;; Display the Date in UT (GMT)
   gnus-treat-date-ut nil
   ;; Display the Date in the local timezone
   gnus-treat-date-local nil
   ;; Display the date in the original timezone
   gnus-treat-date-original nil
   ;; Strip trailing blank lines
   gnus-treat-strip-trailing-blank-lines 'last
  ;; Strip leading blank lines
   gnus-treat-strip-leading-blank-lines 'last
   ;; Strip multiple blank lines
   gnus-treat-strip-multiple-blank-lines 'last
   ;; Strip all blank lines
   ;; gnus-treat-strip-blank-lines nil
   ;; Treat overstrike highlighting
   gnus-treat-overstrike 'last
   )
  ;;* show the text/plain part before the text/html part in 
 multpart/alternative
  (require 'mm-decode)
  ;;;-- no way do compile with this
 ; ;;;--(push text/plain mm-alternative-precedence)
  ;;;--(setq mm-alternative-precedence text/plain)
  (message gnus.el: MIME initialized)

 2. I had pretty nothing to do to configure Mailcrypt correctly (it was really 
 a
 straightforward installation). Thus, I am having various parts of my
 Gnus being mixed with 

Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 By what method do you make Gnus sign your messages?
 I am using Mailcrypt.

 Everything which is linked to PGP/MIME and signatures, in my .Gnus is:

 All I have is (emacs 23)

 ,
 | (require 'auth-source)
 | (require 'epa-file)
 | (setq epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption t) ;;VERY Important
 | (if (file-exists-p ~/.authinfo.gpg)
 | (setq auth-sources '((:source ~/.authinfo.gpg :host t :protocol t)))
 | (setq auth-sources '((:source ~/.authinfo :host t :protocol t
 | 
 | and in my gnus posting styles:
 `

 ,
 | (setq gnus-posting-styles `((.*
 | (name Richard Riley)
 | (from Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com)
 | (eval(setq gnushush-user-agent-header (quote real)))
 | (signature-file ~/.emacs.d/.sigs/rgr.sig)
 | (eval (setq mml2015-signers '(b39a104a)))
 | (organization aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot 
 net
 `

 The mml2015-signers is the important bit. Now admittedly I don't bother
 signing by default.
Okay. I tried these settings, but I encounter a problem: neither
auth-sources nor epa-file are found. Can I download them somewhere? If
so, under which name?

Thanks.

- -- 
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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
 Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like 
 it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the 
 currently
 recommended way epg?
 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

 Except for the problems? :-)
 It is not a real problem for me, but I was astonished about such
 reactions concerning my signature.

 What reaction? It was merely pointed out hat your signature is
 incorrectly set and that Gnu normally does it correctly. This suggests a
 bug in Gnu or an error on your part.

 I hadn't thought that people would notice such a thing!

 You notice it when you reply. Gnus automatically cuts of the signature
 when its properly set. You not setting it correctly means it must be
 manually done or one must change the regexp which matches the -- .
 It's a minor inconvenience. Not the end of the world.
 Yes, but I was surprised as it is a detail. I had never thought that
 people would notice such a detail. But I anyway find it important.


 Did you try the settings I posted for using epa? I know it wasn't
 documented properly a while ago but I think its improved.
 Yes, but it does not work with my settings. The configuration seems
 really difficult, to make your code working in adequacy with my proper
 settings.

 What settings do you have where you think the 2 or 3 lines I showed you
 dont work? Someone else helpfully suggested you are using the wrong, out
 of date and non supported mailcrypt for some reason. You need to use
 epa.
 Principally, I have parameterized MIME settings for PGnus.

 What does that mean?
 I am using a special configuration with homemade parameters. Here are
 the potential things which would potentially interfere with my
 settings:

 1. MIME Settings (from my .gnus):

 ;; MIME Settings for PGnus
  (require 'mm-util)
  (defun mm-read-charset (prompt)
Return a charset.
'iso-8859-15)
  (setq gnus-default-posting-charset (quote iso-8859-15))
  (setq gnus-article-decode-mime-words t)
  (setq gnus-article-decode-charset 1)
  (setq gnus-mime-view-all-parts t) ; View all the MIME parts in current 
 article
  (setq gnus-ignored-mime-types
'(text/x-vcard))
  (setq gnus-unbuttonized-mime-types nil) ; MIME type - no buttons when 
 rendered
  (setq
  ;; Add buttons
   gnus-treat-buttonize t
   ;; Add buttons to the head
   gnus-treat-buttonize-head 'head
   ;; Emphasize text
   gnus-treat-emphasize t
   ;; Fill the article
   gnus-treat-fill-article nil
 ;  ;; Remove carriage returns
   gnus-treat-strip-cr 'last
   ;; Hide headers
   gnus-treat-hide-headers 'head
 ;  ;; Hide boring headers
   gnus-treat-hide-boring-headers 'head
   ;; Hide the signature
   gnus-treat-hide-signature nil
  ;; Hide cited text
 ;  gnus-treat-hide-citation nil
   ;; Strip PGP signatures
   gnus-treat-strip-pgp 'last
 ;  ;; Strip PEM signatures
   gnus-treat-strip-pem 'last
   ;; Highlight the headers
   gnus-treat-highlight-headers 'head
   ;; Highlight cited text
 ;  gnus-treat-highlight-citation 'last
   ;; Highlight the signature
   gnus-treat-highlight-signature 'last
   ;; Display the Date in UT (GMT)
   gnus-treat-date-ut nil
   ;; Display the Date in the local timezone
   gnus-treat-date-local nil
   ;; Display the date in the original timezone
   gnus-treat-date-original nil
   ;; Strip trailing blank lines
   gnus-treat-strip-trailing-blank-lines 'last
  ;; Strip leading blank lines
   gnus-treat-strip-leading-blank-lines 'last
   ;; Strip multiple blank lines
   gnus-treat-strip-multiple-blank-lines 'last
   ;; Strip all blank lines
   ;; gnus-treat-strip-blank-lines nil
   ;; Treat overstrike highlighting
   gnus-treat-overstrike 'last
   )
  ;;* show the text/plain part before the text/html part in 
 multpart/alternative
  (require 'mm-decode)
  ;;;-- no way do compile with this
 ; ;;;--(push text/plain mm-alternative-precedence)
  ;;;--(setq mm-alternative-precedence text/plain)
  (message gnus.el: MIME initialized)

 2. I had pretty nothing to do to configure Mailcrypt correctly (it was 
 really a
 

Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Okay. I tried these settings, but I encounter a problem: neither
 auth-sources nor epa-file are found. Can I download them somewhere? If
 so, under which name?

 google emacs epg download.

 http://www.easypg.org/
 Nice. Just a question: will moving to EasyPG erases Mailcrypt? I need
 to be able to sign every mail (to some given persons), for various
 purposes, and I am frightened about the idea of seeing EasyPG not
 working on my config.

 What is important or non portable about your config? I dont see any
 mailcrypt specific there or nothing not easily ported.


 Maybe consider moving to emacs 23 too? I hadn't realised you were on 22,
 but I used epa/epg (what is its name?) with that too.
 Why? If you have a stable configuration, and that the upgrades does
 not worth it, why changing? You know what you have, but not what you
 may have.

 Err .. this thread has been going on a while now :-)  But fine, the link
 is above and the rest is just tinkering I hope for you.
Hope so too. I do not have a lot of time, and it will thus have to wait.

 FWIW, Emacs 23 is nice. Why not move to it?
I believe it. I looked a bit at it, and it seems nice.
 What in your config is so
 specifically Emacs 22?
I am using here a homemade Debian for my netbook. Any new app flavour
can result in many problems, and I thus like to minimize as much as
possible any modification.
 Why not try? I'm sure any feedback would be
 appreciated too!
Which one are you using? And the others?

- -- 
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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
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With all the pieces of info everybody gave me, I have now all the
elements to try EasyPG and related stuff. But Mailcrypt is still doing 
everything
without asking me if I allow it to or not. Do I have to uninstall it,
or is there a way to deactivate it? Would it corrupt my Gnus? Hope no.

Thanks.
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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Okay. I tried these settings, but I encounter a problem: neither
 auth-sources nor epa-file are found. Can I download them somewhere? If
 so, under which name?

 google emacs epg download.

 http://www.easypg.org/
Nice. Just a question: will moving to EasyPG erases Mailcrypt? I need
to be able to sign every mail (to some given persons), for various
purposes, and I am frightened about the idea of seeing EasyPG not
working on my config.

 Maybe consider moving to emacs 23 too? I hadn't realised you were on 22,
 but I used epa/epg (what is its name?) with that too.
Why? If you have a stable configuration, and that the upgrades does
not worth it, why changing? You know what you have, but not what you
may have.
- -- 
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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Richard Riley
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Okay. I tried these settings, but I encounter a problem: neither
 auth-sources nor epa-file are found. Can I download them somewhere? If
 so, under which name?

google emacs epg download.

http://www.easypg.org/

Maybe consider moving to emacs 23 too? I hadn't realised you were on 22,
but I used epa/epg (what is its name?) with that too.

Good luck,
r.

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Richard Riley
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Okay. I tried these settings, but I encounter a problem: neither
 auth-sources nor epa-file are found. Can I download them somewhere? If
 so, under which name?

 google emacs epg download.

 http://www.easypg.org/
 Nice. Just a question: will moving to EasyPG erases Mailcrypt? I need
 to be able to sign every mail (to some given persons), for various
 purposes, and I am frightened about the idea of seeing EasyPG not
 working on my config.

What is important or non portable about your config? I dont see any
mailcrypt specific there or nothing not easily ported.


 Maybe consider moving to emacs 23 too? I hadn't realised you were on 22,
 but I used epa/epg (what is its name?) with that too.
 Why? If you have a stable configuration, and that the upgrades does
 not worth it, why changing? You know what you have, but not what you
 may have.

Err .. this thread has been going on a while now :-)  But fine, the link
is above and the rest is just tinkering I hope for you.

FWIW, Emacs 23 is nice. Why not move to it? What in your config is so
specifically Emacs 22? Why not try? I'm sure any feedback would be
appreciated too!
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-20 Thread Memnon Anon
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:
 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:
 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:
 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:
[oh boy, time for some snipping ;)]

 Why? If you have a stable configuration, and that the upgrades does
 not worth it, why changing? You know what you have, but not what you
 may have.
[...]
 FWIW, Emacs 23 is nice. Why not move to it?
 I believe it. I looked a bit at it, and it seems nice.
 What in your config is so specifically Emacs 22?
 I am using here a homemade Debian for my netbook. Any new app flavour
 can result in many problems, and I thus like to minimize as much as
 possible any modification.
 Why not try? I'm sure any feedback would be appreciated too!
 Which one are you using? And the others?

You know, that using Debian, it is easy to have e.g. emacs22, emacs23
and emacs-snapshot on one and the same system?
So, give it a try, if it breaks anything, just uninstall it again.
Thus, you can know what you have *and* what you may have ;).

- Memnon



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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-19 Thread Richard Riley
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
 Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?
 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

 Except for the problems? :-)
 It is not a real problem for me, but I was astonished about such
 reactions concerning my signature.

What reaction? It was merely pointed out hat your signature is
incorrectly set and that Gnu normally does it correctly. This suggests a
bug in Gnu or an error on your part.


 Did you try the settings I posted for using epa? I know it wasn't
 documented properly a while ago but I think its improved.
 Yes, but it does not work with my settings. The configuration seems
 really difficult, to make your code working in adequacy with my proper
 settings.

What settings do you have where you think the 2 or 3 lines I showed you
dont work? Someone else helpfully suggested you are using the wrong, out
of date and non supported mailcrypt for some reason. You need to use
epa.


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 See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
 Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?
 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

 Except for the problems? :-)
 It is not a real problem for me, but I was astonished about such
 reactions concerning my signature.

 What reaction? It was merely pointed out hat your signature is
 incorrectly set and that Gnu normally does it correctly. This suggests a
 bug in Gnu or an error on your part.


 Did you try the settings I posted for using epa? I know it wasn't
 documented properly a while ago but I think its improved.
 Yes, but it does not work with my settings. The configuration seems
 really difficult, to make your code working in adequacy with my proper
 settings.

 What settings do you have where you think the 2 or 3 lines I showed you
 dont work? Someone else helpfully suggested you are using the wrong, out
 of date and non supported mailcrypt for some reason. You need to use
 epa.


 --
 Merciadri Luca
 See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/

Another problem is that once I have installed Mailcrypt, it seems to
be used by default. Would I have to uninstall it to have a chance of
using another potentially method successfully?
- -- 
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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-19 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:56:29 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

 Another problem is that once I have installed Mailcrypt, it seems to
 be used by default.

Could you reveal what you do to have all your messages pgp-signed?


  Best regards,

Adam

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-19 Thread Richard Riley
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
 Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?
 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

 Except for the problems? :-)
 It is not a real problem for me, but I was astonished about such
 reactions concerning my signature.

 What reaction? It was merely pointed out hat your signature is
 incorrectly set and that Gnu normally does it correctly. This suggests a
 bug in Gnu or an error on your part.

 I hadn't thought that people would notice such a thing!

You notice it when you reply. Gnus automatically cuts of the signature
when its properly set. You not setting it correctly means it must be
manually done or one must change the regexp which matches the -- .
It's a minor inconvenience. Not the end of the world.



 Did you try the settings I posted for using epa? I know it wasn't
 documented properly a while ago but I think its improved.
 Yes, but it does not work with my settings. The configuration seems
 really difficult, to make your code working in adequacy with my proper
 settings.

 What settings do you have where you think the 2 or 3 lines I showed you
 dont work? Someone else helpfully suggested you are using the wrong, out
 of date and non supported mailcrypt for some reason. You need to use
 epa.
 Principally, I have parameterized MIME settings for PGnus.

What does that mean? I'm confused as to why you seem so reluctant to use
epa as suggested by 2 or 3 different people. 

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-18 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?
According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
pretty well.

- -- 
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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-18 Thread Richard Riley
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
 Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?
 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

Except for the problems? :-)

Did you try the settings I posted for using epa? I know it wasn't
documented properly a while ago but I think its improved.

see:

message ID  : h8trc4$r6...@news.eternal-september.org


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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-18 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:45:47 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

What have you done to activate Mailcrypt then? You must have done
something to have your messages PGP-signed?

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?

 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

Well, as you seem not to be able to use PGP/MIME instead of Inline PGP,
I'd tend to disagree.


   :-),

Adam

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-18 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 How?
 Like this, I think I did not do anything more to configure MailCrypt.

 You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like it
 had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
 outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.
 That is everything I can give. I do not see any other interesting
 elements in my .gnus and .emacs.

 I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
 recommended way epg?
 According to http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/#download, the last
 version is of Sept. 26, 2002. You should be right, but I did not had
 any echoes about this. Everything that I can say is that it works
 pretty well.

 Except for the problems? :-)
It is not a real problem for me, but I was astonished about such
reactions concerning my signature.

 Did you try the settings I posted for using epa? I know it wasn't
 documented properly a while ago but I think its improved.
Yes, but it does not work with my settings. The configuration seems
really difficult, to make your code working in adequacy with my proper settings.

- -- 
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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/

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iisAn1XBO+3VZWuG4dNtjMQRBDtJg+AD
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-17 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 By what method do you make Gnus sign your messages?
I am using Mailcrypt.

Everything which is linked to PGP/MIME and signatures, in my .Gnus is:

;; MIME Settings for PGnus
 (require 'mm-util)
 (defun mm-read-charset (prompt)
   Return a charset.
   'iso-8859-15)
 (setq gnus-default-posting-charset (quote iso-8859-15))
 (setq gnus-article-decode-mime-words t)
 (setq gnus-article-decode-charset 1)
 (setq gnus-mime-view-all-parts t) ; View all the MIME parts in current article
 (setq gnus-ignored-mime-types
   '(text/x-vcard))
 (setq gnus-unbuttonized-mime-types nil) ; MIME type - no buttons when rendered
 (setq
 ;; Add buttons
gnus-treat-buttonize t
  ;; Add buttons to the head
  gnus-treat-buttonize-head 'head
  ;; Emphasize text
  gnus-treat-emphasize t
  ;; Fill the article
  gnus-treat-fill-article nil
;  ;; Remove carriage returns
  gnus-treat-strip-cr 'last
  ;; Hide headers
  gnus-treat-hide-headers 'head
;  ;; Hide boring headers
  gnus-treat-hide-boring-headers 'head
  ;; Hide the signature
gnus-treat-hide-signature nil
 ;; Hide cited text
;  gnus-treat-hide-citation nil
  ;; Strip PGP signatures
  gnus-treat-strip-pgp 'last
;  ;; Strip PEM signatures
  gnus-treat-strip-pem 'last
  ;; Highlight the headers
  gnus-treat-highlight-headers 'head
  ;; Highlight cited text
;  gnus-treat-highlight-citation 'last
  ;; Highlight the signature
  gnus-treat-highlight-signature 'last
  ;; Display the Date in UT (GMT)
  gnus-treat-date-ut nil
  ;; Display the Date in the local timezone
  gnus-treat-date-local nil
;; Display the date in the original timezone
  gnus-treat-date-original nil
  ;; Strip trailing blank lines
  gnus-treat-strip-trailing-blank-lines 'last
 ;; Strip leading blank lines
  gnus-treat-strip-leading-blank-lines 'last
  ;; Strip multiple blank lines
  gnus-treat-strip-multiple-blank-lines 'last
  ;; Strip all blank lines
  ;; gnus-treat-strip-blank-lines nil
  ;; Treat overstrike highlighting
  gnus-treat-overstrike 'last
  )
 ;;* show the text/plain part before the text/html part in multpart/alternative
 (require 'mm-decode)
;;;-- no way do compile with this
; ;;;--(push text/plain mm-alternative-precedence)
 ;;;--(setq mm-alternative-precedence text/plain)
 (message gnus.el: MIME initialized)
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it); For message-mode
; (Gnus)
(setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it); For message-mode ;;
; (Gnus)
(setq send-mail-command 'smtpmail-send-it); For mail-mode (Rmail)
;(setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server mail.teledisnet.be) unuseful if
;above defined



(setq message-signature 'my-signature)
(setq gnus-signature-separator '(^-- $))

Hope this helps.


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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-17 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Out of curiosity, did you try:

 (setq mml-default-sign-method pgpmime)

 ?
I just added this line in my .gnus file. Do you see a difference in my
signature, for the space?

Thanks.

- -- 
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See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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WEUAn3uHeEMaa1vrUk7Md0D1vps/RW6H
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-17 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:33:18 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 By what method do you make Gnus sign your messages?

 I am using Mailcrypt.

How?

You quoted a lot of stuff which to my untrained eyes didn't look like it
had anything to do with Mailcrypt or defining that you want all your
outgoing articles (Inline) pgp-signed.

I thought Mailcrypt was deprecated a long time ago? Isn't the currently
recommended way epg?


  Best regards,

Adam

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-17 Thread Richard Riley
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 By what method do you make Gnus sign your messages?
 I am using Mailcrypt.

 Everything which is linked to PGP/MIME and signatures, in my .Gnus is:

All I have is (emacs 23)

,
| (require 'auth-source)
| (require 'epa-file)
| (setq epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption t) ;;VERY Important
| (if (file-exists-p ~/.authinfo.gpg)
| (setq auth-sources '((:source ~/.authinfo.gpg :host t :protocol t)))
| (setq auth-sources '((:source ~/.authinfo :host t :protocol t
| 
| and in my gnus posting styles:
`

,
| (setq gnus-posting-styles `((.*
|   (name Richard Riley)
|   (from Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com)
|   (eval(setq gnushush-user-agent-header (quote real)))
|   (signature-file ~/.emacs.d/.sigs/rgr.sig)
|   (eval (setq mml2015-signers '(b39a104a)))
|   (organization aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot 
net
`

The mml2015-signers is the important bit. Now admittedly I don't bother
signing by default.

But lest see how this works signing now 






pgpgv6PSIcTmS.pgp
Description: PGP signature
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Hash: SHA1

a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:03:54 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

 Okay, but how can I manage to PGP otherwise than with MIME?
 I file a bug.

 I just used the menu (while composing a message):

  Attachments - Change Security Method - PGP/MIME
Do I have to choose Inline PGP?
- -- 
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hmm, according to your answers, the solution is less easy for me:
using Attachments  Change Security Method ,
using PGP/MIME is already ticked.

What on earth do I have to do to make it looking normal, without any
space after the --?

Thanks!

- -- 
Merciadri Luca
See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/

iEYEARECAAYFAkqv0vAACgkQM0LLzLt8MhzvuACgkmUUFjKPqQT8G4LeOnCKKvH9
k7gAnjKiQyuT3AiFk9j6iqgpAOzirJun
=ztxA
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-15 Thread Richard Riley
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Hmm, according to your answers, the solution is less easy for me:
 using Attachments  Change Security Method ,
 using PGP/MIME is already ticked.

 What on earth do I have to do to make it looking normal, without any
 space after the --?

 Thanks!

 --
 Merciadri Luca
 See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/


Out of curiosity, did you try:

(setq mml-default-sign-method pgpmime)

?
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:46:24 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

 Hmm, according to your answers, the solution is less easy for me:
 using Attachments  Change Security Method ,
 using PGP/MIME is already ticked.

 What on earth do I have to do to make it looking normal, without any
 space after the --?

By what method do you make Gnus sign your messages?


  Best regards,

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Okay, but how can I manage to PGP otherwise than with MIME?

I file a bug.

- -- 
Merciadri Luca
See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-14 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:03:54 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

 Okay, but how can I manage to PGP otherwise than with MIME?
 I file a bug.

I just used the menu (while composing a message):

 Attachments - Change Security Method - PGP/MIME


  Best regards,

Adam

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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-14 Thread Richard Riley
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

 On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:03:54 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

 Okay, but how can I manage to PGP otherwise than with MIME?
 I file a bug.

 I just used the menu (while composing a message):

  Attachments - Change Security Method - PGP/MIME


   Best regards,

 Adam

Possibly (and not verified)

(setq mml-default-sign-method pgpmime)
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-13 Thread Mark T. B. Carroll
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:

 Everybody tells me that my signature separator is --, but it needs
 to be -- . When writing my mails / my Usenet articles, it seems to
 be -- , as I can get one space further on the right of --, which is
 something I cannot do on the other lines of my signature.

 My signature separator is
 (setq gnus-signature-separator '(^-- $))

 Do I have to modify it to make it as these persons want it to be?

It seems as though they're wrong: Your signature separator seems to be
fine, at least for the message of yours to which I'm replying here.
(Though, I'd thought that variable is more to do with recognizing
separators in others' messages; I don't know if it's relevant here.) 
Can you point us to the message ID of a Usenet article of yours that got
complained about?

Mark
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-13 Thread Mark T. B. Carroll
Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 Do you have --$ set as a valud sig sep too?

Damn, yes - effectively,

gnus-signature-separator is a variable defined in `gnus-art.el'.
Its value is (^-- $ ^-- *$)

when I first glanced at it, I saw both of them were prefixed with the
--  and didn't notice the * would let the space be omitted, and then
when I copied and pasted from the article buffer to double-check, Gnus
put the correct thing - a --  - in the past buffer!

But now when I do C-u g, I see a weird separator of - -- .

I don't know what's going on. I think I should completely give up trying
to help people with Gnus though! I do honestly try to check what I say
before I say it but my batting average in this group so far has been
deleteriously execrable, for which I apologize. At least I've learned
that copying and pasting the text from the normal view of the article
body may not actually accurately reflect the as-posted article body. 
It may also help to explain confusion from Merciadri.

Mark
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-13 Thread Mark T. B. Carroll
Mark T. B. Carroll m...@ixod.org writes:

 put the correct thing - a --  - in the past buffer!

`paste', even. Gah.

Mark
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-13 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:32:56 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

 I still have no solution!

Could you try _not_ PGP-signing an article of yours to see if that could
be the cause?


  Best regards,

Adam, trying to sign this one, just to check.

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pgpLxnL75jomc.pgp
Description: PGP signature
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Re: My signature and its (missing) space

2009-09-13 Thread Adam Sjøgren
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Hash: SHA1

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:11:04 +0200, Adam wrote:

 On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:32:56 +0200, Merciadri wrote:
 I still have no solution!

 Could you try _not_ PGP-signing an article of yours to see if that could
 be the cause?

It looks like something eats the space when displaying the article in
Gnus if and only if you PGP-sign your articles using the Inline PGP
Security Method - as I have done in this article.

In the previous article I used the PGP/MIME setting, and the space
wasn't eaten when displayed.

So, Merciadri Luca, I recommend you start using PGP/MIME (sign=pgpmime)
instead of Inline PGP (sign=pgp) - and report the bug :-)


  Best regards,

Adam

- -- 
 Vegetarian progressive grindcore   Adam Sjøgren
 a...@koldfront.dk
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