Re: [The Java Posse] Any thoughts on Swift?

2014-06-04 Thread Kevin Wright
No, ARC is emphatically *not* garbage collection. It's not new either, Objectionable-C does it, as does auto_ptr in C++ There's a pretty accurate summary of the language on quora: http://www.quora.com/How-does-Swift-Apple-Programming-Language-compare-with-other-modern-programming-languages

Re: [The Java Posse] Any thoughts on Swift?

2014-06-04 Thread BoD
Ok thanks for this link, interesting stuff there indeed :) I guess I'll google a bit to see if I can understand the difference between ARC and a GC. -- BoD On 04/06/2014 10:23, Kevin Wright wrote: No, ARC is emphatically *not* garbage collection. It's not new either, Objectionable-C does

Re: [The Java Posse] Any thoughts on Swift?

2014-06-04 Thread Carl Jokl
I wonder about Swift in terms of performance of apps. Traditionally Games companies use C++ for their games engines and on iOS just use the minimum Objective-C to act as the glue to the operating system. For all Objective-C apps then yes Swift will be a big improvement but for those where it was

Re: [The Java Posse] Any thoughts on Swift?

2014-06-04 Thread Cédric Beust ♔
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote: Though I'm upset that the most popular answer fails to mention the complete lack of features for tackling concurrency! I'm unconvinced there is any point to syntactic support for concurrency. Support concurrency in

Re: [The Java Posse] Any thoughts on Swift?

2014-06-04 Thread Josh Berry
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Carl Jokl carl.j...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder about Swift in terms of performance of apps. Traditionally Games companies use C++ for their games engines and on iOS just use the minimum Objective-C to act as the glue to the operating system. For all Objective-C