KR> LSA Certified ?

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Kr Netters,
   I hesitate to bring this up again, but
I should be ready to have my Kr2s inspected in 2 or 3 months. I don't  
know
if it is possible to get the plane listed as LSA. How do you know if the stall 
speed
will be low enough before you fly it? I do have an 1835 VW engine. I do have 
Diehl
wing skins. My empty weight should be close to 650 lbs. I am 83, have never 
flown
in a KR2S. I passed my FAA medical 2 years ago and am still in good health. The
main advantage to having my Kr2S  as an LSA would be not having to bother with
the medical. It also might be an advantage  when selling. Has any KR ever been
certified LSA?
 
Ray Goree
  
Arlington, Texas
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Room for fuel tank

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   I am building a KR2S. There are two shelves which are attached to the 
upper firewall. My fuel tank rests 
on the lower shelf and I do not want that. My problem is:: shall I cut off 
about the aft 2 inches of the shelf,
or about 1/2" of the fuel tank? My main concern is structural.

  Ray Goree

   Arlington, Texas
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Room for fuel tank

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

This for Jeff Scott:
Since I don't have your E-mail address, I'm answering by way of the net.
Thanks for your reply. I agree that it is best to leave the shelves alone. I 
did
some checking today, and I think I can alleviate the problem by adding a
spacer under the forward edge of the fuel tank
   Thanks, Jeff.

Ray Goree

raybeth...@sbcglobal.net 

KR> Voting

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  Mark,
  I tried today to vote on the  Forum but did not make the right 
connection. I definitely vote to keep the KrNet and I believe that the Forum 
has it's good points also. I vote for both.
 Thanks for your part in making both possible.

 Ray Goree

 Arlington, Texas
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> RR Wing skins

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 For James Dunn,
 I have a video made by Dan Diehl. which shows the installation process.
If you cannot get a copy from him, let me know your address
 and I will main it to you. You may reply to me off line at 
raybeth...@sbcglobal.net

 Ray Goree

  Arlington, Texas

KR> RR Wing skins

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  This is for James Dunn:
   James, I am still waiting to hear from you about your need for wing 
skin installation infomation.
There are two sets of pre-fab wing skins. RR has one and Dan Diehl has the 
other. My video is for
the Diehl wing skins.
   Please let me have your mailing address if you still want the video. 
Two other guys are wanting the video. 
Ray  Goree

 Arlington, Texas

  raybeth...@sbcglobal.net 

KR> End of the game

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Serge,
 I'm sorry to hear this news, I think it must be painful. Any chance 
that you have someone
you could leave it with and then pick it up again when you move again?

Ray Goree

Arlington, Texas

KR> Sport Aviation Article

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 I have not read the Sport Aviation Article yet, But I would like to add my 
Thanks to others in thanking Mark Langford, Mark Jones, and probably a half 
dozen others who have done so much to keep the Kr2 going and improving, I am 
looking forward to my first flight next spring.

  Ray Goree

  Arlington, Texas
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Today's Test

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Dan,
 This is really Good news. Congratulations. It must be a good feeling to 
look forwad to your next flight
without, first, having to fix something. Great, Dan. go for it.



> Today, I flew the Black Bird for 1.1 hours and got in 1.1 landings.  For 
> the
> FIRST time, I can go fly again without having to fix anything.  That does
> not mean that everything is perfect, but there are no problems that are a
> reason not to fly the plane.
> > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC. 

KR> Oil cooler mod - test

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  Dan,
  Congratulations, Dan. This is good news. NOW, will you ever say" I've 
had enough of flying, I just want to get back to building"?
  Have more fun.
 Ray

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: KR> Oil cooler mod - test


> Today, I got to take the Black Bird up again, to test out the mod for the
> oil cooling.  It worked exactly as planned.  The max OT that I saw was 
> 190,
> which actually is the minimum for cruise and I kept the RPM between 3000 
> and
> 3200.  At 3200 Straight and Level, I saw 140 air speed.  Certainly that is 
> a
> preliminary number, but it does give me hope for a fairly fast KR.
>
> The take off was at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Fuel Supply

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

I have an 1835 VW engine, with a Facet fuel pump feeding into a 
Bosch mechanical fuel pump. to an EFS-2..
   Will fuel flow through the mech, pump when it (the Bosch) is not pumping?

  Ray Goree
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> First Flight Pics

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Cougratulations no. 2,  Dan..Now, finally, you cab have fun flying. 
(not building)

 Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 

KR> Engine back in service

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Dan,
   It's good to hear that you are up and "running" again.
   I may have told you that mine is running but I am having a problem 
with the Ellison. I have an E-mail from them with suggestions.
I will be trying them as soon as I get my brake master cylinder to stop 
leaking where the line attaches to the cylinder.
   Dan, to speed you up with your "flaps"---   I have a speedbrake, made 
by Bill Clapp. I will not need it for awhile, and I am
willing to ship it to you. I will just ask Bill to make me another one, and 
pick it up at the Gathering.
   Dan, I may not be able to get a ride from you at the Gathering, this 
year, but I sure would like to see you AND your
Blackbird at the big KR fly-in next month.

 Ray

From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: KR> Engine back in service


> Well, Netters, my engine is back in service and got it's first of 3 
> break-in
> runs today.  Everything worked as it should and all the temps are good.
> After I added the oil filter and "-8"  lines, my OP is not as high as it 
> had
> been before, and it would not come up just by spinning the engine with the
> plugs out, however, almost immediately after starting it, the OP went to 
> 50
> and remained above 25 at 2000 RPM.  The OT never got above 160 and the CHT
> never got above 300.
> 

KR> Wrong Address

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Netters,
   Sorry about the carelessness in the address. The E-mail to Dan Heath at 
1:49 p.m.
should have been sent directly to Dan.
  Ray 
Goree
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> EFS-2

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   This is addressed to those of you who have had experiences with the 
EFS=-2
   I have been running my VW 1835 since an overhaul to replace a cam gear. 
I am 
having problems getting it adjusted,  The timing seems to be close, but I do 
have firing 
in the exhausts. There appears to be excess fuel coming through the meetering 
tube.

   Any suggestions or comments?

  Ray Goree

  raybeth...@sbcglobal.net

  817-795-4779
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> KR Gathering ---Homecoming?

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Excellent idea.
   Ray Goree
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering ---Homecoming?


> As long as you do it after I get this thing flying and next year so I can
> replenish the funds and vacation time.  What a trip that would be.  We 
> would
> all join up at different points along the trip and buzz Jeanett's house. 
> At
> 1000 agl of course.
>  KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> It's Flying By

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

The flea market sounds like a very good idea. I have some parts.
   Ray 
Goree
   
Arlington 
Texas


n the pre-registration yet. Heck, if you can't fly it there, then tow it to 
the Gathering. We all love to look at projects. Heck we could even have a 
giant KR flea market. I am really starting to get pumped about the 
Gathering. I will keep reminding you so you don't forget. If you do not know 
what a KR Gathering is then you need to check out this link: 
http://krgathering.org/
> YOU WILL BE THERE...right?
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Web site: www.flykr2s.com
> Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Viagra

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  This directed at Mark and anyone else that may have the answer. How do ads
like the one for Viagra, get on the krnet? 
  Ray
  
Arlington, Tx.
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> light speed engineering electronic ignition on my KR2

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Dan, It was very good to hear that you will be in the air, soon. You 
certainly have had mor than
your share of delays. Persistance is next to patience, I guess.
 I have had my own delay (and dissappointment). The day before I planned 
to start it up for the first time
in 12 years  I was putting oil in the cylinders and turning the engine 
over, and it stopped turning.
I could turn it ccw but cw only up to a point and it would stop. I have the 
1835 out and on my table. Gotta find out
what the culprit is.
 I have had one of my rare colds this week and my time with the engine 
has been limited. Perhaps tomorrow I can
get it opened up. Sounds as though you will be in the air soon.

   Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 

KR>Unable to turn over engine

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 flymaca711689,
 I do not have a fuel injected engine. I am in the process of tearing 
the engine down at this time.
I "suspicion" the problem is a foreign object, small. I hope to know the 
answer in a few days.

 Ray Goree

 Arlington, Texas
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Unable to turn over engine


> you may have  hydraulically lock the engine . this happens in lot with
> fuel injected engines if the fuel regulator  ruptures it will not turn 
> over and
> will busted the nose right off the starter if  you try to turn it over . 
> did
> you remove you plugs and retry ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

KR> 1835 Tear Down

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

KRNetters,
In the morning I MAY be tearing down my engine. I have done this 
before, but it came out of a car
and did not havea prop hub on it. My first question: Can I get the 
engine case apart 
before taking the prop hub off? I think I will have to replace one or 
more gears , which will require 
that. But, I would like to take a look  first.

  Ray Goree

  Arlington, Texas
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Engine Start-up

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  I have an 1835 VW engine that I will be starting soon. My question: Is it 
okay 
to start the engine and run it a minute or two or two, without damage? ( It 
would be
convenient not to have the prop in the way)
  Thanks for your replys.
  Ray
  
Arlington, Texas
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> (no subject)

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

THANKS,   Mark L., Colin, Lee Van Dyke, and Dan H..  I appreciate your answers 
and plan to combine them all.
AND USE THE PROP. It is good to have guys, "that have been there" steer you in 
the right direction. 
   You may remember a KR Builder named Mike Ladigo, from Tulsa, who later 
built a KR2 with a jet engine,
he built the engine I now have and I have electronic ignition on it. Mike put 
147 hours on it.
   Thanks, again.

Ray

Arlington, Tx.
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Prop Crush

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  I have a KR2S, an 1835 VW engine and an Ed Sterba,  52 x 48 prop. How 
much torque 
should I apply?

  Thanks for your answers.

   Ray Goree

   raybeth...@sbcglobal.net
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> livin' the KR dream

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Mark,
 It is really great to read your enthusiasm about you and your flying
machine. I think this is my 12th year and I stopped counting hours
several years ago. I hope to have my KR2S in the air this fall.
Congratulate your wife on her understanding, patience,
her wanting the house all to herself, or---  Just thank her.
  Now, go flying if you can.
   Ray 
Goree
   
Arlington, 
Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:06 PM
Subject: KR> livin' the KR dream

> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Is my engine back in?

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Dan,
 You are having more than your share of bad luck with your engines.
I,m glad you are hanging "in there". Persistence pays off--I keep telling 
myself.
Best of luck.

  Ray
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: KR> Is my engine back in?


> Re-installed the engine and found a very bad oil leak on the break in 
> runs.  I think that the problem has been found and the solution is on the 
> way.  As soon as I get the parts back and re-installed, and re-install the 
> engine, I will let you all know the results of this adventure.  I should 
> have the engine running again in about 10 days.
> 

KR> Fw: QUEST FOR INVESTMENT

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 KRnetters,
 Can anyone explain how and why these E-mails get on the Net and what,
if any, validity these things have ?
  Ray Goree 
Arlington, Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "Tony Utomy" 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:49 PM
Subject: QUEST FOR INVESTMENT


>
> Dear Sir,
> Pardon my intrusion into your privacy like this,but the
> circumstances warrant that I do so.
>
> I am Mr.Albert Young- a lawyer/consultant for some African
> eminent personels who prefer to remain anonymous.
> They have shown proofs to me which I have verified
> professionally that their claims are true,sincere and acurate as I
> wouldn't want my name and career smeared with mud.;that they have a
> certain large sum of money in CASH (USD$25,000,000.00 -
> Twenty five million USA dollars) stashed away in security and finance
> houses in europe.
>
> My clients are politicians,ex-head of states and some of
> them are in assylum Which explains why they prefer to remain
> anonymous.They have requested that I source for a reliable and capable
> foreigner to act as their partner who will help claim these funds from
> the security company after which it shall be used for investment as
> directed by the foreigner(subject to a close study of feasibilty
> expected to be supplied).The funds are duely protected professionally
> to avoid any unauthorized tamperings or theft.
>
> A total of 22.5% of the total sum has been set aside for
> you if you agree to be our partner as well as a 5% which is mapped out
> for all expenses which might be incurred in the process of
> claiming the funds from the security company.
>
> As a lawyer,I am aware of the various similar propositions
> flying about on the internet and I must confess that I was reluctant to
> take up this task,but having carried out my investigations
> and confirm it is true,I can confidently tell you that this is no scam.
>
>
> Kindly revert back to me should you wish to be a partner
> with 100% assurance that you will not regret your decision.
> Awaiting your prompt response.
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Mr Albert Young
>
> 

KR> My Unveiling

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

That is one nice paint job, Mark. How did you get it so shiny?
   Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: KR> My Unveiling


> Bob,
> I have already done night flights in my KR and have absolutely no problems
> with the tinted canopy. I really is not that dark of a tint.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Robert L. Stone" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> My Unveiling
>
>
>> Mark,
>>  Looks great however if you do any flying at night that dark canopy
> may
>> become a problem.  Of course you could build another canopy with clear
>> plexiglass and use it when you are planning a night flight.
>>
>> Bob Stone
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mark Jones" 
>> To: "William Wynne" ; "KR Net" ;
>> "Corvaircraft" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:54 PM
>> Subject: KR> My Unveiling
>>
>>
>> > Ok guys and Gals, I have just updated my "Photo of the Week" page with
> the
>> > very lastest and most likely final version of my fuselage. Take a look
> and
>> > tell me what you think. Here is the link:
>> > http://www.flykr2s.com/photo.html
>> >
>> > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> > Wales, WI  USA
>> > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
>> > Visit my NEW
>> > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>> >
>> >
>> > ___
>> > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
>> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
>> > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>> >
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>
>
>
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> End of the Spear-must see movie!

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Bill,
   Thanks for a really great E-mail. It is good to hear that you and 
your Dad
had an association with that tribe and opened the first landing strip there. 
I think
we have an MAF chapter here in Arlington, Tx.
   It was just this morning that mywife, Beth, told me she was going to 
look in the
paper for a theater showing  "End of the Spear". We will be going soon.

  May God Bless,

  Ray

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:50 PM
Subject: KR> End of the Spear-must see movie!


> Im going to plug a movie for yall at this time - not necessarily KR news 
> but
> interesting aviation news.
> As many of you know I grew up in the jungles  of South America in a 
> town
> called Shell Mera in Ecuador. (named after the  Shell oil company).  In 
> 1965
> five missionaries were killed by the Waudoni  indian tribe after an 
> attempt to
> reach them with the gospel.  This was big  news in the USA back then and
> affected the lives of many people.  One was  my father who dedicated his 
> life to
> the mission field and mission aviation in  particular.  While my dad 
> started
> and worked on his flight training and  Bible studies the Waudoni were 
> reached
> peacefully by Rachel Saint and Elizabeth  Elliot (wives of the killed
> missionaries)  Their efforts resulted in the  Gospel transforming the 
> tribe.  In 1974 we
> moved to Ecuador and my dad  served in  Mission Aviation Fellowship as 
> chief
> pilot and mechanic.   His dream of serving the Waudoni came to pass as he 
> was
> able to open the first  airstrip serving this once violent tribe.  Many 
> among
> the Waudoni are close  personal friends of ours to this date.   This 
> August in
> Oshkosh  WI  my daughter Elaine was able to meet Mincaye (one of the 
> Waudani
> that  killed Nate Saint) and Steve Saint.  Ill post pictures on Glenda's
> website  later (awesometrvl.com) The PA 14 used in the movie was on 
> display.  There
> are scenes of a PA14 being hacked up in the movie.  That PA14 is one on
> donation from my father for that use - not an airworthy plane at this 
> time.  If
> you get a chance and want to see a very interesting movie  involving 
> airplanes
> and history I can recomend this one.  There are some  beautiful flying
> sequences in it.
>For more information about the history of the five  missionaries there
> are several options.   "Beyond the Gates of  Splendor"  DVD is a great
> documentary from the book by Elizabeth  Elliot.  "Jungle Pilot"  is also a 
> great book
> about the life of Nate  Saint - the MAF pilot that was killed.  These are
> available at Christian  bookstores all over.
>Now the KR part - My dads first experimental was  N2CC - a KR2 - Turbo
> Revemaster - that was built in the jungle of Ecuador and  first flew on
> Thanksgiving day of 1981.  It was the first homebuilt ever in  Ecuador - 
> and maybe
> South America at that time.  They actually shut the  town down and had a 
> band and
> about 500 spectators lined up and down the runway -  NO PRESSURE   The
> first flight went without a hitch and many more  afterwards.  I inherited 
> the
> plane and refurbished it and flew it to Sun  and Fun in 1995.  I sold it 
> in 1996
> to pay school bills and it was  destroyed by the new pilot soon thereafter
> (no fatalities).
>That is a bit of my history and the ties I have to  a very neat part of
> the world.  I hope you have a chance to see the film  and promote some of 
> the
> better films out now.
> Bill and 41768
>
>
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Update

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Mark,
   Your culinary skills are unique. Congratulations.
Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net (E-mail)" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: KR> Update


> As most of you know, I am in the process of painting my plane. I am almost 
> done with the body work and filling and sanding of the fuselage. A small 
> dilemma I had was that I needed to wash the cowl real good to remove oil 
> from it and it has been simply too cold to do it outside here. Solution: I 
> washed it in the shower last night. My wife thought I was crazy but not as 
> crazy as when I baked the paint on my engine cylinders in the oven on 
> Thanksgiving morning 2001 just two hours prior to the turkey going in. 
> That was a unique tasting turkey!!! When there is a will, there is a way. 
> :-)
>
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com 
> 
> Email: mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Langfors etc.

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   I say amen to this, Kevin
What has kept the design alive is people like Langford, Jones, Wynne, and 
others.  We all owe so much to these guys who seem to go to great lengths to 
share.  I want to thank them for continuous improvement on a simple, efficient 
design.  Now we need to one-up them for future builders. ;-)  

Kevin.  Ray

KR> Jailbird

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 William,
  What an experience.  I too am thankful that the Lord was with you
and brought you through it safely.
  Praise God,
  Ray Goree 
Arlington, Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "william walsh" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Jailbird


I was the pilot of the the kr that went down 395jt. Not sure what happen to 
the fuel
  but had more then 2 hrs of it  in the plane before I went down. I have 
been on the net
  for many years had have had 4 different kr's and have seen and head of a 
lot of crashes and people that have died but never did I think that  it 
would happen to me. I always fly high as a rule of thumb and that paid off 
as I all most did not make the island. If I had not turned when I did I 
would have been crab bait or would have been killed by the trees. I will 
share more as I find out what happened to the fuel I will also share some 
pics. I can tell you now that I have looked death in the eyes and it did not 
look good and thankful that my good lord was looking over me that day. Had I 
been  25 ft lower i would have not been here today to talk about it. I hope 
that some day the findings of the crash will help save some ones life just 
as mine was saved. Will keep all posted sorry that it took me so long but to 
be honest I really did not want to talk to anyone for the last few days. I 
think that the plane might have a chance but will take some work  I can't 
believe that the wings did
 not get hurt. I am not sure if I will fix it or just sell it. I have a lot 
to think about with a family of 7. Will keep all posted and will find a way 
to put a link to my yahoo pics. For now.
  William Walsh




I got this from a friend on the Quickie e-mail list. Anyone know
anything about who the pilot might be?

Larry Flesner
+++

Yesterday, a KR-2 pilot landed in jail here in the Puget Sound.

William left Olympia for Tacoma on a flight over Puget Sound via McNeil
Island - a state prison. He had 7 gallons on board verified by sight gage,
electric fuel gage, and visual sighting thru a gas cap. After 15 minutes of
flight time, he ran out of fuel and had to make an emergency landing in a
cleared field on the island.

The engine is a Revmaster with Revflow carburetor. There is only a header
tank with 14 gallons capacity. There is a fuel tank vent under the airplane
similar to the Q2.

He cleared the trees on the high point and landed on an upslope. When the
nose gear touched, it broke off and the airplane pitch poled onto it's back
landing on the canopy and the tail. The canopy frame held and the vertical
fin broke. William was not injured but complained of soreness and
stiffness. He had a 4 point harness. The canopy plastic broke and William
crawled out. There was no fire. There was no fuel on board and there was
no evidence of fuel leakage.

I helped William recover his airplane with some friends and relatives. The
guards had helped William right and disassemble his airplane when we got
there.

The NTSB did not come out but will examine the airplane at Williams place.

Access was by the prison barge which is pushed by a tug and manned by prison
inmates. We were prohibited from talking to the inmates. We used a 16 foot
trailer. We were escorted by a guard during the recovery. There is no news
in the papers about the accident as the entire event occurred on state
property.



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KR> another flight

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Joe,
 Congratulations, Joe and many happy landings.
  Ray Goree   Arlington, 
Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph H. Horton" 
To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:04 PM
Subject: KR> another flight


> Guys,
>What a great day! 60 degrees and west wind not to strong clear
> blue sky and finally caught up at work.
>I did one long flight for 1.9 hours and explored the effects of
> fuel burning off in the header tank, some adjustments in the control
> systems, slow cruise flying mostly120 to 130 mph today. I also did a
> rough check on the fuel usage. I have 3.5 hours this week with a multiple
> of speeds and 6 take offs and landings. I burned about 17 gal. which
> averages out to just over 5,5 gal/ hour. I love it. I have at least 1 1/2
> hours of fuel left in the header tank right now. That is 5 hours of
> steady flying and I'm sure that will be long enough for my kidneys. Man I
> love this plane.
>Although I have to say it is a hand full and more when it is
> rough on finial. And I sure did float a long ways this afternoon on the
> first landing. The nose was way up where there was no way to see except
> out the sides and it just hung there for the longest time and I had to
> keep dancing on the rudders and ailerons way to long.
>N357CJ -- 13.2 hours and counting.
>
> Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
> joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
>
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KR> Bad day

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  Dan,
  I have been out of town off and on, but I have heard of some engine 
problems
you have had. Here's hoping you are getting closer to having that "FUN".
Hang in there.
   Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:03 AM
Subject: KR> Bad day


> Thank you, and that information is certainly worth more than 2 cents. In
> fact, if it were worth only 2 cents, then why would you bother posting it.
>
> If this turns out to be the root cause of the problem, then maybe it will
> also explain why the oil temp would not come up until we taped over the 
> oil
> cooler. And, maybe that would be an indication to others out there, seeing
> the same symptom.
>
> I will let you all know what the source of the seizure was, if it can be
> determined.
>
> I wish the manufacturer of this engine were that close by, so I could just
> ask him to take care of it for me as I am real tired of doing all this 
> work
> with no FUN. I am ready for some FUN.
>
>
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
>
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> is OVER.
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> We found the cause to be a faulty oil valve. As I understand it, the VWs
> have an oil valve
>
> whose job is to bypass the oil cooler when the engine is cold. If that
>
> valve does not work, then you get insufficient lubrication of the thrust
>
> bearing, and you're done.
>
> My 2 cents worth.
>
>
>
>
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KR> Update

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Mark,
 I am still working on my KR2S and hoping to run the engine by March. I 
have been on this thing
since 1994. I hope my giid health keeps up for several more years so I can 
do some flying for a change.
I wish I could share some of our good weather with you. We do have cold 
spells but then it moderates.
I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

  Ray Goree   Arling ton, Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net (E-mail)" 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:06 AM
Subject: KR> Update


Am I the only one in the KR world working today? My phone has not even rang 
here at work. Might just have to shut er down early today. Anyway, my plane 
is in my garage being torn down. I have removed the wings, the rudder, the 
cowling, the forward deck, the seats and have the engine completely 
disconnected and ready for removal from the mount. I am doing this so that I 
can do the final body work on the KR and get her painted. There are some 
minor repairs that are needed and a few modifications I am going to do. I 
also have to make a new alternator mount and work on my carb heat and cabin 
heat. This gives me something to tinker with over the winter here in 
Wisconsin, however, we are having a heat wave right now. It is actually 37°F 
as I am typing this. This is the first time we have been above freezing in 
three weeks. Hope you all have a very Merry Christmas.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com 

Email: mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com

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KR> Flight Report

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   Mark,
   Sounds like a beautiful sight to behold and a wise decision made.
Congratulstions.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:27 PM
Subject: KR> Flight Report


Went to the airport today after work. Fueled the plane, preflighted her and
got airborne at 5pm. The flight was just a basic local lazy type of flight
with long slow turns and never getting above 3500' and I stayed within about
10 miles of the airport. I was just truly enjoying the view of the beautiful
trees below which happen to be in their full fall colors right now. What a
sight to behold!!!. At about 40 minutes into the flight, I noticed the
engine began running a little rough so I changed rpm settings and that did
not seem to help. I noticed the rpm begin to slowly drop. H, could this
be carb ice? I applied carb heat and about thirty seconds later she started
running smooth again. The temp outside was 43° with a dew point of 39° and
relative humidity of 87%. Now that adds up to carb ice potential. I fly with
an Ellison EFS-3A. The rest of the flight was uneventful and was after the
sun set. I greased in a night landing for my log books.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
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KR> Sterba Address

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 Kr-netters,
 I would like to have the E-mail address and phone number for 
Ed Sterba props.
 Thanks,   Ray Goree

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KR> Live your dream

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  Mark,
  A beautiful experienceand so aptly expressed. I am often amazed at the 
beautiful
sights and sounds we are priviledged to see and share here on God's 
beautiful earth. This
afternoon, my wife, Beth, and I watched, on the Travel Channel, Bryce Canyon 
and Zion
National Parks. One of my Grandsons and I visited these two places in 1991 
after I
retired. " When I consider the earth, the moon, the stars, the handiwork of 
Your  hands,
who is man that you are mindful of him?" Not a direct quote, but hopefully 
close.
  I am hoping to see more of it from a few thousand feet above from my 
KR2S before
and on the way to Mt. Vernon next year.
  Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

Ray Goree

Arlington, Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: KR> Live your dream


I am talking about your KR dream. This morning my three year old daughter
crawled in bed with us at about 4am. That in itself is a dream come true to
have your three year old daughter snuggle up to you in the wee morning hours
but today wasfrom KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
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KR> E-mail to Mark

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  I did it again---hit the reply key, thinking I was sending to Mark.
   Ray
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

Fw: KR> E-mail

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  This is a repeat request. I hope to get some positive replys this 
time.
 Thanks,  Ray Goree 
raybeth...@sbcglobal.net
- Original Message - 
From: <raybeth...@sbcglobal.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: KR> E-mail


>Netters,
> I am trying to locate Randy Smith of Ft. Worth, Tx. He has a hanger (in 
> progress?)
> at Hicks Field. The E-mail address I have does not work. A phone number 
> also
> will be helpful.
>   Thanks,
> 
> Ray Goree
> 
> Arlington, Tx.
> 
> raybeth...@sbcglobal.net
> Ray Goree
> 817-795-4779
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KR> plane's at the airport...

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Comgratulations, Mark.  Best of luck and skill.
   Ray Goree

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:22 PM
Subject: KR> plane's at the airport...


> Jeanie and I hauled the plane to the airport tonight, and then the wings 
> in a separate trip, one in back of my GTI, and one in back of her A4 
> stationwagon (we're the only couple in Alabama that doesn't own at least 
> one pickup truck).  We're entertaining our customer at work today and 
> tomorrow, but I hope to take off after lunch and put the wings on, and be 
> ready to fly Saturday morning.  Hazel Green (M38) is only 2700' long, but 
> even worse, is only 40' wide.  Easy enough to take off on, but a little 
> tougher to land!  I'm going to fly over to MDQ three miles away and do 
> about 20 touch-n-goes, then to the "Moontown" (3M5) grass strip (2200' 
> long, but 160' wide) for some more sharpening of the skills, and then back 
> to M38 for my first landing attempt.  At least the hangar at M38 where I'm 
> keeping it is very nice, complete with epoxy coated floor and Heineken in 
> the fridge!  The weather is severe clear for the next few days.  Wish me 
> luck.
>
> It sure is nice to have my basement back after 12 years.  I could do a 
> Yeha for that one all by itself...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> E-mail

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Netters,
I am trying to locate Randy Smith of Ft. Worth, Tx. He has a hanger (in 
progress?) 
at Hicks Field. The E-mail address I have does not work. A phone number also 
will be helpful.
   Thanks,
 
Ray Goree
 
Arlington, Tx.
 
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Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Dan,
 Are you having trouble with your engine? You know I have an 1835 VW
engine and an Ellison EFS-3.
   Ray

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: RE: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison


> Yea, I guess I should take this engine off and look for a core to start
> building up.  Who makes the motor mounts?  And I guess I will have to 
> re-do
> the cowling and I sure hope that I still have room behind the engine for 
> the
> stuff that I already have on the firewall, like the battery and fuel 
> filter
> and pumps, or I will have to re-do all that, and I guess I will have to 
> get
> a new intake and exhaust, and I know this Ellison won't work with the big 
> HP
> Corvair, so I will have to get an EFS-3A.  Wonder if I can get that done 
> in
> time for the Gathering next year  Oh, and I wonder if my ignition 
> system
> will work or if I will have to replace all that also.
>
> Well, it is either that or haul Auto fuel to the airport and hope the
> Ellison does not break or use AvGas and hope the engine does not break.
> Maybe I can just get this engine re-worked to use AvGas or put on a Zenith
> Carbie.
>
> Oh, what to do, what to do.  I think I will just have to think on it for a
> while
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> has expired.
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Mark Langford
> Date: 08/19/05 17:16:23
> To: Dan Heath
> Subject: Re: RE: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison
>
>> Now ain't that a catch22?
>
> I guess you'll have to put a Corvair in it!
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> --
>
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KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Dan,
 What has happened to your engine?
 Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: RE: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison


> Yea, I guess I  at http://www.krnet.org/info.html

KR> Fw: MT. VERNON 2005

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Joe Davis,
   I have twice replied to your E-mail to me. I am wondering if you 
redeived
them.
 Ray 
Goree
 
raybeth...@sbcglobal.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Davis" <cjdwi...@airpost.net>
To: <raybeth...@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: MT. VERNON 2005


> RAY, I AM GOING TO DRIVE TO THE GATHERING. LEAVE THURSDAY MORNING AND 
> RETURN SUNDAY NIGHT. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED GET IN TOUCH
> JOE DAVIS   KAUFMAN, TEXAS 

KR> Staples

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

I put a string, or light cord, under my staples. Then, I pulled the string 
and pulled
up one staple end. Pliers took care of the other half..

  Ray Goree
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Staples


>
> Try waxing the staples with floor wax before you load them in the staple
> gun.  I shot a bunch of waxed staples into the side of my KR today.  I'll
> give you the results after I pull them tomorrow.
>
> Jeff Scott
> N1213W
> Los Alamos, NM
>
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:18:31 -0700 "Joe Beyer" 
> writes:
>> I agree that staples are the thing to use. You've got to have a good
>> bond
>> and weights will distort and twist the structure. In the '70's
>> someone
>> mailed in an article to the news letter about a method of removing
>> staples.
>> Have a pattern drawn on the belly skin on both sides. one is the
>> glue area
>> (inside) and the outside is the staple guide. Get some plastic band
>> strap
>> material, used for fastening boxes to pallets, and tape it over the
>> staple
>> guide lines. Metal won't do. When shooting staples you go through
>> the band
>> strap and then through the skin. The next day when the glue has
>> dried just
>> pull on one end of the band strap to lift the staples. I didn't use
>> this
>> method myself because at the time I hadn't thought of it. It really
>> isn't
>> that much work to use a chisel to lift the staple up and grab it
>> with a pair
>> of pliers. I filled the indentions with plastic wood that I bought
>> at the
>> hardware store.
>
>>>  Sure would be nice not to have to remove those
>>> staples.
>>
>>
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KR> Re:Finial inspection- N357CJ

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Congratulations, Joe.
It must be a good feeling, where you are. Enjoy each moment. I hope to be 
there
this fall.
  Ray 
Goree   Arlington, Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Re:Finial inspection- N357CJ


> Way to GO JOE!  I told you, that you would get there before us.
>
> Now the time for building HAS expired.
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> has expired.
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
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KR> Missing Granddaughter

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  KR Netters, in  Indianappolis,
  This is personal but very important. I have a Granddaughter that has been 
living in 
Indianappolis, In. I was informed by a resident of Indianappolis that she was 
not being cared 
for properly and was being verbally abused. This person, a known acquaintance 
of my 
daughter, whom I talked to on Wednesday and promised to help me get her back in 
Texas,
has not called me back as he promised. His phone has been disconnected and I am 
asking
for help in contacting his home on S. Sloan Ave., 41203. I can be reached at 
817-795-4779,
and 682-429-1262 cell. 
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Granddaughter

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   KRNetters,
   I have re-established contact with my party in Indianappolis. Thanks for 
your concern
and to those of you who have responded, THANKS.  Please disregard my first 
message.
My contact there is working on locating my Grandaughter.
  
Thanks,Ray
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Oshkosh Head Count

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Ricky,
 I live in Arlington, Tx. Keep me in mind if you want to share
driving. Do you camp out?
 Please respond off net.
  Ray Goree
  
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ricky Farley" <k...@r-farley.com>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh Head Count


>I am driving up from Texas on Thursday or Friday and will be there all week
> (I will probably be driving back on the following Sunday).
>
>
>
> Ricky Farley
> Corvair powered KR-2S
> San Angelo, TX
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Mark Jones
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 07:19
> To: KR Net (E-mail)
> Subject: KR> Oshkosh Head Count
>
> PLEASE RESPOND
>
> Who will be at Oshkosh and what days?
>
> Who is flying their KR to Oshkosh?
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
>
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>
>
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KR> Turtle deck

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  Ron,
  I made my cabin wider and my canopy taller, so pre-molds would not 
fit.
I made my own formers and used 1/16th Hoop Pine plywood for my turtledeck.
So far, it is okay. If you are interested, I can tell you where to get it, 
in Houston.
The weight may be less than a pre-mold.
   Good luck.
  Ray 
Goree
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Eason" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Turtle deck


>I have a KR2 deck and will sell it for $50.00 plus shipping. I made mine 
>fron 3/32 plywood.
> KRron
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" 
> Reply-To: KRnet 
> Date:  Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:37:44 -0600
>
> Can someone provide me with a bit of guidance as to the turtle deck.
>
> Should I build it... or buy it from KR?
>
> I like the shape of the deck that KR sells... but I was hoping to save a 
> few
> $$ if I built it myself.
>
> So my question is.. am I really going to save that much $$ if I build 
> rather
> then buying one aready finished?
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
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KR> Second engine run

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  Dan,
I plan to use the "recess into the tank"  I am thinking about using a 3" 
hole saw to
cut the hole in the tank and then use the hole saw as a mold to lay-up my 
"pan"
which will fit into the top of the tank I am working some on my EFS-2 
installation,
and battery and other firewall attachments. I am planning on building a box 
to house
my filter ahead of the EFS-2. I bought the EFS-2 from a builder 
inCalifornia. It had
few hours on it and included sheet metal  units for housing the air filter 
and air diverter.
His system had the air changing directions at least twice. I am am locating 
the parts in
to be in-line in this order from EFS-2 forward.  1. diverter box to the 
EFS-2  ( by this
I mean it directs the ram and carb heat air to the EFS-2)   2. The air 
filter unit
3. duct to the air inlet. ( I may have left one part out-- I'm not sure.
Dan , it is good to read of  your progress. Don't forget to be 
practicing on your
YEHAWW
Ray


- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Second engine run


> Thanks.  I have been through the manual.  It seems very odd that it runs 
> the
> same with the holes pointed into the wind.  I cannot see how this is
> possible.  Anyway, I sent a question off to Ellison and maybe they have a
> resolution.  If I don't get an answer back, I will call them.  You would 
> not
> believe how much difference adding the secondary ignition made to the way
> this engine runs.
>
> I just realized one of my worst fears concerning this fuel sender saga.
> There is not enough room between the deck and the tank, to install the 
> probe
>  I either have to make a bump on top of the tank, or I have to make a
> recess into the tank..  Given the choice, which one would you choose?
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> has expired.
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Mark Langford
> Date: 06/12/05 16:25:04
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Second engine run
>
> Dan Heath wrote:
>
>> We are using an EFS-2 and the mixture needle does turn properly when the
>> mixture is adjusted, however, I can tell no difference between full rich
> and
>> full lean in the operation of the engine. Could the idle mixture
> adjustment
>> cause this?
>
> I don't think the idle mixture affects the rest of the range much,
> especially if set correctly.  I believe it's a separate circuit.  If 
> you've
> got the idle mixture set right (smoothest idle at whatever speed you want 
> it
> to be) then it's right and there's nothing else to do with it.  Mine will
> quit pretty quick if turned full lean, so I'm surprised that you can't 
> find
> any different rich to lean.  Sounds like a call to Ellison is in order
> tomorrow.  I'm sure you've already seen the manual at
> http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com/manual/manual.htm , or have a copy
> already.
>
> Congratulations on getting a little closer!
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> --
>
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KR> Second engine run

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

My apologies. I had intended to send this directly to Dan.
I don't know why the computer rearranged my lines.
Ray 
Goree
- Original Message - 
From: <raybeth...@sbcglobal.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Second engine run


>  Dan,
> I plan to use the "recess into the tank"  I am thinking about using a 3"
> hole saw to
> cut the hole in the tank and then use the hole saw as a mold to lay-up my
> "pan"
> which will fit into the top of the tank I am working some on my EFS-2
> installation,
> and battery and other at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Making Real Engine Noises

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Hi Dan,
Congratulations  I hope to hear a similar sound in a few weeks.
I have my mount in place and have had the engine on, but took it off to
add the things on the firewall. I getting an order ready to send off Monday
morning. These pipe threads and 37 degree fittings and such are fairly new
to me. I have a couple of teachers and I am learning. I hope to have my tail
wheel on next week and then I can move it outside for sanding and a breeze,
hopefully. Your pictures of the start-up are good.. Best of luck.
Beth continues to improve. She would welcome an E-mail from your wife, or
a phone call would be welcome. Best call times are in the morning.
  Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 

KR> E-mail toDan

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

That E-mail to Dan Heath was accidental. Excuse, PLEASE.
   Ray
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Weight

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Kr-Netters,
   When I make it to the Gathering in my KR2S, I may not only give Larry 
Flesner
some real competition in the "ugliest" department, but also in the weight 
department.
Her is what I am talking about (weight wise). Yesterday, I weighted my 
KR2S
using bathroom scales, just to get an idea of my weight. The two mains weighed 
350#
and the Tail, 30#. Yes, I,m puzzled too. This included engine and most engine 
access-
ories. I estimate that I need to add 50# to the engine weight for battery, 
cowling, prop,
firewall attachments, and 10# for instruments, wiring etc., and 10# in the 
cockpit, and 10#
for paint, etc. Okay, that,s  80# and 380# = 460#. That's still light. Am I 
doing something
wrong? I believe the bathroom scales to be accurate to 5#. Any comments?

 Ray Goree
       
"raybeth...@sbcglobal.net"

Ray Goree
817-795-4779

Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Weight

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Yes, Serge, I did put a 2x4 (1.6 inches thick) under the other wheel
when I made the measurement to "keep"it level but I did not do this when
I measured the tail.
  Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Serge VIDAL" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Weight


> The only thing I can think of is a mis-reading of the weight on the mains.
> Did you do one wheel at a time? In that case, did you make sure the wheels
> are level while measuring?
>
> Serge Vidal
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KR> weight

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Don,
 Thanks for your reply. My turtledeck is .06 Hoop Pine plywwood and it
and all the fuselage are covered with one layer of 6 oz. and 1 layer of 
11/2 oz
fiberglass cloth. I added the 11/2 oz to give a smoother surface to prime 
and finish.
 I will determine how many layers of paint after I have flown my 40 
hours.
 Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Don Chisholm" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:28 AM
Subject: KR> weight


> what will determine how heavy it will be
> is how well your initial fibreglass work is and how
> well finished you want it
> info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Exhaust Pipes

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 I have an 1835 VW engine mounted on the firewall. The exhaust pipes are 
touching
the bottom of the fuselage. I know that is not acceptable. How much clearance 
do I need?

Ray Goree

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817-795-4779

KR> Project Update - Heat Muffs

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Dan,
  I happened to re-read an E-mail you sent earlier about cooling
the oil cooler. Mine is cooled by ram air through the oil cooler and the
air exits through the rear of the cooler. The "ram" air comes from the 
inside
of the cowling. I will check the aircraft logbook for comments. The A
that built and flew  his KR2 for 147 hours on this engine is (or was, I 
don't know)
from Tulsa. (American Airlines).
 Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:23 AM
Subject: KR> Project Update - Heat Muffs
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
> KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Carb on top

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

- Original Message - 
From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:25 PM
Subject: KR> Carb on top


Any builder looking to run with carb on top needs to run one that is similar 
to an auto carb in that it has a good needle and seat style control for 
regulating fuel into the bowl.  The problem that I have seen with alot of 
carbs being adapted to the KR engines is that they are purpose built, just 
not for our purpose.  A carb used on our engines needs to be one designed 
for a moving vehicle, not adapted from an industrial application, or a farm 
tractor, or something else.  A good candidate is the Weber series of carbs. 
Another are the Mikuni carbs from 4 cylinder engines (not from seadoos, not 
large enough) like the Honda Protégé or Accord.  These carbs are designed to 
run daily with engine heat, so on top is okay, and they run with fuel pumps, 
so that is okay. Use the book AUTO MATH BOOK by John Lawlor to calculate the 
necessary cfm requirements for your application and then match the carb to 
it, always choosing to the low side of the cfm requirement. Example: if your 
engine calculates to needing say 368 cfm at your peak rpm, then choose an 
available 350 cfm carb, or 325 cfm whichever is readily available. This is 
one time where bigger is NOT better. Larger will cause hesitations, surging, 
and mixture problems through all ranges except peak rpm (which is what the 
carb would be selected to work at only in this case). Testing has shown that 
an oversized carb will actually cause the engine to slow down, or make less 
power not make more.  Also make sure that it is a factory style carb and not 
after market like a Holley, which will require jetting and adjusting for all 
ranges and changes in season.  Acquire a Carter brand electric pump which 
uses a better pumping mechanism to prevent flooding and has more volume flow 
without the pressure (see the Weber Carb site).  The Posa requires too many 
modifications to make it acceptable. I think Jim Faughn is still running one 
on his 2180 VW.  He goes into alot of detail on his site about it, as does 
Orma. Good reading.

And here is a little tip alot of builders are missing: if you use a carb of 
late model design, say after 1975, it will not only be designed for best 
lean mix which will yield best performance, but will NOT require mixture 
control as it will be equipped with a barometrically controlled diaphragm 
that will automatically lean the mixture as you climb or atmospheric 
conditions change, the same way that the new FADEC engines alter the mix 
with electronic control by leaning the mixture. You will need to set the 
idle mixture and then the rest is preset mechanically based on factory 
adjustments internally. This is why the carb MUST be matched properly to the 
engine.  They also have an accelerator pump eliminating the need for a 
primer system, AND making acceleration smoother due to fuel being added as 
the throttle is opened at the same time, something that even some of the 
aviation carbs do not have which cause the typical popping back and 
hesitation when the throttle is opened rapidly from idle. I have heard 
counter thoughts on this but we cannot replace the decades of development 
that have gone into the successful carbs of later cars. Use as is including 
the choke. The electric choke will do 2 things: make cold starts a 
non-issue, and will allow for an automatic richening of the mix if the 
incoming air is too cold. Power is applied to the choke to keep it hot, so 
the carb temp has to get really low for it to come on, but if it does, the 
mix will richen to compensate for low temp of the incoming air for proper 
fuel atomization. These enhancements took many years to develop and cured 
the mysterious surging, flat spots, "vapor locking" and other drivability 
problems associated with the pre-emission carbs.

Just a quick note: long skinny runners for intake are more rpm sensitive and 
provide a better idle "signal" for smoother acceleration; short fat runners 
are better for overall rpm performance and make more power, but do not 
provide a good "signal" to the carb at low to intermediate rpm.

More on this later

Colin
crain...@cfl.rr.com
http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html
KR2(td) N96TA
Sanford, FL
Apex Lending, Inc.
407-323-6960 (p)
407-557-3260 (f)
crai...@apexlending.com
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KR> Phone Number

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 I am looking for a phone number and an E-mail address for Mike Ladigo
of Tulsa, Ok.
   Thanks, Ray Goree
   
(raybeth...@sbcglobal.net)
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Haveyou seen Mike?

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  I am still looking to get in touch with Mike Ladigo. I plan to use an 
1835 VW engine he built 
 several years ago and I would like to talk to him. I know that Dan Diehl and 
Marty Roberts 
know who he is so, if either one of you happen to see this,  or anyone else 
please get in touch with 
me.

  Thanks, Ray Goree

 (raybeth...@sbcglobal.net)
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Sun N Fun - what a blast!

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  Bill,
  CONGRATULATIONS Bill. What a week you had.
   Tommy Davenport and I look forward to seeing you when you come our 
way.
It was neet that you got to fly your daughter to SNF. Again, 
congratulationson the award.
Tommy and I live only a few miles apart. We will have a place for 
you to stay.
 Ray
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:01 PM
Subject: KR> Sun N Fun - what a blast!


> Here I am - finally home for a few hours.   Ill send out this  note for 
> all
> the KRrs.   Sun N Fun was great.  I went down to  William Wynnes a couple 
> days
> before so that I couldinfo at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Some new Pictures and Video

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Some great pictures and a nice looking plane.
Thanks, Barry.
 Ray Goree   (Arlington, Texas)
- Original Message - 
From: "Barry Kruyssen" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: KR> Some new Pictures and Video


> Hi all,
> 
> Yesterday my father took some photos and video of my KR2 doing fly bys.
> See: http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/Picture_Gallery.htm
> 
> Video links at the top and new photos at the bottom
> 
> Regards
> Barry Kruyssen
> Cairns, Australia
> RAA 19-3873 
> 
> k...@bigpond.com
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm 
> 
> 
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KR> Flight test summary and checklists

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

- Original Message - 
From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 5:22 AM
Subject: KR> Flight test summary and checklists


>I have not posted them to my site, not that Dan would not put them there, 
>but just didn't think to, but I have a normal checklist, and an emergency 
>checklist that I put together for my KR2 from a Cessna 152 set and just 
>omitted or added as necessary for my KR.
> I also have a flight test summary report that I put together for 
> presentation to the DAR when he was inspecting the plane, so that he would 
> have an idea how I intended to flight test the plane. I would be glad to 
> share them with anyone who asks off line and I will forward copies so Dan 
> can add links to them on the site.
>
> Colin & Beverly Rainey
> Apex Lending, Inc.
> 407-323-6960 (p)
> 407-557-3260 (f)
> www.eloan2004cr.com
> crai...@apexlending.com
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KR> E-mail Address

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  Colin Rainey, please send me your E-mail address off-line. The one I have
did not travel. Thanks.
   Ray Goree
"raybeth...@sbcglobal.net"
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Second Flight Report

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Comratulatipns, Mark. I wish you many more happy flights.
 Ray 
Goree
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" ; "Corvaircraft" 
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: KR> Second Flight Report


Today, I flew exactly one hour on my KR. Again the flight was more than 
perfect. Outside temp was 44° and no winds with a ceiling of 12,000'. Again, 
I had full tanks (10 gallons in each wing). After completion of the flight, 
I measured the fuel burn at 5.5 gallons per hour. My maximum altitude during 
this flight was 5,000' with a lot of cruising at 4,000'. I did a lot of 
steep turns both left and right and she would hold altitude with no efforts. 
Again, I flew hands off in straight and level flight with no variations from 
where I let go of the stick. I was hands off for almost 10 seconds!!!. On 
initial climb at take off I held the airspeed at 100 mph, rpm was 2500, oil 
temp was 190°, oil psi was 40, exhaust temp was 1200° and CHT was 280°. I 
did three high speed passes down the runway at approximately 100'. During 
the dive to the airport, I obtained a speed of 175 mph, level over the 
runway 160 mph and when I pulled out she climbed like a homesick angel. At 
4,000' and cruise at WOT, I achieved 150 mph at 2750 rpm, oil temp 190°, oil 
psi 40, exhaust temp 1100, and cht temp 260°. I am very pleased at how this 
KR handles with no surprises so far and also with the engine running as 
smooth as I could expect being it was the first engine I have ever 
completely built. The only thing is that I firmly believe I have too much 
prop and that I should be able to get better top end performance with maybe 
a 52 x 50. I have one that I will be testing soon but for now, I just want 
to enjoy flying for a while. I took off this Monday and will be putting 
several hours on the plane. More reports coming soon

Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

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KR> Bad Spelling

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  KR Netters,
   I apologize for the E-mail just sent to Mark Jones, congratulating him
on another great flight. It was not intended to be sent over the net.
   Yes, I can spell better than that, (when I check my spelling)
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> VW Baffle Question

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Dan,
  Good question, Dan.  I have not done anything yet. I will try to let 
you know
later when I "attack" that problem.  Today, I "glued" the firewall to the 
fuselage.
tomorrow I start the installation of the engine mount and engine. My 
schedule is
something like this.  1.  Run engine in April
   2.  Taxi in May
3.  High speed taxi and first flight in June
4.  Obtain airworthiness certificate and 
start flying 40 hours in July
 5.  Continue flying off time and working 
squawks in August
 Get ready for Mt. Vernon in September


As you can see a rather ambitious schedule--maybe an unreasonable one. I'm 
aiming
for it anyway.
Ray


- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:45 PM
Subject: KR> VW Baffle Question


> The GPASC templates seem to call for the entire back to be dammed up. What
> did you do, if anything, to provide for air flow through your oil cooler?
*
>
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
>
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
>
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> has expired.
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
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KR> EFIS

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  I plan to buy a Dynon EFIS for my KR2S. I have been advised to buy a 
Dynon 10
because a  Dynon 10A will require a  separate encoder, but the Dynon 10 will 
not.
This being the case, I am inquiring if there are any Dynon 10 that may be for 
sale.
( I know the Dynon 10 is no longer in production).

 Ray Goree

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817-795-4779

KR> Kr Costs...

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Thanks,. Bill, for the info. Happy Landings.
  Ray
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:41 AM
Subject: KR> Kr Costs...


> There are a few reasons my plane cost as little as it did.  One, I  waited 
> to
> find a started project.  I found a finished KR2S boat with spars,  all
> fittings, gear, wheels and brakes and all cables and EXP2 bus for only 
> 500.00!  All
> I had to purchase was glass and resin to finish the  plane.   Engine is
> Corvair 2700 that I built myself - firewall forward  @3000.00.  Prop I 
> already had
> from other KR.   Gauges are  inexpensive Mirco 1000 and VDO.   Handheld 
> radio
> (borrowed) and GPS  (borrowed).  I kept everything simple and built 
> everything
> only ONCE!   That is how I have so little in it yet it performs great! 
> Ill
> do a better  job on my next one - if I every take the time to build it.  I 
> am
> enjoying  this one tremendously.   Planning some trips to Central and 
> South
> America in the future...   Bill
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KR> I'm a pilot again! YEEEEHAAWWWW!!!

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Congratulations, Steve.  This is good news that you are back in the air 
again.

  Ray 
Goree










- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Glover" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:26 PM
Subject: KR> I'm a pilot again! YHAA!!!
>
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KR> Stainless Steel on Firewall

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   KRNET<
   I will soon be adding fiberfrax and the stainless steel to the firewall.
Does the stainless steel bond well to the fiberfrax?
  Ray Goree
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Sport Aviation

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  This E-mail is directed to Steve Jones   
  Steve, until I have your E-mail address, I am going this route. I have 
read , 
wit considerable interest, the article by Jack Cox, about your KR2 building
experience. You are to be congratulated. Please consider it done. You have 
built 
a beautiful flying machine. I can only hope mine turns out so well.
  The article mentions that you did all this for $12,000. Did that include 
that 
nice instrument panel? I started my KR2S about 10 yers ago and did some 
scrounging
myself buying at least three groups of parts from builders who decided not to 
continue
building or flying. I estimate I can have mine flying (with primer only) for 
$18,000. That 
does include the panel.
   I hope to see you at the Gathering. 
   May you have many HAPPY LANDINGS.

   Ray Goree

   Arlington, Texas

   raybeth...@sbcglobal.net

Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Timber top deck

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

I covered my inner wings and turtledeck with 1/16 inch thick plywood.
I haven't flown yet and no problems this far. I did cover the plywood
with one layer of KR (6oz. fiberglass) and one layer of deck(11/2 oz.)
fiberglass.
Ray 
Goree 

KR> Selling my Kr?

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Jack Cooper,
   What a bummer, your accident. I am really sorry for what happened to 
you.
   My thoughts and prayers are with you. Keep on keeping on. Get well 
soon.
   Ray 
Goree  Arlington,  Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "robert glidden" 
To: ; "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:04 AM
ther KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> Been Real Busy

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

I see you have been busy. It shows. that is one nice looking
cockpit.
  Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: KR> Been Real Busy


> Check out the new look of the Wannabee.
>
> Does it look familiar to anyone?
>
>
>
> http://kr-builder.org/ Home page pic.
>
>
>
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
>
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> has expired.
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
>
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KR> Cowling molds

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Jack,
   I just received an E-mail from Mark Langford answerring my inquiry
about using his cowling mold. He said to check with you. He mentioned
that the mold is for a Corvair engine. Is that what you are making the 
cowling for?
I may have jumped to conclusions. I need a cowling for a KR2S  (1835 VW).
By the way, Where do you live?
   Ray Goree 
Arlington, Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Cooper" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:30 PM
Subject: KR> Cowling molds


> Just to let everyone know,especially Mark Langford, I received the cowling 
> molds today. So far I have washed them and applied two coats of partall #2 
> wax. Tomorrow I will apply more wax and spray on some partall #10 and if 
> things go well start laying up some carbon fiber.
>
>
> Jack Cooper
> kr2coo...@earthlink.net
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KR> So Cal

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Steve,
I know I'm late sending this. As I was looking again at you message to the 
net,
I remembered that you are the one that had the really sharp KR2 at the 
gathering.
What is your situation now?
  Ray Goree 
Arlington, Texas  (raybeth...@sbcglobal.net)
 Did you and Shirley get out of the airport okay?
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Glover" <kr...@cox.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: KR> So Cal


> We moved once to the far end of the airport.  Most stuff in the hangars 
> are
> a complete loss.  The water level wasn't supposed to get as high as it is,
> and it is still rising.  We are leaving in a few to try and fly out on 
> what
> is left of the runway.  Rich Seifert is also based at Corona.
> 

KR> When it rains it-------

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Steve,
I wish I had some GOOD news for you. You certainly have had more than your
share of the other kind. I do hope things are starting to turn around by now.
You sound like the kind of person that may get "down" but like that old 
saying.
" when the going gets tough, the tough get going"
Hang in there. Please send me your E-mail address so I won't need to use 
the KRnet.
  Ray,  
Arlington, Texas
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> One more small step

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Congratulations, Dan.It is fun and reassuring when gadgets work like 
they are supposed to.
 Thanks, 
Ray
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:13 PM
Subject: KR> One more small step


> Today, I finally got my stick buttons wired. I hooked up the battery and
> turned on all the switches. The elec turn coordinator started whining. I
> pushed the down trim button and the tab responded, I pushed the up button
> and again the tab responded appropriately. All those wires and it always
> amazes me when things work as designed. Now I have to figure out how to 
> get
> the PTT to control the Sportys hand held.
>
>
>

KR> Lift and flight wind tunnel tested

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Larry,
I took a look at the website you mentioned. I sure can't argue with what
I read. I'm not sure what it said,. but for sure, I can't argue with it. You 
are
right, this should put an end to arguments. This man is very knowledgeable.
Bernouli may not have all the answers--He is easier to understand.
  Thanks,Ray Goree
- Original Message - 
From: "larry severson" 
To: "kRnet" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:47 AM
Subject: KR> Lift and flight wind tunnel tested


> For those who really want to know, this should be the definitive end to 
> all
> arguments about lift, drag due to lift, and the impact of winglets.
> This was sent to me by a non-member, but frequent viewer of the KRnet.
>
>>Hi
>>
>>For those struggling to understand principles of lift etc I would
>>thoroughly recommend that they have a look at
>>http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html
>>which is a very interesting read.
>>Best regards
>>
>>Paul
>
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com
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KR> Weight and Balance

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

If Randy Snith, the author of this E-mail, is the Randy Smith of Denton, 
Texas,
please reply to me Ray Goree of Arlington, Texas. I would like to talk with 
you.
raybeth...@sbcglobal.net 817-795-4779 

KR> Aviation Products

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  Dan, Brian and KR Netters.
On the internet, I type in " aviationproducts.com" and it says it is for sale
and tells who to contact. I hope I am wrong.
   Ray Goree
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Aviation Products

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Thanks, All, for setting me straight about Aviation Products. I am glad I 
was wrong.
I will be calling them soon. I am interested in their product.

 Ray Goree
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Tail wheel

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Thanks, Larry
   Ray goree
- Original Message - 
From: "larry severson" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Tail wheel


> At 11:56 PM 11/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>It would be a shame if they were out of business.  Maybe it is not the 
>>same
>>company.  The sticker on my Midget Mustang wheel says they are in Ojai, 
>>CA,
>>phone 805-646-6042.  I would not be surprised if that area code has 
>>changed
>>since the wheel has been there for a while.
>

KR> Question

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen and Janet Henderson" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:18 PM
Subject: KR> Question

KR> Question

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen and Janet Henderson" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:18 PM
Subject: KR> Question


> Does anyone know Larry Flesner's email address? Any help would be greatly 
> appreci

fles...@midwest.netRay Goree 

KR> Searching for OK based KR's

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Hi, Grant,
I have been looking for the phone number, but have not found it.
One really nice KR belongs to Marty Roberts in Tulsa. He has his plane
based at the airport in Jenks. If you don't find his number, contact Dan 
Diehl
at Diehl Aeronautical, in Jenks.
   Ray Goree 
Arlington, Texas
- Original Message - 
From: "Grant Watkins" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:22 AM
Subject: KR> Searching for OK based KR's


> Hi All,
>
> I'm new to the list so if I make any mistakes please let me know.
>
> First, I'm an aviation enthusiast.  I love aviation.  I've been enfatuated 
> with anything that would fly since I was 5 or 6 years old.  I was lucky 
> enough to start flying while I was in college.  I obtained my pilots 
> license shortly after graduating from college in 1997.  Since that time, 
> I've not been able to do much flying at all.  I have a couple of friends 
> that I get to go flying with occasionally, but don't get any PIC time.
>
> Anyway, I've recently began considering building my own aircraft.  I''ve 
> looked at all sorts of kit planes and have settled on a few.  One of the 
> kits that I have settled on is the KR-2.  I'm also considering the 
> Dragonfly and the Sonerai II.  I really like the KR for it's low cost, 
> high efficiency, and the impressive cruise speed.
>
> I'm looking for someone in Oklahoma that has a plans or kit build KR-2. 
> I'd really like to look at one up close and personal and be able to talk 
> to a builder in person before making the decision to start building.  So, 
> if there are any KR-2 owners in Oklahoma (I'm in the Tulsa area) please 
> respond to this post.  I'd really like to meet you.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Grant Watkins
>
>
> -
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Discover all that's new in My Yahoo!





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KR> Dallas area man looking for KR builder

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

 Will the  Irving or Dallas area man who sent an E-mail to me  today,
please contact me again and I will get in touch with you. I accidentally
deleted your E-mail to me and could not find it. I live in Arlington and am 
buikding a KR2S.
 Ray Goree
(raybeth...@sbcglobal.net)
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> PINK SLIP

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

.krnet.org/info.html
CONGRATULATIONS MARK
YOU HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT EXPRESS YOUR EXCITEMENT FOR AWHILE 

Ray  Goree 

KR> Tail wheel

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Brian,
In the archives, an E-mail of yours, mentioned Aviation Products for a tail 
wheel. I tried 
to contact them and was told they had gone out of business. Do you have any 
info 
on this?  Do you like your Matco unit? I am building a KR2S.
 Ray 
raybeth...@sbcglobal.net
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Flight controls

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Dan,
I do not think I sent you, or the Net, this E-mail. I do want to clear 
up the statement
"only have 25 up and 20 down".  I believe we are talking about the aileron 
and it requires
20 up and 10 down, does it not? Since not all pertinent info is in this 
E-mail, I just want
to make sure I,m seeing it right.

Thanks,   Ray

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Flight controls


> Don't know if that is enough for all situations and would be concerned as 
> to
> why. As far as the inspector is concerned, I doubt that he will have any
> idea what it should be unless you tell him.
>
> But, again, I would be concerned why you only have 25 up and 20 down.
>
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for 
> building
> has expired.
>
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> I can only get 25 up and 20 down. Will that be enough? And will the FAA 
> inspector allow that to be off from the plans.
>
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KR> the heartbreak of Spraylat

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Congratulations, Mark.  You are on well on your way
to fulfilling your dream.
  Ray Goree
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: KR> the heartbreak of Spraylat


> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Langford" 
>   I'm working on your "more beer" suggestion...
>
>
> Excellent, I will have one with you. I just finished loading up my right
> wing for the trip to the airport in the morning. It is complete and I will
> be installing it on the plane while I await the arrival of a couple of KR
> builders who are meeting me at the airport. The left wing is painted and
> almost complete. It will be installed next weekend and then I am ready for
> inspection and flightfinally, after 6 1/2 years.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
>
>
>
>
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KR> Mylar Gap Seals

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:42 AM
Subject: KR> Mylar Gap Seals


> Ever wanted to seal those gaps on your ailerons or even your rudder and
> horizontal stabilizer? Troy Petteway has proven performance can be greatly
> enhanced, especially your climb performance, if you close the gaps on the
> bottom of your ailerons. This is especially true on the new AS50xx 
> airfoil.
> The best material we have found so far to do this with is Mylar strips. 
> The
> Mylar has a thickness of .010 (10 mil) and is held on the wing with 3M 
> #444
> double sided tape. Here is the dilemma. So far I have only been able to
> locate the .010 Mylar in sheets 24" x 48" and the company that sells it 
> has
> a $100 minimum. That means at $7.41 per sheet we would have to buy 14
> sheets. That is a lot of gap sealing material. Solution: Group buy!!! Is
> anyone interested in going in on this with me and Mark Langford? I figure 
> we
> could cut the sheets in strips four inches wide and that would give us 84
> strips 48" long for a total 336 feet of 4" wide strips. Now there is no 
> way
> two of us will ever use that much gap seal material so what do ya say...
> anybody else want in on this? If anyone else knows where we can buy this 
> in
> lesser quantities or even in 4" wide rolls please speak up. So you ask, 
> what
> is your cost? Depends on how many people want in on this. Ten folks, 
> fifteen
> bucks each. Twenty people, ten bucks each. This includes shipping cost to
> you. You will receive enough Mylar to do your ailerons (four 4" x 48"
> strips). Additional strips available at additional cost.  All of the Mylar
> that is left over will be donated to the Prop Bank and sold in the future 
> to
> those that need it and those proceeds will be deposited in the Prop Bank
> funds. You will be responsible for getting your own double sided tape.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
>
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KR> canopy height, panel height, cockpit width

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Mark,
I say "ditto" to what you have said about height and width. I have 
yet to ride in  a KR. I am 6'21/2" tall.
I weigh  200.  I have had 2 opportunities to ride in a KR2 and a KR2S. Both 
times my head touched the canopy top.
I made my cabin 4" wider at the outside. I gave up the convenience and looks 
of a formed plexiglass canopy, and made
my own formers, and now I wish I had made them an inch higher. I do have 
clearance, but just barely. Now I have a
31/2" wide console down the center of my cockpit. There I have my rudder 
cables and turnbuckles for adjustment. I also
have an armrest.
   As you have mentioned, one change made makes necessary others 
(plural).  I don't know how necessary it was,
but I added 6" to the length of my center spar, to offset the extra width of 
the cockpit.
  Happy Building.  And, let's don't give up.

  Ray Goree (raybeth...@sbcglobal.net)
>
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KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 173

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

I like your spirit, Brian
  Ray goree
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 173


> In a message dated 10/21/2004 10:22:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> krnet-requ...@mylist.net writes:
> Well here I was with a 1/4" drill bit locking pin holding my canopy locked
> closed and no tools to get it out.  After about five minutes I realized I
> had my cell phone and I had to call my answering machine in the house 
> about
> 15 times to wake up my wife so she could come to the garage and get me a
> pair of pliers to pull out the drill bit.  I had a hell of a time getting
> her to wake up and was about to call Dean Cooper and ask him to drive over
> and get me out.
>
> Don't try this one yourself.
>
> Brian Kraut
> This made me giggle I love this crowd who else would have a story like 
> this?
>
> "People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing
> it." George Bernard Shaw, (1856-1950) Irish playwight and winner of the 
> Nobel
> Prize for Literature 1925 Yours Bill
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KR> New addition

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

- Original Message - 
From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: KR> New addition


info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
   Colin and Bev Rainey
Congratulations  on the new arrival. What a great feeling that must be.
 Ray  Goree

KR> Tail Wheel

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  This is primarily for  John(?) Bouyea. The E-mail address I have for him 
did not work.
   I have been looking at the bouyea website and the pictures of your 
tailwheel assy.
It seems to raise the aft end by about 12 inches. I plan to do the same on my 
KR2S. I would 
like to know if this gives a good view over the instrument panel and are there 
any adverse 
effects on the amount of weight on the tail wheel?
Ray Goree
817-795-4779