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Just a reminder that we will hold our Monthly XMPP Meeting tomorrow
(Tuesday) at 19:00 UTC. The topics will focus on operational issues,
communication among XMPP server deployments, building a site like
mailradar.com for the XMPP network, etc. Details
Although I never sent out minutes from the first Monthly XMPP Meeting,
I think it would be productive to hold another meeting again soon. I
propose next Tuesday, April 14, at 20:00 UTC (check your local times!)
in the j...@conference.jabber.org room.
See you there!
Peter
P.S. Maybe I'll get a
Am 11.03.2009 um 21:19 schrieb Norman Rasmussen:
It depends on if stpeter is on your roster with a subscription
status of 'from' or 'both' or not.
I was talking about both.
rfc3921bis-07 section 4.6.2: summary:
if the user is on your roster: then global can override directed,
Which is a
On 3/10/09 1:00 AM, Nathan Fritz wrote:
XMPP sucks because the namespaces are incredibly inconsistent
Could you explain that more?
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On 3/10/09 5:58 AM, Pedro Melo wrote:
On Mar 10, 2009, at 8:46 AM, Remko Tronçon wrote:
OK, I came up with a theme for this meeting: Why I Hate XMPP. :)
The idea of a groupchat sounds pretty neat, but I'm a bit worried
about the anarchy that the subject entails. Looking at the thread, it
On 3/10/09 4:42 AM, Brett Zamir wrote:
On 3/10/2009 4:37 PM, Norman Rasmussen wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com
mailto:bret...@yahoo.com wrote:
Nice idea... I'd like to add lack of full XML and namespace
support (ok, maybe not XML with notations,
Am 12.03.2009 um 18:59 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:
On 3/10/09 1:00 AM, Nathan Fritz wrote:
XMPP sucks because the namespaces are incredibly inconsistent
Could you explain that more?
I guess he's talking about jabber:iq:* vs. urn:xmpp:* vs. http://jabber.org/*
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On 3/12/09 12:13 PM, Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
Am 12.03.2009 um 18:59 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:
On 3/10/09 1:00 AM, Nathan Fritz wrote:
XMPP sucks because the namespaces are incredibly inconsistent
Could you explain that more?
I guess he's talking about jabber:iq:* vs. urn:xmpp:* vs.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.imwrote:
2) RFC3921bis-08: The show/ element MUST NOT possess any attributes.
(also with status/, priority/, body/, subject/)
The latter could be made to state MUST NOT possess any non-namespaced
attributes.
IMHO we
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On 3/12/09 12:13 PM, Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
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On 3/12/09 8:31 PM, Brett Zamir wrote:
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On 3/12/09 12:13 PM, Jonathan Schleifer
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jonathan Schleifer js-j...@webkeks.orgwrote:
I'd like to bring up a topic: Directed presences.
IMO, as they are now, they are quite useless. One might even consider that
a bug in the RFC :).
except, they're a part of how XEP-0100 works at the moment, or
On 3/11/09 9:43 AM, Norman Rasmussen wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jonathan Schleifer
js-j...@webkeks.org mailto:js-j...@webkeks.org wrote:
I'd like to bring up a topic: Directed presences.
IMO, as they are now, they are quite useless. One might even
consider that a
Am 11.03.2009 um 16:50 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:
They are also how you join a MUC room.
I suggest that we spend our time on more productive tasks than getting
rid of directed presence or change presence subscriptions to IQs or
whatever.
Uhm, if I'm not totally wrong,
presence
On Wed Mar 11 15:59:11 2009, Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
Am 11.03.2009 um 16:50 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:
They are also how you join a MUC room.
I suggest that we spend our time on more productive tasks than
getting
rid of directed presence or change presence subscriptions to IQs or
Am 11.03.2009 um 18:10 schrieb Dave Cridland:
No, you're signalling your availability to stpeter. That
availability is allowed to be different to your general
availability, this is true. And because of the interaction between
directed presence and the roster, things can get complicated.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Jonathan Schleifer js-j...@webkeks.orgwrote:
Well, imagine this situation: I send a presence with showdnd/show. Then
my client sets me auto away and later I return. So it sends a global
available presence with no show. No peter seems me again. But I sent a
Hi Peter,
is this meeting open to public ? If so, I'll probably be there
to see.
Xavier
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On 3/11/09 5:25 PM, Xavier Maillard wrote:
is this meeting open to public ? If so, I'll probably be there
to see.
Certainly it is. Please join us!
Peter
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On Mar 10, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Nathan Fritz wrote:
XMPP sucks because the namespaces are incredibly inconsistent, XML
stream resets suck, and Jingle breaks all of the elegant simplicity
(likely necessarily).
Man, I feel guilty for writing that.
XDA meeting really.
Hi, my name is Pedro
OK, I came up with a theme for this meeting: Why I Hate XMPP. :)
The idea of a groupchat sounds pretty neat, but I'm a bit worried
about the anarchy that the subject entails. Looking at the thread, it
feels like everybody will just be bringing up his/her personal gripes
about XMPP, all of which
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
I just started looking at Sphinx, which is used to produce documentation
for Python and lots of other projects:
http://sphinx.pocoo.org/
It looks intriguing to me.
We started using it for Freevo some weeks ago and we like it. It is a
very good documentation system.
On 3/10/2009 4:37 PM, Norman Rasmussen wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com
mailto:bret...@yahoo.com wrote:
Nice idea... I'd like to add lack of full XML and namespace
support (ok, maybe not XML with notations, external DTDs, etc.,
but processing
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com wrote:
Well, yes, but there are issues such as these in the specs:
1) RFC3920bis-09: for historical reasons MAY accept only the 'stream:'
prefix
2) RFC3921bis-08: The show/ element MUST NOT possess any attributes.
(also with
Hi,
2009/3/9 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im:
I think it would be valuable to hold a groupchat once a month as a venue
for community discussion. I'm calling this the Monthly XMPP Meeting or
MXM (you can pronounce it like mix 'em). I propose that we hold the
first discussion this
On 3/10/09 2:48 PM, Tuomas Koski wrote:
Hi,
2009/3/9 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im:
I think it would be valuable to hold a groupchat once a month as a venue
for community discussion. I'm calling this the Monthly XMPP Meeting or
MXM (you can pronounce it like mix 'em). I propose that
I'd like to bring up a topic: Directed presences.
IMO, as they are now, they are quite useless. One might even consider
that a bug in the RFC :).
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On 3/9/09 3:20 PM, anders conbere wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote:
I think it would be valuable to hold a groupchat once a month as a venue
for community discussion. I'm calling this the Monthly XMPP Meeting or
MXM (you can pronounce it like
On 3/9/09 2:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
I think it would be valuable to hold a groupchat once a month as a venue
for community discussion. I'm calling this the Monthly XMPP Meeting or
MXM (you can pronounce it like mix 'em). I propose that we hold the
first discussion this Thursday, March
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
On 3/9/09 2:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
I think it would be valuable to hold a groupchat once a month as a venue
for community discussion. I'm calling this the Monthly XMPP Meeting or
MXM (you can pronounce it like mix 'em). I propose that we hold the
first
On 3/9/09 4:15 PM, Dirk Meyer wrote:
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
On 3/9/09 2:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
I think it would be valuable to hold a groupchat once a month as a venue
for community discussion. I'm calling this the Monthly XMPP Meeting or
MXM (you can pronounce it like mix 'em). I
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
One solution here is to build out a developer-oriented documentation
site. As we discussed in Brussels, Python developers don't read the
PEPs, they read the docs.
Right
We have only XEPs because it's a lot of work to write
developer-friendly docs, but we have a
2009/3/9 Dirk Meyer dme...@tzi.de:
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And I missed something I hate about XMPP: the name. You can google
something, you can send a mail, browse the web, you can even skype
someone. But I can't XMPP -- it is not word.
The POV of the Coccinella project is like these keywords in the
On 3/9/09 4:46 PM, Dirk Meyer wrote:
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
One solution here is to build out a developer-oriented documentation
site. As we discussed in Brussels, Python developers don't read the
PEPs, they read the docs.
Right
We have only XEPs because it's a lot of work to write
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