Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi,
Here is the Turkish translation of the help mainpage:
{{Lang|{{ProductName}}Yardım'a Hoşgeldiniz!}}
div id=mf-page title=Welcome
[http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ {{ProductName}}] yardım
uygulamasını kullandığınız için teşekkür ederiz.
{{ProductName}}yazılımıyla ilgili ne zaman yardıma ihtiyacınız olursa
F1 tuşuna basın, ardından bu siteye yönlendirileceksiniz. Alternatif
olarak ana dilinizde çevrimdışı gömülü yardım sürümünü sisteminize
yükleyebilirsiniz.
Eğer sadece yardım içeriğinde gezinmek istiyorsanız, daha kolay
gezinti için lütfen gezintinize başlamak için aşağıdaki giriş
noktalarını takip edin:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help|{{ProductName}} Writer]] (kelime işlemci)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (hesap tabloları)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help|{{ProductName}} Impress]] (sunumlar)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (çizim)
* [[Common/Database_1|{{ProductName}} Base]] (veritabanı işlemleri)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help|{{ProductName}} Math]] (formül düzenleme)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (Basic dilini kullanarak
programlama)
== Nasıl Katkı Verebilirim ==
Şu anda hala çevrimdışı yardım içeriğini çevrimiçi erişilebilir hale
dönüştürme araçları üzerinde iyileştirmeler yapmaktayız. Daha sonra
yardım içerik sayfalarını iyileştirmek için katılabileceksiniz.
Planlar [http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp The
Document Foundation wiki] adresinde bulunmaktadır.
Wiki yazılımı ile ilgili bilgi için
[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents User's Guide] adresine
başvurun.
/div
Best regards,
Zeki
2013/4/11 Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com:
This is the Danish translation of the welcome page:
{{OrigLang|Velkommen til {{ProductName}} hjælpen!}}
div id=mf-page title=Velkommen
Tak fordi du bruger
[http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/{{ProductName}}] hjælpen.
Tryk på F1 når som helst du ønsker at få hjælp i
{{ProductName}} programmet, og du vil automatisk blive dirigeret til dette
sted. Som alternativ kan du installere off-line versionen af hjælpen på dit
eget sprog.
Hvis du ønsker at gennemse hjælpen, benyt da denne hovedmenu som indgang
til at finde rundt:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
(tekstbehandling)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (regneark)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(præsentationer)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (tegninger)
* [[Common/Database_1/da|{{ProductName}} Base]] (database)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Math]]
(formelredigering)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help/da|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (programmering med Basic)
== Hvordan kan du bidrage ==
På nuværende tidspunkt er vi i gang med at finpudse konvertering fra
off-line hjælpen. Senere kan du bidrage ved at forbedre hjælpesiderne.
Disse planer er beskrevet i [
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp The Document
Foundation wiki] (Engelsk).
Besøg [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents User's Guide] for
oplysninger om at bruge wiki programmet.
/div
Cheers,
Leif
2013/1/15 Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz
Hi,
I got a report that
https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page
is not translated - which is true. In order to be translated to your
language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT,
PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the
translation of its source, that is of
https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page
If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail - I do
not want to do Wikihelp editable, as all the pages except the Main_Page
are still just generated from the LibreOffice Help, and it might lead to
confusion.
Thank you a lot,
Kendy
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi all,
On 15/01/2013 20:27, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
Hi,
I got a report that
https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page
is not translated - which is true. In order to be translated to your
language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT,
PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the
translation of its source, that is of
https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page
Here is the translation of the FR page :
--
{{Lang|Bienvenue dans l'aide de {{ProductName
div id=mf-page title=Bienvenue
Merci d'utiliser l'application d'aide de
[http://fr.libreoffice.org/telecharger/ {{ProductName}}]. Appuyez sur F1
lorsque vous avez besoin d'aide à l'utilisation du logiciel
{{ProductName}} et vous serez alors redirigé sur ce site. Vous pouvez
également installer une version hors ligne de l'aide dans votre langue.
Si vous souhaitez naviguer dans l'aide, vous pouvez utiliser les points
d'entrée suivants pour une navigation facilitée :
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
(traitement de texte)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (classeur)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(présentations)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (dessin)
* [[Common/Database_1|{{ProductName}} Base]] (base de données)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help|{{ProductName}} Math]] (éditeur de
formules mathématiques)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (programmation utilisant le
langage Basic)
== Comment participer ==
Actuellement, nous travaillons sur l'outil permettant de convertir
l'aide dans sa version en ligne. Dans quelques temps, il vous sera
possible de participer à l'amélioration des pages d'aide. La description
des étapes est disponible sur
[http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp The Document
Foundation wiki].
Consultez les pages [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents User's
Guide] pour des informations sur l'utilisation du wiki.
/div
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Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Dear translators! On 2013.01.15. 20:27, Jan Holesovsky wrote: I got a report that https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page is not translated - which is true. In order to be translated to your language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT, PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the translation of its source, that is of https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail. The translations were uploaded today. Also, the list of the supported languages in WikiHelp has been extended. So I'm looking forward to receiving the missing translations from you. Please check https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page Thanks, Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andras Em 09-04-2013 06:09, Andras Timar escreveu: Dear translators! (snip) The translations were uploaded today. Also, the list of the supported languages in WikiHelp has been extended. So I'm looking forward to receiving the missing translations from you. Please check https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page Thanks, Andras On entering pt-BR, all links points to the english page. In other words, if I click on Calc, I land into the english Calc page. Looks like all links on the localized main help miss the pt-BR suffix in their url. e.g. Change https://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help to https://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help/pt-BR Easy to fix, but I don't have the rights for. Thanks and Regards - -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Fundação responsável civilmente, de acordo com o direito civil Detalhes Legais: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRY+RkAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLx57UIAI0Uqz7zlBahXkTDRJVsz8cP rqM1P01ukAicZ0ePToAlmuZHFY7CstayPP28mEtcM6vZvaaVqhXfMhhfzPbj3ZQH 3Fqw7P1KYeu8R4eWPCh4fmX2V276Z95e8SHrHaLNnygzrVOOPbOmNxOii5l90SwS nTzw0U7d4/RpC6ldVacRWzEsY44P8X2bPt/8J0lCWm8Bj8zdaqvONtmxJt86qMmr kpyWtqFYf5EbZlLSvq16quMlBqtaAOfUIySkEcw7WcdMBMvkgUEFSJG0FsjHjBpe y+pLN4vD2axQ9hxCoNh2smJKca99dVhnsd+joQ6qeaLQa/lIyZJViWaUu73kFdY= =GqvN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi!
On Tuesday 09 April 2013, Andras Timar wrote:
The translations were uploaded today. Also, the list of the supported
languages in WikiHelp has been extended. So I'm looking forward to
receiving the missing translations from you. Please check
https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page
Thanks for extending the support to new languages! I have attached the Finnish
translation of the main page at the end of this message.
Harri
{{Lang|Tervetuloa {{ProductName}}n ohjeisiin!}}
div id=mf-page title=Welcome
Kiitos, että käytät [http://fi.libreoffice.org/lataa/ {{ProductName}}]n
ohjeita. Käyttäessäsi {{ProductName}}a pääset näihin ohjeisiin painamalla F1-
näppäintä. Vaihtoehtoisesti voit asentaa omalle kielellesi tehdyn ohjepaketin
koneellesi, jolloin verkkoyhteyttä ei tarvita.
Jos haluat selata ohjeita, pääset liikkeelle seuraavilta sovelluskohtaisilta
aloitussivuilta:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
(tekstinkäsittely)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (taulukkolaskenta)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(esitysgrafiikka)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (piirtäminen)
* [[Common/Database_1/fi|{{ProductName}} Base]] (tietokantojen hallinta)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Math]] (kaavojen
muokkaaminen)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (ohjelmointi Basic-kielellä)
== Kuinka voit osallistua ==
Tällä hetkellä parantelemme vielä työkaluja, joilla sovelluksen ohjeista
muodostetaan nämä verkkosivut. Myöhemmin voit osallistua ohjeiden sisällön
kehittämiseen. Suunnitelmat on kuvattu
[http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp/fi The Document
Foundationin wikissä].
Katso [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents MediaWikin käyttöoppaasta]
ohjeita wiki-ohjelmiston käyttöön.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi all,
The Russian translation:
{{OrigLang|Добро пожаловать в справочное руководство {{ProductName}}!}}
div id=mf-page title=Добро пожаловать
Благодарим за использование справки
[http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ {{ProductName}}]. Нажатие
F1 в {{ProductName}} всякий раз, когда потребуется помощь, будет
приводить вас на этот сайт. Вместо этого можно установить
оффлайн-версию справочного руководства на родном языке.
Для просмотра справочного руководства воспользуйтесь следующими ссылками:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help/ru|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
(текстовые документы)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help/ru|{{ProductName}} Calc]]
(электронные таблицы)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help/ru|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(презентации)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help/ru|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (рисунки)
* [[Common/Database_1/ru|{{ProductName}} Base]] (базы данных)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help/ru|{{ProductName}} Math]] (формулы)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help/ru|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (программирование на
языке Basic)
== Как принять участие ==
Мы всё ещё настраиваем инструмент преобразования оффлайн-версии
справки в онлайн-форму. Возможность принять участие в улучшении
справочного руководства будет добавлена позже. Наши планы приведены на
странице [http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp The
Document Foundation wiki].
Информацию об использовании вики смотрите на странице
[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents User's Guide].
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi Hungarian is here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kelemeng/hlo-hu.txt Regards Gabor Kelemen 2013-01-15 20:27 keltezéssel, Jan Holesovsky írta: Hi, I got a report that https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page is not translated - which is true. In order to be translated to your language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT, PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the translation of its source, that is of https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail - I do not want to do Wikihelp editable, as all the pages except the Main_Page are still just generated from the LibreOffice Help, and it might lead to confusion. Thank you a lot, Kendy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
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Hi Kendy
Here is the pt-BR translation:
- -%
{{OrigLang|Bem-vindo à ajuda do {{ProductName}}!}}
div id=mf-page title=Welcome
Obrigado por usar a ajuda on-line do
[http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ {{ProductName}}]. Pressione
F1 assim quando precisar de ajuda na utilização do {{ProductName}} e
você será redirecionado para a página correspondente deste site. Você
também pode baixar e instalar o pacote de ajuda no seu idioma e
instalá-lo no seu computador.
Se desejar somente navegar pela Ajuda, utilize uma das entradas para
facilitar a navegação:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help|{{ProductName}} Writer]] (editor
de textos)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (planilhas)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(apresentações)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (desenhos)
* [[Common/Database_1|{{ProductName}} Base]] (banco de dados)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help|{{ProductName}} Math]] (editor de
fórmulas científicas)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (programação usando a
linguagem Basic)
== Como participar ==
No momento, estamos ajustando as ferramentas para converter a ajuda
off-line no formato on-line. Mais tarde, será possível participar e
melhorar as páginas da Ajuda. O planejamento está detalhado em
[http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp Wiki da The
Document Foundation].
Consulte o [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents Guia do
usuário] para informações sobre a utilização do software Wiki.
/div
- -%
Thank you for taking care of it.
- --
Olivier Hallot
Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation
The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
Fundação responsável civilmente, de acordo com o direito civil
Detalhes Legais: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese
+55-21-8822-8812
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi
I've translated the text to Swedish (sv), but want to raise a question
before i submit the translation. Under the section How to Participate we
do not say anything about how translation or creation of the help files
are done today. I would propose to write something like:
**
At the moment the help files are being translated together with the rest
of {{ProductName}}. For more information on how translation works visit
[https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translating_LibreOffice Translating
{{ProductName}}].
**
As you've already mentioned creation of new help files is a bit of a
hassle so I don't know if we want to mention that at the moment and if
we do I do not know how we should do it.
We later link to the page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp. Is the
information on that page still valid? In that case could we update the
heading Future Plans (3.4) on that page, at least to me it sounds like
the future plans for version LibreOffice 3.4 which isn't so much in the
future anymore.
Regards,
Niklas Johansson
Jan Holesovsky skrev 2013-01-15 20:27:
Hi,
I got a report that
https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page
is not translated - which is true. In order to be translated to your
language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT,
PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the
translation of its source, that is of
https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page
If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail - I do
not want to do Wikihelp editable, as all the pages except the Main_Page
are still just generated from the LibreOffice Help, and it might lead to
confusion.
Thank you a lot,
Kendy
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi,
Here is a Japanese translation by Mr. Yusuke Arai.
Thanks, Arai-san!
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{{OrigLang|{{ProductName}} ヘルプへようこそ！}}
div id=mf-page title=Welcome
[http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ {{ProductName}}]
LibreOfficeのヘルプを使ってくれてありがとうございます。{{ProductName}} を使っているとき必要になったら F1
キーを押すとヘルプが表示され、このサイトに転送されます。あなたのお使いの言語のオフラインバージョンのヘルプをインストールすることもできます。
もし、ヘルプだけを閲覧したいのであれば、以下の入り口を使えば簡単に閲覧することができます：
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help|{{ProductName}} Writer]] (文書作成)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (表計算)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help|{{ProductName}} Impress]] (プレゼンテーション)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (図形作成)
* [[Common/Database_1|{{ProductName}} Base]] (データベース)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help|{{ProductName}} Math]] (数式)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (ベーシック言語を使ったプログラミング)
== 参加するには ==
今のところ、オフラインヘルプをオンラインヘルプに変換するツールはチューニング中です。そのツールができたら、ヘルプページを改良する作業に参加することができるようになるでしょう。計画については
[http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp The Document
Foundation の wiki (英語)] に記載されています。
Wiki ソフトウェアの使い方については[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents
ユーザーズガイド]を参照してください。
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
2013/1/15 Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz
If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail - I do
not want to do Wikihelp editable, as all the pages except the Main_Page
are still just generated from the LibreOffice Help, and it might lead to
confusion.
Hi Jan,
This is the PT translation:
{{OrigLang|Bem-vindo à ajuda do {{ProductName}}!}}
div id=mf-page title=Welcome
Obrigado por utilizar a ajuda web do [
http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ {{ProductName}}]. Sempre que
precisar de ajuda na utilização do {{ProductName}}, prima F1 que será
reencaminhado para este sítio. Em alternativa, pode transferir e instalar a
versão local da ajuda.
Se quiser explorar a ajuda, utilize um dos itens abaixo:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
(processamento de texto)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (folhas de cálculo)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(apresentações)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (desenhos)
* [[Common/Database_1|{{ProductName}} Base]] (bases de dados)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help|{{ProductName}} Math]] (edição de
fórmulas)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (programação na linguagem
Basic)
== Como participar ==
De momento, estamos a melhorar as ferramentas de conversão da ajuda local
para a ajuda web. Posteriormente, poderá ajudar a melhorar as páginas de
ajuda. O nosso planeamento está descrito no [
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp wiki da The
Document Foundation].
Consulte o [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents guia de
utilizador] para mais informações.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Jan Holesovsky wrote (15-01-13 20:27)
https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page
NL:
{{OrigLang|Welcome to {{ProductName}} Help!}}
div id=mf-page title=Welcome
Dank u wel voor het gebruiken van de
[http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ {{ProductName}}] help.
Toets F1 wanneer u maar hulp nodig heeft bij het gebruiken van de
{{ProductName}} software, en u zal doorgestuurd worden naar deze
website. Het is ook mogelijk om een on-line versie van de Help in uw
eigen taal op de computer te installeren.
Als u alleen door de helpt wilt bladeren, gebruik dan de volgende
ingangen om makkelijk te navigeren:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
(tekstverwerking)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (werkbladen)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(presentaties)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (tekenen)
* [[Common/Database_1|{{ProductName}} Base]] (databases)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help|{{ProductName}} Math]] (formule editer)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (programmeren met de Basic
taal)
== Hoe te helpen ==
Op dit moment verbeteren we nog de hulpmiddelen om de off-line help om
te zetten naar de vorm on-line. Op een later moment kunt u ook
bijdragen aan het verbeteren van de Help-pagina's. De plannen worden
uitgelegd in [http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp de
wiki van The Document Foundation].
Raadpleeg de [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents
Gebruikershandleiding ] voor informatie over het gebruik van wiki software.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
El 15 de gener de 2013 22.18, Joan Montané j...@montane.cat ha escrit:
Hi,
following you have CA (Catalan) translation
Best regards,
Joan Montané
{{OrigLang|Us donem la benviguda a l'ajuda del {{ProductName}}!}}
div id=mf-page title=Ús donem la benvinguda
Please, fix a typo. Replace this line by the following one in Catalan
translation.
div id=mf-page title=Us donem la benvinguda
So, Ús donem - Us donem, thanks.
Best regards,
Joan Montané
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
2013/1/15 Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz Hi, I got a report that https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page is not translated - which is true. In order to be translated to your language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT, PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the translation of its source, that is of https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail - I do not want to do Wikihelp editable, as all the pages except the Main_Page are still just generated from the LibreOffice Help, and it might lead to confusion. Thank you a lot, Kendy -- Hi Jan One question. Should div id=mf-page title=Welcome be translated? Regards -- Sérgio Marques -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi, I got a report that https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page is not translated - which is true. In order to be translated to your language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT, PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the translation of its source, that is of https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail - I do not want to do Wikihelp editable, as all the pages except the Main_Page are still just generated from the LibreOffice Help, and it might lead to confusion. Thank you a lot, Kendy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Jan, I will send the translation. But I strongly oppose that anyone will be able to edit help pages via wiki, this was you idea years ago and most translation communities oppose it and please stop writing that! Thanks, m. 2013/1/15 Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz: Hi, I got a report that https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page is not translated - which is true. In order to be translated to your language (one of CA, CS, DA, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KO, NL, PL, PT, PT-BR, RU, SL, SV, VI, ZH-CN, ZH-TW), I'd like to ask you for the translation of its source, that is of https://help.libreoffice.org/WikiAction/edit/Main_Page If you can do it, please send it to me as a reply to this mail - I do not want to do Wikihelp editable, as all the pages except the Main_Page are still just generated from the LibreOffice Help, and it might lead to confusion. Thank you a lot, Kendy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi, here is the Slovenian (sl) translation and customization of this page:
{{OrigLang|Dobrodošli v Pomoči {{ProductName}}!}}
div id=mf-page title=Dobrodošli
Hvala, ker uporabljate pomoč za paket
[http://sl.libreoffice.org/prenosi/ {{ProductName}}]. Pritisnite F1,
kadar koli potrebujete pomoč ob uporabi programja {{ProductName}}, in
preusmerjeni boste na to stran. Poleg tega lahko namestite tudi
celotno vsebino pomoči v svojem jeziku na svoj računalnik.
Če želite zgolj brskati po pomoči, lahko uporabite naslednje vstopne
točke za enostavnejše krmarjenje:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help/sl|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
(urejanje besedil)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help/sl|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (preglednice)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help/sl|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(predstavitve)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help/sl|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (risanje)
* [[Common/Database_1/sl|{{ProductName}} Base]] (obdelava zbirk podatkov)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help/sl|{{ProductName}} Math]] (urejanje formul)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help/sl|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (programiranje v jeziku Basic)
== Kako lahko sodelujete ==
Trenutno še vedno izpopolnjujemo orodja, ki pretvorijo pomoč programa
v spletno obliko.
Če želite sodelovati pri prevajanju gradiv za LibreOffice iz
angleščine v slovenščino, stopite v stik z
[http://sl.libreoffice.org/slovenjenje-2/ ekipo slovenjenja
LibreOffice]. Veseli bomo vaše pomoči!
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi all, On 15/01/2013 21:00, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: Jan, I will send the translation. But I strongly oppose that anyone will be able to edit help pages via wiki, this was you idea years ago and most translation communities oppose it and please stop writing that! I second your position, for FR we still need it in the product (because of the French law) and I wouldn't like to have online and offline help files to be different. Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi,
following you have CA (Catalan) translation
Best regards,
Joan Montané
{{OrigLang|Us donem la benviguda a l'ajuda del {{ProductName}}!}}
div id=mf-page title=Ús donem la benvinguda
Gràcies per usar l'aplicació d'ajuda del [
http://ca.documentfoundation.org/baixada/ {{ProductName}}]. Premeu F1 a
qualsevol punt on necessiteu ajuda en l'ús del {{ProductName}}, i sereu
redirigit a aquest lloc. Alternativament, podeu instal·lar una versió fora
de línia de l'ajuda en la vostra llengua.
Si només voleu explorar l'ajuda, useu els punts d'entrada següents per a
una navegació més fàcil:
* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help/ca|{{ProductName}} Writer]]
(documents de text)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help/ca|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (fulls de
càlcul)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help/ca|{{ProductName}} Impress]]
(presentacions)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help/ca|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (dibuixos)
* [[Common/Database_1/ca|{{ProductName}} Base]] (bases de dades)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help/ca|{{ProductName}} Math]] (edició de
fórmules)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help/ca|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (programació usant el
llenguatge Basic)
== Com participar-hi ==
Actualment, encara estem ajustant les eines de conversió de l'ajuda en
format fora de línia al format en línia. Posteriorment, podreu participar i
millorar les pàgines d'ajuda. La planificació es descriu a [
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp wiki de The
Document Foundation] (en anglès).
Consulteu la [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents/ca Guia
d'usuari] per a informació sobre l'ús del programari wiki.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi Martin, Martin Srebotnjak píše v Út 15. 01. 2013 v 21:00 +0100: Jan, I will send the translation. Thank you! :-) But I strongly oppose that anyone will be able to edit help pages via wiki, this was you idea years ago and most translation communities oppose it and please stop writing that! The deal that anything that would make the wikihelp editable will affect translators in no negative way is still in place of course - don't worry. Even if we manage to do the Wikihelp editable one day, it will be only the English source, and the rest will go through Pootle, with everything converted etc. Please consider the documentation writers too - the current way of writing Help is unbearable for everybody who attempts that. Either way, the only (very slowly) ongoing work now is to split the Extended Tooltips (the ahelp pieces in the Help) from the Help itself for performance reasons [but it would help the above too], so nothing to really panic about. I hope this clears your concerns. All the best, Kendy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi, Jan, no, your writing does not console me, I am afraid of solo actions of documentation writers that might make changes that are not in favor of the product (although some writer is personally enthusiastic about them, just like you are about making English help editable in wiki). If you imagine - copy pasting or moving some page here and there in the wiki structure or changing wording here and there is an easy job in the wiki, but for translators this could mean many empty strings in Pootle of something that has been already almost fully translated. We will be working like mad because of such small changes. Translated help will never be 100% localized. LibreOffice will not be up to the norms for adoption of software in government and civic institutions. So I think it is great that it is currently hard to change help - a technical writer must really be precise in the change she wants - and this leads also to a very localized change also for localizers. Also, help system is not so bad that it would need a total revamp. And being translated in so many languages it would generate 100x the work of a single writer's change. So I will remain upset even though I do not want to. Changing the concept of help is not just a question of help writers/editors and Kendy, who developed the po-wiki translation system, but it is a joint question to be discussed and decided with the l10n community. But it seems you do not want to talk about it with the l10n people. Shouldn't such a change be discussed in the boards of TDF as it affects so many language teams? Lp, m. 2013/1/15 Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz: nk you! :-) But I strongly oppose that anyone will be able to edit help pages via wiki, this was you idea years ago and most translation communities oppose it and please stop writing that! The deal that anything that would make the wikihelp editable will affect translators in no negative way is still in place of course - don't worry. Even if we manage to do the Wikihelp editable one day, it will be only the English source, and the rest will go through Pootle, with everything converted etc. Please consider the documentation writers too - the current way of writing Help is unbearable for everybody who attempts that. Either way, the only (very slowly) ongoing work now is to split the Extended Tooltips (the ahelp pieces in the Help) from the Help itself for performance reasons [but it would help the above too], so nothing to really panic about. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.netwrote: If you imagine - copy pasting or moving some page here and there in the wiki structure or changing wording here and there is an easy job in the wiki, but for translators this could mean many empty strings in Pootle of something that has been already almost fully translated. That's just pootle/translate being lame. Any sane translation tool is able to cope with the simple changes like moved sentences and simple one or two word edits. And the better ones use things like tokenizers (lucene) and sentence level segmentation to get things right even on bigger changes. But I agree that until someone puts some effort into pootle in this regard, it's better not to attempt it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page
Hi Martin, I am not sure what has upset you that much - are you going to FOSDEM by chance? Would be great to talk face to face. Please read more inline: Martin Srebotnjak píše v Út 15. 01. 2013 v 22:55 +0100: no, your writing does not console me, I am afraid of solo actions of documentation writers that might make changes that are not in favor of the product (although some writer is personally enthusiastic about them, just like you are about making English help editable in wiki). If you imagine - copy pasting or moving some page here and there in the wiki structure or changing wording here and there is an easy job in the wiki, but for translators this could mean many empty strings in Pootle of something that has been already almost fully translated. We will be working like mad because of such small changes. Translated help will never be 100% localized. LibreOffice will not be up to the norms for adoption of software in government and civic institutions. In case we change the help to wiki as the source [NOTE: if at all; at some stage; nobody is working on this if I'm not mistaken], there is of course a trivial solution for this - work closely with the documentation/help authors; forget about 'we' and 'they' and the 1st time somebody does something bad just work with him/her to revert/fix that. Of course, some additional technical solutions, like detection of moves, fuzzy translations, re-generating translations nightly to check for changes that are too aggressive revert in the wiki, etc. etc. might help too - there is no need to fear of changes in advance. And - even as a wiki, the help can have a release cycle as the current help has, aligned with the product release, in order to be able to achieve 100% translation. So I think it is great that it is currently hard to change help - a technical writer must really be precise in the change she wants - and this leads also to a very localized change also for localizers. Also, help system is not so bad that it would need a total revamp. And being translated in so many languages it would generate 100x the work of a single writer's change. No, there is nothing great about being hard to change help. Our help sucks in the current form, and I am talking content - there is so many useless pages there that we have to translate to our languages (yes, I am translating too). And of course, if anybody wanted, it is much easier to create nightmares with the current help source than it would potentially be with wiki as the source. So I will remain upset even though I do not want to. I don't understand why. Changing the concept of help is not just a question of help writers/editors and Kendy, who developed the po-wiki translation system, but it is a joint question to be discussed and decided with the l10n community. Sure, completely agree with this. I just have to add that blocking changes without understanding is as unacceptable as changing something without discussions. But it seems you do not want to talk about it with the l10n people. I do not understand why do you have this feeling; of course I do want to talk to you - but it is hard when you start shouting whenever I only mention wikihelp ;-) BTW, with 2423 translations, I hope could be considered a l10n guy myself these days, couldn't I? Shouldn't such a change be discussed in the boards of TDF as it affects so many language teams? Technical Steering Committee is more proper I guess; but before that I think it will be best if we two understand each other as the first thing. Regards, Kendy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
