Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-25 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Two wrongs don't make a right Paul On 9/24/07, Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Walker, You mention respect. Where is the respect the IBOC stations show other stations on adjacents? The big boys just turn it on and the noise is there. 73, Patrick

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-25 Thread kevin redding
Paul, Stations cheat. Case in point... WBCA 1110 Bay Minette, AL. They have been fined multiple times for it. Kevin On Sep 24, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: Two wrongs don't make a right ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-25 Thread Neil Kazaross
of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting Paul, Stations cheat. Case in point... WBCA 1110 Bay Minette, AL. They have been fined multiple times for it. Kevin On Sep 24, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Paul B

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-25 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW
--- kevin redding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Stations cheat. Case in point... WBCA 1110 Bay Minette, AL. They have been fined multiple times for it. That's for sure. Willful and repeated. One afternoon I home on a day off and the phone rang. Looking at the Caller ID it was the

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-25 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Yeha, stations cheat.. but it doesn't make it right just because your neighbor down the street does it. paul On 9/25/07, kevin redding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Stations cheat. Case in point... WBCA 1110 Bay Minette, AL. They have been fined multiple times for it. Kevin

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-25 Thread Michael Hawkins
Powell, I know what you mean. I had been commenting to FCC about an FM pirate, and one day I got a phone call. I looked at Caller ID and also felt like I came to attention. The pirate's gone too! Mike Powell E. Way III W4OPW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- kevin redding wrote:

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-25 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
When I worked at another station, we once got a phone call around 11pm at night from a (202) 418 area code/prefix which is the FCC. We got the same call about a month later from the same number. Apparently tower lights were out on the 800+ foot tall tower of our FM sister station in another

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-25 Thread Patrick Martin
When I worked at KVAS Astoria as a kid in the early 70s, I just missed an FCC visit (In those days they did not have to call for an appt like today). Fortunately the boss and owner of the station was there and Chuck ran a tight ship, so no issues. But I can understand as a young person the FCC

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting ...

2007-09-24 Thread Paul LaFreniere
Have we become so politically correct now that we can't call a spade a spade? Of course there are stations that cheat. And probably the easiest ones to determine are the HSFB cheaters. I'm not complaining about that. I've managed to log a few new ones because of it. I wish more stations

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting ...

2007-09-24 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
So, you want stations to cheat and break the law just for your benefit? great idea! Are you going to pay their fine when they get nabbed by the FCC? And you said, Why should we let a lurker from some other list determine what is said on the DX lists? It's called RESPECT. No matter who is or

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting ...

2007-09-24 Thread Patrick Martin
Paul, That is how this country was built, on breaking the rules. If everyone would have abided by the law, we would still be owned by the British. My feeling on IBOC, anything goes to put a stop to it. As far as fines go, protest those too. Refuse to pay them. The FCC does not have the power to

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-24 Thread Paul LaFreniere
Paul B Walker, Jr. wrote: Are you going to pay their fine when they get nabbed by the FCC? No. And they probably aren't either, since the FCC doesn't seem to be in any hurry to nab anyone. It's called RESPECT. No matter who is or isnt on the list, we need to respect others, snip Respect has

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting ...

2007-09-24 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
What wonderful ideas Patrick, it's a good thing you don't own any radio stations or govern this country. I'm far from perfect, but cheating and purposuly breaking the laws just because the other guy is won't solve anything Paul On 9/24/07, Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, That

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting

2007-09-24 Thread Patrick Martin
Paul Walker, You mention respect. Where is the respect the IBOC stations show other stations on adjacents? The big boys just turn it on and the noise is there. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting ...

2007-09-24 Thread Patrick Martin
Paul, That is exactly what the Germans did and you know what Hitler did a few years later. I am not for breaking laws, but if push gets to shove, then somethings gotta give. Our country has become a bunch of whips. No one stands up for what they think. They go and hide in the corner. In the

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments

2007-09-23 Thread Bob Foxworth
Very good comments. But both the IRCA NRC lists are indeed Googled. 10 minutes after I post something on either list, it ends up on broadcasting lists per several engineers I know. They see and read all about us and what we hear and report. That is another reason I try to Patrick This

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments

2007-09-23 Thread Michael Hawkins
I didn't see a reference to a specific list, so maybe hard-core-dx is the list he's referring to, and maybe not. It is a broadcasting list, but without specifics its hard to tell. Mike Bob Foxworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This implies either (1) that the DXer posting to a DX list has

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments

2007-09-23 Thread Russ Edmunds
--- Bob Foxworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DXer re-posting that material to a broadcasting list - or - (2) that a reader of a broadcasting list (there is Broadcast, RT and the AF that I know of) is reading the DX list and importing comments from the DX list onto the broadcasting list.

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments

2007-09-23 Thread Chuck Hutton
Patrick: I beg to differ. First, Google does not have any hits for direct posts to the IRCA list. (Unless they are kindly eliminating hits for Patrick Martin IRCA and Chuck Hutton IRCA.) Second, Google does not crawl the net and retrieve new material every 10 minutes. Third, the broadcast

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments

2007-09-23 Thread Bob Foxworth
I didn't see a reference to a specific list, so maybe hard-core-dx is the list he's referring to, and maybe not. It is a broadcasting list, but without specifics its hard to tell. Mike Bob Foxworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This implies either (1) that the DXer posting to a DX list has

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments

2007-09-23 Thread Michael Hawkins
Newest I could find were two posts from yesterday. Give it time... Chuck Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to be proven wrong by having you show me a Google hit for this post 10 minutes after it appears. - Check out the hottest 2008 models

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments

2007-09-23 Thread Patrick Martin
Bob, I remember staying at Kona on the Big Island and the gal at the desk at the motel was from Gearhart OR (2 miles North of Seaside), so yopu never know where the World might lead you. As faras Google, I don't remember the list that the engineer forwarded to me, but it was some Broadcast

Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments

2007-09-23 Thread Patrick Martin
Chuck, I wish I would have kept the e mail that he sent me, but I never thought it would spark any interest several years later. I never doubted the comment, so I never checked it out. But the engineer knew all about us, viewing the posts that were both on the IRCA NRC lists. I do remember