On Jan 9, 2015 10:43 AM, François Laupretre franc...@tekwire.net wrote:
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De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
Is there a technical problem with code located outside of
definitions, or is it
just a convention (PSR already contains this rule) ? I
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Fred Emmott f...@fredemmott.co.uk wrote:
On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:18 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
That's very much the case. One extension, one install. It doesn't
matter whether some of the extension is written in C, and other parts in
PHP. HHVM is
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
We solved some of the other problems by only allowing definitions, no
side-effects - classes, constants, namespaces etc. We do not allow code
outside of a function body here.
Yes, we will have to do that, no matter what we choose. I am
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:35 PM, François Laupretre franc...@tekwire.net wrote:
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
We solved some of the other problems by only allowing definitions, no
side-effects - classes, constants, namespaces etc. We do not allow code
outside of a function
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Adam Harvey ahar...@php.net wrote:
I'm going to be a bit hazier than normal in this e-mail, for which I
apologise. People who know who I work for, you can probably guess the
parameters of the NDA I'm trying not to break here.
On 8 January 2015 at 04:38,
Hello
PHP 5.6.5 RC1 is available for testing.
You can download it from
*http://downloads.php.net/tyrael/ http://downloads.php.net/tyrael/*
The Windows binaries are available at http://windows.php.net/qa/
This release contains a number of bugfixes.
For the list of bugfixes that you can target
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De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
Is there a technical problem with code located outside of definitions, or
is it
just a convention (PSR already contains this rule) ? I understand the
problems it poses in HHVM, but I don't see why we should check
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 06:30:05PM +0100, Julien Pauli wrote:
Hello
PHP 5.5.21 RC1 is available for testing.
You can download it from
https://downloads.php.net/~jpauli/
The Windows binaries are available at http://windows.php.net/qa/
This release contains a number of bugfixes.
For
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:38 PM, The Doctor doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
wrote:
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 06:30:05PM +0100, Julien Pauli wrote:
Hello
PHP 5.5.21 RC1 is available for testing.
You can download it from
https://downloads.php.net/~jpauli/
The Windows binaries are
Hi,
I just created the RFC :
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/cyclic-replace
I tried to include everything we agreed upon. Tell me if I missed something.
Please note that the current PR does not implement the whole RFC. You may
review the RFC while I update the code.
Please also give me your opinion
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
There is currently no way to install an extension and a PHP library
package at the same time. pecl can't install PHP libraries, and
Why it needs to be at the same time? I don't see any use case where
it would matter if you run one command or
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:14 PM, François Laupretre franc...@tekwire.net
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De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
... here,
it is proposed to bundle scripts that will be executed at runtime like
any
other script, except that nothing can be done with them, not even disable
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Pierre Joye wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:14 PM, François Laupretre franc...@tekwire.net
wrote:
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
... here, it is proposed to bundle scripts that will be executed at
runtime like any other script, except that nothing
You are not forced to use the glue code, its just always available. That is
what an extension is about, always available code. An option would of
course be to not use the extension if you don't need it.
Developers can feel free to use the low level API just like PHP also ships
high and low level
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Pierre Joye wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:14 PM, François Laupretre franc...@tekwire.net
wrote:
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
... here, it is proposed to bundle scripts that will
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
There is currently no way to install an extension and a PHP library
package at the same time. pecl can't install PHP libraries, and
Why it needs to be at the same time? I
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Le 04/01/2015 12:52, Benjamin Eberlei a écrit :
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/extension_prepend_files
Sorry but definitively seems a bad idea.
If you want a pure-php library, provide as one.
If this library need an extension, just describe this in
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, François Laupretre wrote:
De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
... here,
it is proposed to bundle scripts that will be executed at runtime like any
other script, except that nothing can be done with them, not even disable
them if not required (like using
hi,
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.de wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:14 PM, François Laupretre franc...@tekwire.net
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De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com]
... here,
it is proposed to bundle scripts that will be executed at runtime
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
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Le 04/01/2015 12:52, Benjamin Eberlei a écrit :
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/extension_prepend_files
Sorry but definitively seems a bad idea.
If you want a pure-php
On 08/01/15 00:50, Pierre Joye wrote:
What is not clear to me is the question of packaging/versioning/deployment.
If you consider the PHP glue code is modified more often than the C code,
which will be the most frequent case, how do you version/distribute partial
packages ? or do you
On 08.01.15 02:14, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 17:01 -0500, Mark Montague wrote:
I'd like to start an RFC (see the draft proposal at the end of this
message) for adding
journald support to PHP on Linux systems that use systemd. This message
is to
measure reaction to
On 8 January 2015 at 01:39, Markus Fischer mar...@fischer.name wrote:
On 08.01.15 02:14, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 17:01 -0500, Mark Montague wrote:
I'd like to start an RFC (see the draft proposal at the end of this
message) for adding
journald support to PHP on Linux
On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:18 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
That's very much the case. One extension, one install. It doesn't
matter whether some of the extension is written in C, and other parts in
PHP. HHVM is *all* about this. Making use of C where you need it, and
otherwise just
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Le 08/01/2015 18:30, Julien Pauli a écrit :
PHP 5.5.21 RC1 is available for testing.
I notice Horde_Auth test suite start to fail.
Seems related to
. Upgraded crypt_blowfish to version 1.3. (Leigh)
I'm really surprised by the results :)
I'll try to find time for bigint on next week and play with it a bit.
Thanks. Dmitry.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:
Hey Dmitry,
On 23 Oct 2014, at 16:22, Dmitry Stogov dmi...@zend.com wrote:
I’ve so far been
Quoting Benjamin Eberlei :
To be honest, I don't see the use case of shipping optional PHP code inside
an extension. As the user of an extension I want all the functions/classes
to be available all the time, no matter if the extension developer wrote
everything in C or in PHP.
Quoting
I'm going to be a bit hazier than normal in this e-mail, for which I
apologise. People who know who I work for, you can probably guess the
parameters of the NDA I'm trying not to break here.
On 8 January 2015 at 04:38, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.de wrote:
+1 on everything I snipped
Remi,
That test is bogus and is testing undocumented functionality.
All of the documented algorithms:
http://php.net/manual/en/function.crypt.php either start with a `$` or
require salts to be in the alphabet ./0-9A-Za-z
So the fact that this worked before was a bug.
The reason that the
On 8 January 2015 at 10:24, Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Is this expected ?
Notice the diff between (see attachement) :
- - 5.4.35 and 5.4.36 show 5 changes,
- - 5.5.20 and 5.521RC1 show only 2
- - 5.6.4 and 5.6.5RC1 show only 2
Since you mentioned on IRC that this seemed
Hi,
I've updated the implementation and now it's even more consistent (it
shares code for return and argument type hinting).
https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/986/files
The implementation misses support for reflection.
I think, it doesn't make a lot of sense to introduce Reflection support
Good evening,
Normally I just reply to [VOTE] threads when a vote ends, but Pierre said
making a separate thread in future would be a good idea, and I see no real harm
in it. This way it’ll catch the attention of people who don’t read all replies
to a thread.
I’m actually closing this vote a
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