Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On 10 April 2013 04:43, K. Frank kfrank2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List! I'm considering upgrading to Qt 5, so I downloaded: qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.0.1.zip Imagine my surprise when I unzipped the file and read the README file. I quote: Windows: Open a

Re: [Interest] QtCreator doxygen formatting

2013-04-10 Thread Nikolai Kosjar
On 03/14/2013 01:57 PM, Danny Price wrote: Is there a way to edit the formatting that Creator adds for Doxygen tags? Menu: Tools Options Text Editor Fonts Colors Color Scheme There is a Doxygen comment and Doxygen Tag item for formatting. Nikolai

[Interest] Linker Error While linking application(form of DLL) with Qt libs

2013-04-10 Thread Amogh Kudari
Hi All, I am new to Qt(and to this group) and I am currently trying to link my software component libs(propreitary) with Qt Libs to form a DLL which will further be used by my application. In doing so I am facing linker issues. I did check if the symbols are present in the libs and Yes

[Interest] Fwd: Linker Error While linking application(form of DLL) with Qt libs

2013-04-10 Thread Amogh Kudari
Hi All, I am new to Qt(and to this group) and I am currently trying to link my software component libs(propreitary) with Qt Libs to form a DLL which will further be used by my application. In doing so I am facing linker issues. I did check if the symbols are present in the libs and Yes

Re: [Interest] qt google drive query

2013-04-10 Thread Saurabh Patel
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Saurabh Patel saurabhpatel7...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I want to use qt-google drive in my application since I am building an export plugin for google drive in my project.So can you tell me by what time you expect project to be complete so that I can use

Re: [Interest] [Mingw-w64-public] Compiling Qt (4 or 5) with -std=c++11

2013-04-10 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
Op 21 mrt. 2013 22:31 schreef K. Frank kfrank2...@gmail.com het volgende: Hi Thiago! (I've taken the liberty of cross-posting this back to the mingw-w64-public list.) On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On quinta-feira, 21 de março de 2013

Re: [Interest] Qwt and upgrading to Qt 5

2013-04-10 Thread DeanNelson
I really didn't have any problems that I can remember. I had a bigger issue in my own code making the conversions from Qt4 to Qt5. Just make sure that you have greaterThan(QT_MAJOR_VERSION, 4): QT += widget in your *.pro file. That will allow you to still compile under Qt4. There are a

Re: [Interest] [Mingw-w64-public] Compiling Qt (4 or 5) with -std=c++11

2013-04-10 Thread Jonathan Liu
Hi Etienne, See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55898 for GCC bug report. It occurs with SJLJ exception handling on x86_64. You can check by compiling with -fno-exceptions and see if it debugging works. It can be resolved by using SEH exception handling in GCC 4.8.0 which should be

Re: [Interest] Qwt and upgrading to Qt 5

2013-04-10 Thread Sergey Popov
Hello Frank! My ex-colleagues asked me to help port qt4.7/qwt5 based app to qt5/qwt6.1 and I faced some problems. Some of them not fully solved yet. Some issues were connected with deprecated methods in qt 5 (like QString::toAscii) that I've used in my app, some issues were about missing

[Interest] Problem using QTcpSocket with large amounts of data

2013-04-10 Thread Christoph Kurz
Hi, I have a problem with my application crashing using QTcpSocket. Short version: My application crashes on QTcpSocket-readAll() with a glibc - double free or corruption-error when I try to receive large amounts of data (100 KB - 1 MB). A more detailed description can be found here:

[Interest] put a QWidget on QTableView

2013-04-10 Thread qt
hi all, i want to put a QWidget on QTableView, the QWidget is moveable, resizable. like the excel, sometimes you could insert a chart on a excel. thanks percilboy___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org

[Interest] Two single touch areas

2013-04-10 Thread Federico Brega
Hello everyone, I'd like to do a full screen application for multi-touch devices. It splits the screen (window) vertically, each half should track the position of a finger touching it. I'm using Qt Quick 1 because my only multi-touch device runs Android. The only way to do this, in my

[Interest] Prevent QGroupWidget from shrinking children below mimimum size

2013-04-10 Thread Etienne Sandré-Chardonnal
Dear interest users, I am designing a dock widget with some tools inside, mainly QLabels and Tool buttons. At first, I organised it with horizontal and vertical lines and nested layouts, with minimum sizes on my QLabels. This worked well. When I organize it with QGroupWidgets, they do not respect

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 19, Issue 26

2013-04-10 Thread Danny Price
No when I said 'formatting' I meant the doxygen tag formatting, not the font and color. Eg. ///! instead of /*! This seems to be hard-coded which is a shame. I'll add a bug to the tracker. Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:02:06 +0100 From: Nikolai Kosjar nikolai.kos...@digia.com Subject:

Re: [Interest] Problem using QTcpSocket with large amounts of data

2013-04-10 Thread Pritam Ghanghas
Hi Christoph, I dont know why your application is crashing. whenever I get such errors, the reason is mostly build related. The reply in forum by christian is really good, the right way to do it. Have you tried that. Regards, Pritam From:

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Wednesday 10 April 2013, K. Frank wrote: Hello List! I'm considering upgrading to Qt 5, so I downloaded: qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.0.1.zip Imagine my surprise when I unzipped the file and read the README file. I quote: Windows: Open a Windows SDK

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Rainer Wiesenfarth
Am 10.04.2013 13:45, schrieb Allan Sandfeld Jensen: Perl, Python and Ruby, that is just the webkit build dependencies. Not much Qt can do about that. So, I do not need those if I configure Qt without webkit? ... ah, I forgot, there is a -no-widgets configure option, but no -no-webkit... :-(

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Tomasz Siekierda
On 10 April 2013 14:14, Rainer Wiesenfarth rainer_wiesenfa...@trimble.com wrote: ... ah, I forgot, there is a -no-widgets configure option, but no -no-webkit... :-( Qt is now modular. Just delete the webkit directory and run configure, it should all work.

[Interest] Layout expanding not as I would like...

2013-04-10 Thread Etienne Sandré-Chardonnal
Dear interest users, Another question about layouts. I have a few labels in a small table layout. This layout is nested in a horizontal layout with a spacer on the right. The Xn, Yn and Zn label policies are set to Fixed as this will never change in the app. The N/A labels will be updated to

Re: [Interest] Layout expanding not as I would like...

2013-04-10 Thread Etienne Sandré-Chardonnal
The second image (showing the problem) is missing: http://imageshack.us/a/img577/7843/example2e.png Sorry, Etienne 2013/4/10 Etienne Sandré-Chardonnal etienne.san...@m4x.org Dear interest users, Another question about layouts. I have a few labels in a small table layout. This layout is

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On 10 April 2013 14:14, Rainer Wiesenfarth rainer_wiesenfa...@trimble.com wrote: So, I do not need those if I configure Qt without webkit? ... ah, I forgot, there is a -no-widgets configure option, but no -no-webkit... :-( Seems all other commercial customers (other than my collegues and

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread John Layt
On 10 April 2013 13:14, Rainer Wiesenfarth rainer_wiesenfa...@trimble.comwrote: So, I do not need those if I configure Qt without webkit? ... ah, I forgot, there is a -no-widgets configure option, but no -no-webkit... :-( On the contrary, as documented at

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
Hi, as commercial customer I currently DON'T UPGRADE to Qt 5.0 BECAUSE of these messy dependencies. WebKit and its dependencies are a serious SHOW STOPPER for our industrial applications - for desktop (widget based) and server backend. So I wait till I have enough free time to fix the messy

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
Hi, You still need Perl for building qtbase. Once you've got qtbase compiled, just compile the other modules you're interested in (qmake make). Like discussed last year in the mailing list and forums the dependency to Perl for building the core is a serious problem - none of the Windows

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Rainer Wiesenfarth
Am 10.04.2013 14:27, schrieb John Layt: On 10 April 2013 13:14, Rainer Wiesenfarth rainer_wiesenfa...@trimble.com mailto:rainer_wiesenfa...@trimble.com wrote: So, I do not need those if I configure Qt without webkit? ... ah, I forgot, there is a -no-widgets configure option, but no

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Alejandro Exojo
2013/4/10 Christian Dähn da...@asinteg.de: as commercial customer I currently DON'T UPGRADE to Qt 5.0 BECAUSE of these messy dependencies. WebKit and its dependencies are a serious SHOW STOPPER for our industrial applications - for desktop (widget based) and server backend. I don't get it.

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
I don't get it. WebKit is totally optional. What's the problem? Changes in WebKit from the 4.8 series? The 4.8 to 5.0 upgrade is quite an easy one for a *major* release. Just read the last messages carefully: Perl is needed to compile Qt base. And I (and othe commercial devs) MUST compile Qt

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Koehne Kai
-Original Message- From: interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org] On Behalf --no-webkit : Consider skipping qtwebkit by passing this option. [...] Would be great if configure --help would also know about

[Interest] CSS with QML

2013-04-10 Thread Sergey
Hi, Is it possible to add CSS file to QML in QT? -- Regards, Sergey ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Koehne Kai
-Original Message- From: interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Christian Dähn Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:08 PM To: interest Subject: Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Till Oliver Knoll
Am 10.04.2013 um 15:07 schrieb Christian Dähn da...@asinteg.de: No problem - I know and tested that already. I just have 100 _spreaded_ .pro files (means: there's no single root dir or root .pro file) - so this can't be done just adding one line ;-) Small hint: qmake supports include, so

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Koehne Kai wrote: -Original Message- From: interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Christian Dähn Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:08 PM To: interest Subject: Re:

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
Small hint: qmake supports include, so I general have a common *.pro file which does nothing more than define common #defines and compiler settings. You can refine this common into common_lib and common_exe, as to accomodate for different library and executable settings, if needed (both of

[Interest] qt5.1 install error on fedora 17

2013-04-10 Thread nicola
Hi, on fedora 17 32 bit, i installed qt5 dependencies, then ./configure (opensource license) make -j 4 but when i run make install i have: g++ -c -Wall -Wextra -Wreturn-type -fno-strict-aliasing -Wchar-subscripts -Wformat-security -Wreturn-type -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-switch

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Koehne Kai
-Original Message- From: interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:35 PM To: interest Subject: Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of

[Interest] QtMacExtras don't work outside QtMacExtras

2013-04-10 Thread Sensei
Dear all, after the new 5.0.2 update I was eager to give qt5 a try again, and see if QtMacExtras wasn't a bad addition. So I compiled and installed QtMacExtras, all went fine. I've tried from the command line one example, the macunifiedtoolbar one, *from the QtMacExtras directory*. It

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 14.38.14, Christian Dähn wrote: With Qt 4.8 commercial users get an out of the box working toolkit - Qt 5.x breaks that and introduces more error sources and unwanted (and I'm very sure: unneccessary) dependencies. Perl is required in the Qt build to

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 09.34.57, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd really like to know who thought that needing perl for the build was a good idea when not all the platforms have it as a base installed software package. Perl is a standard tool in most operating systems, which also

Re: [Interest] CSS with QML

2013-04-10 Thread Alan Alpert
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Sergey sh0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is it possible to add CSS file to QML in QT? No. You'll have to style using QML features (for example, defining a MyText{} with the properties set how you want and using that instead of Text{}) -- Alan Alpert

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Hood
On 4/10/2013 10:11 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 09.34.57, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd really like to know who thought that needing perl for the build was a good idea when not all the platforms have it as a base installed software package. Perl is a standard

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Till Oliver Knoll
Am 10.04.2013 um 15:44 schrieb Christian Dähn da...@asinteg.de: ... To prevent these discussions I strongly said spreaded projects Oops, sorry, my wrong! I took spread as in a huge project with 500 libs all spread around across network drives / totally unorganised / non-hierarchical ;)

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Cyrus Harrison
Hi Everyone, Q: Is perl needed for both the headers documentation? If the documentation was included three times in previous source releases, couldn't that issue be resolved or maybe the documentationcould be omitted if it consumes too much space? For those that don't have full reign over

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 10.50.27, Bob Hood wrote: On 4/10/2013 10:11 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 09.34.57, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd really like to know who thought that needing perl for the build was a good idea when not all the platforms

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
On 4/10/2013 10:11 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 09.34.57, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd really like to know who thought that needing perl for the build was a good idea when not all the platforms have it as a base installed software package. Perl is a

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Hood
On 4/10/2013 11:29 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 10.50.27, Bob Hood wrote: On 4/10/2013 10:11 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 09.34.57, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd really like to know who thought that needing perl for the build

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 09.34.57, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd really like to know who thought that needing perl for the build was a good idea when not all the platforms have it as a base installed software package. Perl is a

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 17.35.30, Scott Aron Bloom wrote: Is this really the tact you want to take?? Im sorry Thiago, I have a ton of respect for you, your code, and the work you have done with Qt. But I read your views on this thread as I don't care about how hard it is for

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 11.55.24, Bob Hood wrote: No doubt you meant what you said. However, it hardly changes the fact that the one omitted is rather ubiquitous, regardless of your personal feelings about it. I have no love for Microsoft (especially after Windows 8), and I hate

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 10.28.52, Cyrus Harrison wrote: Hi Everyone, Q: Is perl needed for both the headers documentation? If the documentation was included three times in previous source releases, couldn't that issue be resolved or maybe the documentationcould be omitted if

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 19, Issue 33

2013-04-10 Thread Danny Price
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:55:24 -0600 From: Bob Hood bho...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat! To: interest@qt-project.org Message-ID: 5165a78c.4010...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have no love

[Interest] Qt 4.8.4 support for Visual Studio 2012

2013-04-10 Thread Eric Clark
Hello All, I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not Qt would be building 4.8.4 or any future release of 4.x.x using Visual Studio 2012? I know that Qt 5.x has builds for Visual Studio 2012, but we are not quite ready to port to Qt 5 yet. Therefore, a build of Qt 4 using Visual Studio 2012

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 14.19.58, Michael Jackson wrote: rant Hey Thiago, Nothing personal here but leave your *personal* feelings out of the development environment. Yes we all have our favorites and we all have ones we don't like but at least *respect* the idea that Qt is

[Interest] Mac Extras

2013-04-10 Thread Danny Price
I cloned and built the Mac Extras project against Qt 5.0.1 (official binary) and none of the projects work. The unified toolbar project also cashes on startup. I'm using OSX 10.8 on a very new iMac so it's no my machine. Has anyone had any success with this project?

Re: [Interest] Qt 4.8.4 support for Visual Studio 2012

2013-04-10 Thread Eric Clark
-Original Message- From: interest-bounces+eclark=ara@qt-project.org [mailto:interest- bounces+eclark=ara@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:43 PM To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] Qt 4.8.4 support for Visual Studio

Re: [Interest] Qt 4.8.4 support for Visual Studio 2012

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 19.32.25, Eric Clark wrote: Hello All, I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not Qt would be building 4.8.4 or any future release of 4.x.x using Visual Studio 2012? I know that Qt 5.x has builds

Re: [Interest] Qt 4.8.4 support for Visual Studio 2012

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Miller
Our problem with this scenario is that our existing VSIntergration didn't work for VS2012. And the available newer VS-Addin doesn't support Qt4. This was supposed to be addressed but I don't believe it has. This is precisely the reason I'm still stuck on VS 2008.

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 11.55.24, Bob Hood wrote: No doubt you meant what you said. However, it hardly changes the fact that the one omitted is rather ubiquitous, regardless of your personal feelings about it. I have no love

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Sergio Ahumada
On 04/10/2013 10:05 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: And just because a majority download the installer does not mean ALL. It is YOUR JOB AS A Qt DEVELOPER/MAINTAINER to make MY life easier. That is your job. I think you made a mistake and sent this email to an opensource project's mailing list

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread BRM
Perhaps another solution: - Either someone can develop a script that can do it and repackage it so the a team can get their source from an internal team member, in which case Qt-Project may be (if it gets accepted) packages that tool; thus only one person has to have PERL installed. - (If

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Justin Ferguson
I think you made a mistake and sent this email to an opensource project's mailing list instead of to your Sysadmin. The right answer is not always popular and the popular answer isn't always right. Saying we are OSS isn't an adequate excuse for broken. On Apr 10, 2013 3:16 PM, Sergio Ahumada

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
On 04/10/2013 10:05 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: And just because a majority download the installer does not mean ALL. It is YOUR JOB AS A Qt DEVELOPER/MAINTAINER to make MY life easier. That is your job. I think you made a mistake and sent this email to an opensource project's mailing

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Sergio Ahumada
On 04/10/2013 10:25 PM, Christian Dähn wrote: On 04/10/2013 10:05 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: And just because a majority download the installer does not mean ALL. It is YOUR JOB AS A Qt DEVELOPER/MAINTAINER to make MY life easier. That is your job. I think you made a mistake

Re: [Interest] CSS with QML

2013-04-10 Thread Mark
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Alan Alpert 4163654...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Sergey sh0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is it possible to add CSS file to QML in QT? No. You'll have to style using QML features (for example, defining a MyText{} with the properties set how

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
Hi, first of all: I thought this topic is just seen important just by some few commercial devs - and I'm really surprised by Thiago's replies - which lead to some loss of his reputation in my mind. Ok, now I know he's just working for less of half the years with Qt / on different platforms like

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Strickland
On 2013/04/10 10:05 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: And just because a majority download the installer does not mean ALL. It is YOUR JOB AS A Qt DEVELOPER/MAINTAINER to make MY life easier. That is your job. Yeah Mike, get him fired for not doing his job! -- Alex

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Justin Ferguson
And yes: The best way would be a mail to the commercial support... I've always had a severe distaste for those sorts of arguments that turn OSS/FS into a form of semi-crippled shareware where if i want it to work i have to pay; which often enough turns into travel insurance: insured against all

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Alex Strickland wrote: On 2013/04/10 10:05 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: And just because a majority download the installer does not mean ALL. It is YOUR JOB AS A Qt DEVELOPER/MAINTAINER to make MY life easier. That is your job. Yeah Mike, get him fired for not

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
In this special case he is right because he addresses Thiago (who works for Digia and is partly responsible for the problems we commercial customers have to suffer with the new Qt 5 policies). And yes: The best way would be a mail to the commercial support... In this special case is

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 19, Issue 35

2013-04-10 Thread Danny Price
Sadly none of the devs at Digia seems to have experiences with IT and project structures of industrial and enterprise structures / companies - that leads to such biased discussions... like a fight between commercial (Windows) customers and the Qt devs (Linux/Mac users). That's funny

Re: [Interest] CSS with QML

2013-04-10 Thread Josh Faust
Qml does not use webkit ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
As much as I just went off the deep end on Thiago let's look at it from the Qt devs point of view. Say they really do want to get rid of the perl thing and rewrite what the perl script did in C++ so it can be compiled during the configure process like qmake. Who actually is going to step up to

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Strickland
On 2013/04/10 10:36 PM, Dirk Hohndel wrote: Good luck with that. I know it's the lowest form of wit, but an attempt at wit it was. -- Regards Alex ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Justin Ferguson
For me personally i don't overly see perl as an issue, on that side of things i agree with Thiago, what are you doing compiling qt without the proper tools? For me, its more akin to, okay we remove perl and then it's the next issue and then the next and so on. They loathe windows, that's the

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
Hi Dirk, hi Thiago, I already was pointed to my mistake and I apologize my misapprehension recognizing Thiago as a Digia fellow. (One could interprete my mistake as a compliment for his high reputation here in the Qt community.) Best Regards, Chris___

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On 10 April 2013 22:27, Christian Dähn da...@asinteg.de wrote: Our customers (where some devs work) have 14.000 clients and just a handful admins. So each client having special installs or special access rights must be maintained by these few people - so maybe you can imagine how the react

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
Has anyone anywhere considered using the Perl-C++ conversion tools to create the executable? Just like Qt ships the configure.bat ship it as well... Scott -Original Message- From: interest-bounces+scott.bloom=onshorecs@qt-project.org

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Justin Ferguson wrote: For me personally i don't overly see perl as an issue, on that side of things i agree with Thiago, what are you doing compiling qt without the proper tools? The point is that I did not NEED perl to compile Qt 4.x based on the sources

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread André Pönitz
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:02:09PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 11.55.24, Bob Hood wrote: No doubt you meant what you said. However, it hardly changes the fact that the one omitted is rather ubiquitous, regardless of your personal feelings about it. I

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Christian Dähn
For me personally i don't overly see perl as an issue, on that side of things i agree with Thiago, what are you doing compiling qt without the proper tools? The point is that I did not NEED perl to compile Qt 4.x based on the sources downloaded from the Qt-project site. So I had all the

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 19, Issue 35

2013-04-10 Thread Koehne Kai
From: interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia@qt-project.org [interest-bounces+kai.koehne=digia.com@qt- Sadly none of the devs at Digia seems to have experiences with IT and project structures of industrial and enterprise structures / companies - that leads to such biased discussions...

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Justin Ferguson
Ack! Now its a complete scripting language (Perl) for just a few headers+docs and tomorrow? Ruby? Python? more libs? Starting introducing one new dependency usually ends up in the next new lib/tool and a further one and so on... without argument; my entry into this thread was entirely based

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On 10 April 2013 23:08, Christian Dähn da...@asinteg.de wrote: The clients is the sum of all end-user and dev machines. In usual cases there are only a few devs and many thousand end-users. But: Both - the devs and end-users - must use the nearly exactly same hard- and software environment

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Etienne Sandré-Chardonnal
Just for me to know before I try to migrate to Qt 5 : with Qt 4 I simply unzipped strawberry-perl in a folder and added the perl folder to my path. Will this work with Qt 5? Etienne ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Hood
On 4/10/2013 2:52 PM, Justin Ferguson wrote: Support will always suck for that platform. Please don't make disturbing statements like that. Ifthat were actually true, then it hugely discounts Qt as an option in development pipelines, whether or not it provided commercial support. I would not

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Justin Ferguson
On Apr 10, 2013 4:22 PM, Bob Hood bho...@comcast.net wrote: On 4/10/2013 2:52 PM, Justin Ferguson wrote: Support will always suck for that platform. Please don't make disturbing statements like that. Ifthat were actually true, then it hugely discounts Qt as an option in development

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread andy fillebrown
It is also good to remember that if one person is saying it then ten others are thinking it. I, too, am not happy with the dependencies added for Qt 5, and I have not been happy about it for some time. I've bit my tongue about it because I don't consider my opinion on the matter all that

[Interest] Apologies on the bloat thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
First of all, let me apologise for my behaviour in the thread on dependency bloat. I've re-read my first reply and it was clearly out of line. And the number of off-ML messages I got also indicates that. So, my deepest apologies for letting my personal feelings and frustrations with Windows

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the bloat thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
Thank you for your honest and open reply. Do you have a specification for what the perl script is required to do? Is there a way for a non Qt developer, ie not one of you guys, one of us :), to setup their qt environment into the bootstrap world. Ie, build the tool so it could be built the

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the bloat thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Justin Ferguson
hi, On Apr 10, 2013 5:50 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: First of all, let me apologise for my behaviour in the thread on dependency bloat. I've re-read my first reply and it was clearly out of line. And the number of off-ML messages I got also indicates that. same.

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Malyushytskyy
* we expect that most people who build Qt from sources are Qt developers themselves (majority of users will download binaries and the stats prove it); Thiago, I afraid your expectations are wrong. My statement is totally based on my experience. Most of my Qt life I was a Qt commercial

[Interest] QPlainTextEdit and a Unicode file

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
I have a lovely customer, who has embedded Chinese text into an otherwise straight ascii file (imagine a C++ file with a Chinese name in comments. Now, if he loads it up in a unicode aware editor on HIS machine, it views correctly (his machine is setup with Chinese as the locale and language).

Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat!

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 16.05.40, Michael Jackson wrote: And just because a majority download the installer does not mean ALL. It is YOUR JOB AS A Qt DEVELOPER/MAINTAINER to make MY life easier. That is your job. Hi Mike This thread is getting overheated... I with most of what

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 19, Issue 35

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 21.39.54, Danny Price wrote: Sadly none of the devs at Digia seems to have experiences with IT and project structures of industrial and enterprise structures / companies - that leads to such biased discussions... like a fight between commercial

Re: [Interest] Layout expanding not as I would like...

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Malyushytskyy
It might be better also to attach ui file, so people can really see the source. Possible problems as I can guess: - You do not have widget (top) layout which created. If this is a case in designer click outside red boxes and click pn create vertical layout icon. - You are trying to re-size

Re: [Interest] Layout expanding not as I would like...

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Malyushytskyy
It might be better also to attach ui file, so people can really see the source. Possible problems as I can guess: - You do not have widget (top) layout which created. If this is a case in designer click outside red boxes and click pn create vertical layout icon. - You are trying to re-size

Re: [Interest] Layout expanding not as I would like...

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Malyushytskyy
It might be better also to attach ui file, so people can really see the source. Possible problems as I can guess: - You do not have widget (top) layout which created. If this is a case in designer click outside red boxes and click pn create vertical layout icon. - You are trying to re-size

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 19, Issue 41

2013-04-10 Thread Danny Price
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 16:54:51 -0700 From: Alex Malyushytskyy alexmal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat! To: Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com Cc: interest@qt-project.org interest@qt-project.org

Re: [Interest] Layout expanding not as I would like...

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Malyushytskyy
I am sorry for multiple posts. Something happened to my gmail and it was not shoring any reaction on Send button click, and I was clicking and clicking On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Alex Malyushytskyy alexmal...@gmail.comwrote: It might be better also to attach ui file, so people can

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the bloat thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 23.03.53, Scott Aron Bloom wrote: Do you have a specification for what the perl script is required to do? Use the source, Luke! ? :-) Basically, it needs to scan all the *.h files in a given directory and partially interpret the C++ class declarations in

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the bloat thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
Thanks.. Ill volunteer to look into creating something for it... Ill have time this weekend... Now can anyone help with my Why cant I view the Chinese file in QPlainTextEdit issue I had posted earlier... Going nuts here... Scott -Original Message- From:

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