Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread David Ferrin
Actually it is called windows mail which was introduced in Vista and then promptly abandon. Yes it is almost the same as outlook express and it can be enabled in windows 7 the fact is to do it requires adding a few keys to your registry and replacing a DLL file or so. I have done it and the files

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

2013-02-24 Thread inthaneelf
if anyone wishes to revert to ff 16 I do believe I have the installer file here for it still. I tend to keep them JIC elf -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:41 AM To:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

2013-02-24 Thread Sharon Gosling
I would very much like the link to the Firefox 16. As to the statement made that there is not much difference between accessibility with IE 9 and FF I have found many. Just the other day I tried to sign up for the free samples on doctoroz.com and there was no space to fill in any info with IE

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Flor Lynch
To be clearer: Windows Mail is the Windows Vista mail client. Windows Live Mail is the windows 7 mail client. Two different clients. I don't know if the outlook Express tweak will work on Windows7, as it was designed for windows Vista. and the modern Windows Live Mail is ribbons rather than

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Flor Lynch
Marilyn, there is still an alternative or keyboard interface with Windows8. As I don't have Windows8, I'll let those who actually have windows8 comment further. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

2013-02-24 Thread Gerald Levy
I think your security concerns over Firefox 3.6 are overblown. I use it regularly and have never encountered any security issues. It is certainly more stable and reliable than the higher versions of Firefox. Gerald - Original Message - From: Sharon Gosling sillygoo...@gmail.com

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Angela Delicata
No, Outlook Express won't work on Windoss 7. Angela from Italy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Gerald Levy
As an inveterate XP user, let me see if I understand all the accessible email clients that work with Windows 7 and 8. 1. Windows Live Mail: Introduced in Vista, it is most similar to Outlook Express, but was dropped in Windows 7, which does not come with any email client of its own. But

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Flor, I have tried the Windows Mail tweak in Windows 8, with less than desirable results. Interestingly enough, the Windows Mail folder is in Windows 8, same as Windows 7. HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Gerald, Your close, and this is why there is so much confusion. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom continues to give some of their products similar names. Windows Mail, was introduced in Vista, as a replacement for Outlook Express, and that was the end of it. Windows Live Mail, has been

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Sugar
Hi Marilyn I am with you in how you are feeling right now I have jaws 11, IE 7,xp windows office 2010, and thinking about taking that step myself..smile sugar ~Peace Be, Sugar I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.

[JAWS-Users] Subject line Topic - WAS: RE: Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Annette Carr
How did we get from Cost of JAWS to Windows mail. Oh I get it, the subject line did not change along with the topic being discussed. Mr. Ferrin, I hope the list moderator is noting your failure to change the subject line to match the topic. Smile! Annette -Original Message- From:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Steve
Be advised, if you run the Win 7 registry tweak for Windows Mail as Scorpio suggests, there are known issues where Windows 7 may fail to update certain updates. This particularly happened with the SP1 group of updates. - Original Message - From: Scorpio scorpio...@gmail.com To:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Scorpio
Hi Gerald, You have the Windows Live Mail and the Windows Mail switched around in their explanations. The fact is, Windows Mail is the mail application that most resembles Outlook Express, and aside from the relatively few differences I mentioned in my previous post, all methods for accessing

Re: [JAWS-Users] Subject line Topic - WAS: RE: Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Rick Justice
Thank you Annette, point taken. I' too am guilty of the same. Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Annette Carr amca...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Subject line Topic - WAS: RE: Cost of upgrading jaws?

[JAWS-Users] E-Mail Clients With Jaws

2013-02-24 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Gerald, You have the Windows Live Mail and the Windows Mail switched around in their explanations. The fact is, Windows Mail is the mail application that most resembles Outlook Express, and aside from the relatively few differences I mentioned in my previous post, all methods for accessing

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Scorpio
Hi Steve, I haven't run into those problems. Do you have an example of an update that failed to update? Not to be difficult, but I'm curious why I didn't receive such a problem with my updates. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Steve
Yes, Windows 8 is useable via keyboard. Retail stores are pushing Win 8, but Windows 7 boxes are available on-line or probably upon request at other retailers. Windows 8 is not as easy to use in my opinion as Windows 7, and there are still quite a few programs that don't work with Win 8 yet.

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Steve
Yes, you've made it worse. You reversed the programs Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. Windows Mail works in Vista, Windows Live Mail is for Win 7. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:48

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Steve
Yes, google it, particularly as it applies to Win 7 pre-SP1. - Original Message - From: Scorpio scorpio...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws? Hi Steve, I haven't run into those

[JAWS-Users] Just a thank you for the info for windows 7 and jaws

2013-02-24 Thread Sugar
Hello all I just wanted to thank those who gave me some insight on why I really should think about changing over to windows 7, so on my behalf I thank you so much for your patience, understanding and consideration to listen to me. it is truely appreciated, as I am not so knowloedgeable as some

[JAWS-Users] jaws upgrade and email clients

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Meyer
Dear steve, Scorpio,Gerald,Rick,david, Flor and Angela; thanks for all your input both with upgrades information and the various email clients. lots to ponder.Guess as theyears go on the more complex our choices get and the programs too. Scott For answers to frequently asked

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Marilyn Walker
David, so, if I upgrade to win 7, I can use windows live mail without issues? Or should I just go to win 8, use windows live mail and move on with my life? I'm beginning to think that I need a masters in computer science to send e mails to my friends! It is ridiculous to confront choices

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread Marilyn Walker
Gerald, this helps , but actually the choices all seem to have glitches and frustrating choices. I wish microsoft would continue supporting xp and I would pay to take advantage of that. Marilyn - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Just a thank you for the info for windows 7 and jaws

2013-02-24 Thread Marilyn Walker
I join SUgar in thanksing all who chimed in on this topic. I'm leaning toward just getting it over with and going with win 7 and wlm while win 7 is still available. My hardware came with my xp in 2004 so maybe I'll just buy a new setup and continue witih my monitor, keyboard, scanner and

Re: [JAWS-Users] Subject line Topic - WAS: RE: Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-24 Thread David Ferrin
Obviously my bad, I'll put myself on moderated status, but that will just give me more work approving my own messages. I could always retire, now there's an idea. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original

[JAWS-Users] email clients

2013-02-24 Thread David Ferrin
You can use live mail from XP forward. So far as issues are concerned that is another matter, but they aren't operating system specific so far as I am aware, it's the program itself that has problems like no status line the last I heard. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that

[JAWS-Users] Bullets for Word

2013-02-24 Thread Kevin C
I have written earlier a couple of hours ago to see how to apply bullets in a Word document that is Microsoft Word 2010. I have seen answers to a couple of questions, but not mine. I get frustrated that certain questions get answered and some do not. I have had to write two or three

[JAWS-Users] Shortcut keystrokes for mininmise and maximise

2013-02-24 Thread DERICK GREEFF
Dear List Can someone please tell me what the shortcut keys are for minimising and maximising files?I use Windows Xp and JAWS 10 Thank you for your kind assistance DERICK. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets for Word

2013-02-24 Thread David Ferrin
Feel free to leave if you wish. There are over 600 people on here and it is a Sunday afternoon so it is reasonable to think that not everybody is home waiting to answer there email. Help more often than not arrives for everybody assuming that somebody out there knows the answer to the given

Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets for Word

2013-02-24 Thread Denny Huff
You can do a control shift l to invoke bullets. Press enter twice to turn off. Encouragement For the Journey Featuring Southern and Country Gospel Music Every Sunday morning at 8:00 AM on KLPW AM 1220. Listen live at, www.klpw.com Show archives available at: www.GatewayForTheBlind.Com/audio

Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets for Word

2013-02-24 Thread justin williams
Use Shift control l. It will automatically put them at the beginning of the line. If you want to apply them to several lines, then Select down with your shift down arrow, and when you have finished selecting what you want, then hit shift control l. -Original Message- From:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets for Word

2013-02-24 Thread Kimsan
Look in the home ribbon or CTRL shift l... Kimsan Song kimsans...@aol.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin C Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users]

Re: [JAWS-Users] Shortcut keystrokes for mininmise and maximise

2013-02-24 Thread Flor Lynch
Alt+space x = Maximize. Alt+space n = Minimize. - Original Message - From: DERICK GREEFF zs1...@cybersmart.co.za To: JAWS Mailing List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Shortcut keystrokes for mininmise and maximise Dear

Re: [JAWS-Users] email clients

2013-02-24 Thread Flor Lynch
David: on my Win7 Toshiba if if in Windows Live Mail, I press JAWSkey+PageDown, the read status line, I get the usual status line information, number of unread messages in the folder I'm in, etc. It could be the vews people are using that enable or disable this. - Original Message -

Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets for Word

2013-02-24 Thread Mike B.
Hi Kevin, I for 1, have yet to see your post about bullits. This is the only post from you I've received today. If you notice the replies that are here now are not replying to any question you've posted about bullits but, replying to your complaint about no one answering your question you

[JAWS-Users] Jumbled forms

2013-02-24 Thread Suey
I am trying to fill in a payment form on a website and jaws is getting all jumbled up. This happened with jaws 12 but I assumed that 14 would be better. As I tab from one edit box to another either using E, F, or just tabbing, the labels are getting all mixed up and it is taking me round in

Re: [JAWS-Users] Bullets for Word

2013-02-24 Thread Annette Carr
Kevin, I do not see your earlier message, but even if it was in my Inbox, I would not have seen it until now. I'm not able to sit by my computer all day and night waiting to respond to messages when they come in. There are many ways of accomplishing turning on Bullets in Word 2010. Try this:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jumbled forms

2013-02-24 Thread Shari
Hi, It's hard to know for sure, but when I'm using IE and have trouble, I switch to Firefox and often get better results. Good luck, Shari - Original Message - From: Suey suzanneeato...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:06 PM Subject:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jumbled forms

2013-02-24 Thread justin williams
You may want to go from field to field with f. this would mean that everytime you entered info, you would hit escape to exit forms mode. Also, you could use the arrow keys to go from field to field without forms mode on. Go to the top, and see where the edit box is in relationship to the first

Re: [JAWS-Users] email clients

2013-02-24 Thread David Ferrin
This is the first I have heard of anybody finding a status line in WLM, very interesting thank you. Personally I have not looked at the program for over a year at least. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter.

[JAWS-Users] Jaws announcing imbedded object

2013-02-24 Thread Ryan West
Hello all, Since I updated my jaws to 14 jaws is alerting me to imbedded objects. I have an online book and almost every other line there is an imbedded object, so you can see how it announcing it all the time would get on my nerves. Please help me figure out how to turn off the announcing