Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-23 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Martina, there aren't pins except at the edges. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-23 Thread Ilske Thomsen
I find these grounds take an awful lot of concentration to make - how true Sue. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-23 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Martina, we would I will show a photo eventually when it is finished. like that you do so. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-23 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Tamara, a sponge is a Schwamm in German Schlamm is in English as Sue mentioned mould and what Jo mentioned for mushroom reminds me also on something like this. Bevv found perhaps the nearest explanation: sham imitatio, conterfeit, pretence But than I am wondering why U. V. used an

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-23 Thread bevw
Hello Ilske and everyone On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Ilske Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know but it si interesting to look at words from every side Yes! a sponge is a Schwamm in German Schlamm is in English as Sue mentioned mould if 'sponge' -like in appearance,

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-23 Thread clayblackwell
Unless a lace takes concentration, I get quickly bored with it!! I really appreciate the laces which make me completely focus... I get involved and after an hour or two (which pass VERY quickly), I feel like I've been in a trance and have been physically rejuvenated!! (well... except for

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hello Tamara, no there is no real Is there a worker and you sit and say always half stich - double half stich - half stich- double half stich and so on and if you stop write down what comes next. But after a while it works well and it looks lovely. And is there a diagram? If you

RE: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread J. Falkink
The ground is also in Viele Gute Gruende III, almost in the back: D4.1 she calls it Schammgrund. It looks quite regular. Some other eamples http://www.lokk.nl/kbarchief/kb12007/kb1a02%20met%20kleur.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/GrannyLaurin/omenominkoperkleur.jpg Jo - To unsubscribe

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread Ilske Thomsen
It is regular and that's logical. In other wild grounds if you make tc tctc tct tc tct or something like this it is very wild. In my opinion often too wild. calls it Schammgrund What does Schamm- or is it Schwamm- mean. It's not a German word Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread Sue Babbs
I find these grounds take an awful lot of concentration to make - and I liked Martina's idea of making a note if you got interrupted!! I usually end up undoing the row! Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread martina . dewille
Hi, today it is a holiday in Bavaria. So I had a go with the wild ground. I tried the regular one I described in an earlier mail, but I am using only every 2nd pin, to make it more loose and to get a good contrast to the mane, which is done in half stitches only. Thank you for all your

RE: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread J. Falkink
calls it Schammgrund What does Schwamm- mean. Schwamm is close to a dutch word for muschroom, or perheaps what grows on fruit and vegetables when you keep it too long. I'm too lazy to get a dictionary. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread Sue Babbs
Mould? - Original Message - From: J. Falkink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ilske Thomsen' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Lace Arachne' lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Wilder ground calls it Schammgrund What does Schwamm- mean. Schwamm is close to a dutch

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On May 22, 2008, at 12:57, J. Falkink wrote: The ground is also in Viele Gute Gruende III, almost in the back: D4.1 Many thanks, Jo; *now* all is clear as a bell. she calls it Schammgrund. Schwammgrund. My dictionary has several translations for the word Schwamm, but the first one is

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-22 Thread Steph Peters
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:26:30 -0400, Tamara wrote: Like Alice, I don't think I've ever come accross it but, also like Alice, I'm intrigued by it. But I cannot, quite visualise it... Is it a kind of lattice, with alternating short (CT) and long (CTCT) planks, which are then reversed in the next

[lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-21 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On May 21, 2008, at 5:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wilder Grund (wilde ground: CT-CTCT-CT-CTCT and the next row CTCT-CT- etc.) Like Alice, I don't think I've ever come accross it but, also like Alice, I'm intrigued by it. But I cannot, quite visualise it... Is it a kind of lattice, with

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-21 Thread martina . dewille
Thank you for all your encouragement on experimenting. I try to send a link to a German site, where you can see, what it looks like. http://www.creativ-kloeppeln-lehrte.de/Kloppeln_fur_Kids/kloppeln_fur_kids.html Look at the little ghost Buh. It has a worker running from edge to edge. The 2

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-21 Thread bevw
I have worked this ground - it was on the wings of a moth pattern in Ulrike Löhr's small book Schmetterlinge. Yes, as Martina points out, it gives the impression of irregularity, but it is regular to work, which is fun! For interesting effects, try it in colours, with thick and thin threads (try

Re: [lace] Wilder ground

2008-05-21 Thread Kloeppelkiste
Gisela Wirtz' book on Tape lace: Klöppeln am laufenden Band (Barbara Fay Verlag) shows many different ways how to turm simle tapes into wild ones and gives many interesting ideas what to do with those tapes. Greeetings, Gabriele, Chemnitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thank you for all your