On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:46:30 +0200, Sebastian Klein wrote:
I would vote for keeping the changeset open by default. If the user
changes the changeset comment or other tags on subsequent upload, it
should ask if a new changeset should be started.
I find this arrangement to be overly cumbersome
Anthony,
The way I like to think of this is: If you speak to another mapper later that day,
and they ask you what
you've been up to? and you answer them in one sentence - that's what you
should put as a changeset
comment.
Sounds like a better place for that would be a diary entry.
If
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Marko Mäkelä marko.mak...@iki.fi wrote:
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:08:56PM -0400, Anthony wrote:
The quality of my own changeset comments is absolutely irrelevant in this
discussion; let's assume, if it gives you pleasure, that they are all just
That might
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Arguably, the changeset comment could be split up in a number of individual
tags. Currently, people use it for different things - they say something
about the source, about their method, about where they worked, about why
Hi,
Anthony wrote:
So do I... I just think it's unrealistic to expect it every time.
It is also unrealistic to expect good OSM data edits every time. Still
it's good if people try, and good if the software helps them with it.
IMO the job of the software should be to make sure the person
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
It is also unrealistic to expect good OSM data edits every time. Still it's
good if people try, and good if the software helps them with it.
Agreed.
IMO the job of the software should be to make sure the person knows
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Anthony wrote:
And it is something that should be consistent across different editors.
Actually this is nothing we need to worry about. JOSM is still settings
the standards here. We have 50% of the market. Potlatch the remaining 50%.
The other editors don't really count
Dirk Stöcker wrote:
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Anthony wrote:
And it is something that should be consistent across different editors.
Actually this is nothing we need to worry about. JOSM is still settings
the standards here. We have 50% of the market. Potlatch the remaining
50%. The other
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Sebastian Klein wrote:
Actually this is nothing we need to worry about. JOSM is still settings
the standards here. We have 50% of the market. Potlatch the remaining 50%.
The other editors don't really count at all ATM.
Don't forget Merkaartor! It has a fair amount of
Hi,
Ulf Lamping wrote:
Sorry, you overemphasize the importance of changeset comments.
I think you underestimate the importance of changeset comments.
Please keep in mind, that a changeset comment is *optional*, and there
is no misbehaviour if not added.
If a user don't want to add
Hi,
Sebastian Klein wrote:
Personally I only check a don't show this message again-box if I'm
100% sure I understood the message and I really, really don't want it to
show up again
We have had users on talk-de who had accidentally clicked a don't
show this message again box and were
Hi,
Julien Balas wrote:
I prefere some new data and no comment rather than... nothing.
See, that's the difference between the data is more important and the
community is more important view. I think that the people count more
than the data they contribute, and if their attitude towards the
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[mailto:josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Julien Balas
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Onderwerp: Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote:
I suggest we try to JOSM add some comments by itself:
Merkaartor did that, or perhaps does it still. These auto-generated
comments are next to worthless. They cannot replace one human being
telling another human
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 03.08.2010 18:12, schrieb Anthony:
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I don't think that the change to 10 chars is a good idea. E.g. if I only
add
a tag to a node,
Ulf,
Is it really your strategy to offend anyone not sharing your point of
view and build a community on top of that?
Please count the number of people who have participated in the
discussion on talk, and see how many of them thought that changeset
comments are important.
If I had the
Hi,
Anthony wrote:
I asked you for your username, because I wanted to see what you
consider to be a good changeset comment. It never struck me that you
might not actually consider your own changeset comments to be good.
I have given a number of examples that I consider good in the discussion
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Anthony wrote:
I asked you for your username, because I wanted to see what you
consider to be a good changeset comment. It never struck me that you
might not actually consider your own changeset comments to be
Am 04.08.2010 01:19, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Ulf,
P.S: Yes, this isn't a theoretical situation. While riding my
motorbike, I frequently have a lot of such tiny changes spread over a
huge area.
Perhaps we can try to be a bit more reasonable about this.
That's what I'm trying to do.
I have
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:08:56PM -0400, Anthony wrote:
The quality of my own changeset comments is absolutely irrelevant in
this discussion; let's assume, if it gives you pleasure, that they
are all just That might discredit the messenger, but not
change anything about the message. I
Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
I have changed the way JOSM treats changeset comments. This is a
politically sensitive topic (see recent discussion on talk list), so I'd
value your input. I'm willing to revert the change (applied in r3399) if
people think it is for the worse.
Tha vast majority
On 31 Jul 2010, at 12:23 , Frederik Ramm wrote:
I have now changed this in the following way:
* The last recently used changeset description is only loaded as default if
it was used less than 4 hours ago. Otherwise there is no default.
Why 4h and not 1h or 5min? this doesn't help much
Hi,
I have changed the way JOSM treats changeset comments. This is a
politically sensitive topic (see recent discussion on talk list), so I'd
value your input. I'm willing to revert the change (applied in r3399) if
people think it is for the worse.
Tha vast majority of mappers agree that
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