Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-04 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
Hi Dave, Thanks long explanation. Secondly, You misparsed avoid direct reclaim paragraph. We don't talk about avoid direct reclaim even if system memory is no enough, We talk about avoid direct reclaim by preparing before. I don't think I misparsed it. I am addressing the avoid direct

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-03 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:17:56PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: But, I agree that now we have to concern slightly large VM change parhaps (or parhaps not). Ok, it's good opportunity to fill out some thing. Historically, Linux MM has free memory are waste memory policy, and It

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-03 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
Hm. OK, I may misread. Can you please explain the reason why de-duplication feature need to selectable and disabled by defaut. explicity enable mean this feature want to spot corner case issue?? Yes, because given a selection of choices (including what you mentioned

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-03 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web server, mail server, et al). because zone recliam make

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-03 Thread Christoph Lameter
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011, Dave Chinner wrote: Fundamentally, if you just switch off memory reclaim to avoid the latencies involved with direct memory reclaim, then all you'll get instead is ENOMEM because there's no memory available and none will be reclaimed. That's even more fatal for the system

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-03 Thread Christoph Lameter
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: 1) Some bios don't have such knob. btw, OK, yes, *I* can switch NUMA off completely because I don't have such bios. 2) bios level turning off makes some side effects, example, scheduler load balancing don't care numa anymore. Well then lets add a

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-03 Thread Dave Chinner
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 06:32:16PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:17:56PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: But, I agree that now we have to concern slightly large VM change parhaps (or parhaps not). Ok, it's good opportunity to fill out some thing.

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
Hi 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web server, mail server, et al). because zone recliam make some much free pages than zone-pages_min and then new page cache request consume nearest node

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread Balbir Singh
* KOSAKI Motohiro kosaki.motoh...@jp.fujitsu.com [2011-04-01 16:56:57]: Hi 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web server, mail server, et al). because zone recliam make some much free pages

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
Hi Christoph, Thanks, long explanation. On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web server, mail server, et al). because zone recliam make some much free

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
* KOSAKI Motohiro kosaki.motoh...@jp.fujitsu.com [2011-04-01 16:56:57]: Hi 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web server, mail server, et al). because zone recliam make some much free

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread Christoph Lameter
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web server, mail server, et al). because zone recliam make some much

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread Balbir Singh
* Andrew Morton a...@linux-foundation.org [2011-03-30 22:32:31]: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:57:03 +0530 Balbir Singh bal...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: * Andrew Morton a...@linux-foundation.org [2011-03-30 16:36:07]: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:00:26 +0530 Balbir Singh

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread Balbir Singh
* KOSAKI Motohiro kosaki.motoh...@jp.fujitsu.com [2011-04-01 22:21:26]: * KOSAKI Motohiro kosaki.motoh...@jp.fujitsu.com [2011-04-01 16:56:57]: Hi 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread Satoru Moriya
On 04/01/2011 09:17 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: Hi Christoph, Thanks, long explanation. On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web server, mail server, et al).

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-04-01 Thread Dave Chinner
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:17:56PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: But, I agree that now we have to concern slightly large VM change parhaps (or parhaps not). Ok, it's good opportunity to fill out some thing. Historically, Linux MM has free memory are waste memory policy, and It worked

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-31 Thread Balbir Singh
* KOSAKI Motohiro kosaki.motoh...@jp.fujitsu.com [2011-03-31 14:40:33]: The following series implements page cache control, this is a split out version of patch 1 of version 3 of the page cache optimization patches posted earlier at Previous posting http://lwn.net/Articles/425851/ and

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-31 Thread Christoph Lameter
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: 1) zone reclaim doesn't work if the system has multiple node and the workload is file cache oriented (eg file server, web server, mail server, et al). because zone recliam make some much free pages than zone-pages_min and then new page

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-31 Thread Dave Chinner
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:00:26AM +0530, Balbir Singh wrote: The following series implements page cache control, this is a split out version of patch 1 of version 3 of the page cache optimization patches posted earlier at Previous posting http://lwn.net/Articles/425851/ and analysis at

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-31 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:00:26AM +0530, Balbir Singh wrote: The following series implements page cache control, this is a split out version of patch 1 of version 3 of the page cache optimization patches posted earlier at Previous posting http://lwn.net/Articles/425851/ and analysis

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-31 Thread Balbir Singh
* Dave Chinner da...@fromorbit.com [2011-04-01 08:40:33]: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:00:26AM +0530, Balbir Singh wrote: The following series implements page cache control, this is a split out version of patch 1 of version 3 of the page cache optimization patches posted earlier at

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-31 Thread Dave Chinner
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 08:38:11AM +0530, Balbir Singh wrote: * Dave Chinner da...@fromorbit.com [2011-04-01 08:40:33]: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:00:26AM +0530, Balbir Singh wrote: The following series implements page cache control, this is a split out version of patch 1 of version

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Morton
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:00:26 +0530 Balbir Singh bal...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Data from the previous patchsets can be found at https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/30/79 It would be nice if the data for the current patchset was present in the current patchset's changelog! -- To unsubscribe from

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-30 Thread Balbir Singh
* Andrew Morton a...@linux-foundation.org [2011-03-30 16:36:07]: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:00:26 +0530 Balbir Singh bal...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Data from the previous patchsets can be found at https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/30/79 It would be nice if the data for the current patchset

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Morton
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:57:03 +0530 Balbir Singh bal...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: * Andrew Morton a...@linux-foundation.org [2011-03-30 16:36:07]: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:00:26 +0530 Balbir Singh bal...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Data from the previous patchsets can be found at

Re: [PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-30 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
The following series implements page cache control, this is a split out version of patch 1 of version 3 of the page cache optimization patches posted earlier at Previous posting http://lwn.net/Articles/425851/ and analysis at http://lwn.net/Articles/419713/ Detailed Description

[PATCH 0/3] Unmapped page cache control (v5)

2011-03-29 Thread Balbir Singh
The following series implements page cache control, this is a split out version of patch 1 of version 3 of the page cache optimization patches posted earlier at Previous posting http://lwn.net/Articles/425851/ and analysis at http://lwn.net/Articles/419713/ Detailed Description