[lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread Sue

Hi Janice,
I do remember some of this but on this occasion chose to use normal pricking 
card, but have since been reminded that ordinary card without the blue 
sticky would work well.   It was my first try at using the roller pillow and 
I have a snug fit over the top of the roller as well as a piece of camping 
foam and then cotton fabric tight around it.  It is working pretty well, I 
am getting on well.
Having achieved that I will go for the lighter card next time and the 
slightly larger roll of card to prevent the pins using the same hole for 
yards of lace:-)  thank you for reminding me of that.
There is a little pocket on the back side of the travel pillow bag, but it 
is facing the side so not good for the lace inside.   At the moment I have 
the lace laying straight over the bag, but have pinned a cotton hanky either 
side of it, so I just pull it through.   I have now worked enough lace so I 
am going to have to roll it, or fold and pin:-)
I am currently adding in new bobbins as I work when they run low (as I am 
using the gutterman silk thread from a previous project while learning the 
use the pillow).  I expected to find it harder to get the hang of than I 
have.  I will have a play with things to find out the best way to secure the 
lace to keep it clean and safe while I continue to work.  Once I have used 
up this thread I am planning on designing and making a wider  and longer 
strip of lace for a tablecloth edge which will definately be a longer work 
in progress and the longest piece of lace ever made by myself in all the 10 
years of lacemaking.
Thank you to you and all the other kind people for their advice and 
suggestions.

Sue T


Hi Sue,
There was a discussion on Arachne in the past where it was suggested that 
if you
intend to do yardage on a roller pillow, that you do not make the pricking 
fit

a half inch left over to pin to the back of the

pillow, and sewn together.
Janice

 There wasn't room to wrap wool blanket around it, so in the end
I have a thin layer of foam with a couple of layers of cotton fabric 
pulled

tight around it and the pattern fits beautifully around that.
I am using up the spare left over silk threads left on the bobbins from my
finished garter.
Sue T
Dorset UK
Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org


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[lace] Hephaestus Books - SCAM ALERT

2011-12-07 Thread Linda Walton
A friend on another list passed on a warning about these books.  She was 
given one as a birthday present, and discovered that the books are 
worthless and a scam.


Apparently Hephaestus is not so much listed as the publisher as the 
author - and of many, many thousands of books.  These books are printed 
versions of material 'scraped' from free websites such as Wikipedia. 
Those which seem to be fiction books by famous authors are actually 
commentaries.  Some authors have already spotted this and are trying to 
campaign against it, so that their readers are not misled into buying 
them.  [More information here:

http://culturewarreporters.com/tag/hephaestus-books/ ]

But there are also many non-fiction titles on offer.  I have checked by 
googling for 'Hephaestus books' and 'lace' and found some immediately on 
Amazon.  There is not enough information to decide what the contents 
are, but the confused titles imply that no real human being would put 
these subjects together into one book, for example this book for £8.74p:


Lace, Including: Tatting, Bobbin Lace, Needle Lace, Crocheted Lace, 
Broomstick Lace, Cambric, Doily, Chantilly Lace, Armenian Needlelace, 
Filet Lace, Tonder Lace, Punto In Aria, Point De Venise, Point De 
France, Alencon Lace, Argentan Lace, Hollie Point


(sorry, I can't do the authentic 'o' in Tonder, nor 'c' in Alencon).

Here is the 'Product Description':

Hephaestus Books represents a new publishing paradigm, allowing 
disparate content sources to be curated into cohesive, relevant, and 
informative books. To date, this content has been curated from Wikipedia 
articles and images under Creative Commons licensing, although as 
Hephaestus Books continues to increase in scope and dimension, more 
licensed and public domain content is being added. We believe books such 
as this represent a new and exciting lexicon in the sharing of human 
knowledge. This particular book is a collaboration focused on 
Lace.br/br/More info: Lace is an openwork fabric, patterned with 
open holes in the work, made by machine or by hand. The holes can be 
formed via removal of threads or cloth from a previously woven fabric, 
but more often open spaces are created as part of the lace fabric. 
Lace-making is an ancient craft. True lace was not made until the late 
15th and early 16th centuries. A true lace is created when a thread is 
looped, twisted or braided to other threads independently from a backing 
fabric.


Let the buyer beware!  And also authors.

Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).

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RE: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread malvaryj
Sue wrote: Once I have used up this thread I am planning on designing and
making a wider and longer
strip of lace for a tablecloth edge

As someone with a couple of travel pillows might I suggest that you try a
wider piece with more bobbins before you commit to making a long length.
There is nothing more frustrating than finding that you don't have enoiugh
room for your bobbins in the small space.  I  know that about 22 pairs is the
maximum comfortablle on one pillow and the other fold-up to a carrying one it
would be less.

When you have designed your lace you might want to try a sample to see how it
works before committing to a table-cloth length.

Malvary on holiday near Bodden Town, Grand Cayman where it is 84f today and no
snow.

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Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread Sue Babbs

I agree with Malvary about the width.

I only came to like roller pillows when I was given a Swedish one, which is 
more substantial than a foam one, and has a much wider apron, so gives me 
plenty of space for wider strips.




Sue

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Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread Laceandbits
The other thing to consider when working on a roller is the length of the  
pattern repeat.  Because of the curve of the roller, the optimum sweet spot  
to work on is usually only about 2 inches maximum.  If you are doing a  
wider edging with a longer repeat you will find you have to keep dodging about  
catching up one bit to the next rather than being able to work as far as  
possible on a diagonal line (a bit like doing a garter where you have to keep 
 both sides going at the same time, to do the ribbon slot join in the  
centre).
 
Another reason to sample working it on a roller before starting.
 
Also, Sue, if you are thinking of using the same travel pillow where  you 
have been asking how to store and protect a small piece of straight lace,  
where are you going to put the bulk of a table cloth edge?
 
Finally, you may have said but is this to be lace for a round/oval cloth,  
or are you gathering the lace at the corners?  If you are working corners  
you'd be better on a block pillow the whole time.
 
Jacquie in Lincolnshire.  
Our gas was to be cut off today so DH got up early and put both the central 
 heating and the gas fire on full to warm the house.  Half way through the  
morning a note arrived to say Wednesday is cancelled (really!) and the gas 
is  turned off tomorrow instead.  Snow in Drumnadrochit, North of Scotland - 
 first 2011 photos of granddaughter in the snow have just arrived.   Hope 
it doen't get this far south yet.

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[lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread Janice Blair
Just remember if you are going to do a wider piece of lace, check that your 
roller pillow has room for all the bobbins.  It can be a little uncomfortable 
if 
they are getting in your way.  If using blue cardstock, you will still need to 
cover the ink on the pricking with something unless it is a permanent ink.  I 
don't worry about yardage lace getting dirty, it is probably going to be 
attached to something washable anyway.  I am a firm believer in chucking the 
finished item with lace into the washer and dryer.
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org





From: Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com


Hi Janice,
I do remember some of this but on this occasion chose to use normal pricking 
card, but have since been reminded that ordinary card without the blue sticky 
would work well.   It was my first try at using the roller pillow and I have a 
snug fit over the top of the roller as well as a piece of camping foam and then 
cotton fabric tight around it.  It is working pretty well, I am getting on well.
Having achieved that I will go for the lighter card next time and the slightly 
larger roll of card to prevent the pins using the same hole for yards of 
lace:-)  thank you for reminding me of that.
There is a little pocket on the back side of the travel pillow bag, but it is 
facing the side so not good for the lace inside.   At the moment I have the 
lace 
laying straight over the bag, but have pinned a cotton hanky either side of it, 
so I just pull it through.   I have now worked enough lace so I am going to 
have 
to roll it, or fold and pin:-)
I am currently adding in new bobbins as I work when they run low (as I am using 
the gutterman silk thread from a previous project while learning the use the 
pillow).  I expected to find it harder to get the hang of than I have.  I will 
have a play with things to find out the best way to secure the lace to keep it 
clean and safe while I continue to work.  Once I have used up this thread I am 
planning on designing and making a wider  and longer strip of lace for a 
tablecloth edge which will definately be a longer work in progress and the 
longest piece of lace ever made by myself in all the 10 years of lacemaking.
Thank you to you and all the other kind people for their advice and suggestions.
Sue T

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Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread bev walker
Corners are possible on rollers :)
Lately I've been doing squared edgings on my roller pillows - I took
Sally Schoenberg's advice for moving the lace at a corner when working
on a D-shaped pillow. Works a treat on the roller.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:55 AM,  laceandb...@aol.com wrote:

 or are you gathering the lace at the corners?  If you are working corners
 you'd be better on a block pillow the whole time.


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada.

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Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread Sue Babbs
I too work corner's on my wide Swedish roller. I work on a bit of fun-foam 
sheet as I approach the corner, and the pins mainly go in this. Then I 
bundle the bobbins carefully in cover cloths, take off the weight from the 
threads, and turn the pricking and lace.  Yes, I used to do this on my block 
pillow, but I like the wider apron that the Swedish pillow gives me so much, 
that I have moved over to using that much more.


Sue

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[lace] Charity lace book sale

2011-12-07 Thread Jean Leader
From time to time I'm asked if I can find homes for lace books and send the 
proceeds to designated charities. At the moment I have a box of books which my 
local lace contacts either already have or not interested in. However, it 
could be that there is someone somewhere who is looking for one of them so 
I've put the list on my website at
http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/charity.html
Please contact me if you'd like to know more about any of them or would like 
one and want to know what postage would cost.
Jean in chilly Glasgow where most of Sunday night's snow has now melted 

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[lace] crochet

2011-12-07 Thread Lorelei Halley
I think we all know that crochet often makes imitations of bobbin lace or
other kinds of lace.  On my website I have a few examples of crochet imitating
other forms.  This piece was just recently posted on stitchinfingers is a
remarkable imitation of torchon bobbin lace.  I don't think I've ever seen
anything like this before.
http://stitchinfingers.ning.com/photo/crochet-square?context=latest

My page:  http://lynxlace.com/compare.html
Lorelei

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Subject: [lace] Roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread Janice Blair
It looks like a fairly small roller to me, so definitely try a small sample of 
lots of bobbins first.  Looks like a nice pattern to work for demo'ing.

BTW, where did you get the little glass angel that you put the lace skirt on?  
I 
have not seen those before.  I wonder if anyone carries them in the US.
Janice

 Subject: [lace] Roller pillow and lace
MY DH has taken a photo of the roller pillow (just as I was putting it to bed
the other evening, so I have uploaded it onto the webshots site in the
hurwitzend album.  He was the other side of the pillow, so has the  finished
lace, and the roller.  the bobbins are pinned up inside the cover cloth the
other side of it.

Sue T
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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RE: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread malvaryj
Lyn wrote: As I understand it, block pillows are a recent invention.

It deppends what you mean by recent.  Some of the Ottawa Lace Group recently
had the opportunity to visit a local lace collector to see some of her
beautiful lace.  She showed us a block pillow which I think was dated about
1880.  It was French, but whether French from France or from Quebec or other
part of Canada it wasn't clear.

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[lace] Card exchange and free pattern

2011-12-07 Thread Janice Blair
I mailed my cards just after Thanksgiving and have already received one back 
from Trenna Ruffner.  A very nice point ground motif.  The card is on my 
mantlepiece at the moment.  My card is a simple pattern which I designed to 
make 
a star for next years IOLI convention in St.Paul, Minnesota.  You can find the 
pattern in my Pattern Gallery on www.jblace.com
I was just asked for permission to use one of my old Christmas tree patterns 
for 
a booklet and it reminded me that I meant to post the link on Arachne.  

This year we did not get our partners email addresses so we will have to post 
our acknowledgments here. Thanks Trenna.
Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA but sitting in a 9th 
floor room at the famous Drake Hotel in Chicago, overlooking the beach and lake 
and watching the lights of the rush hour traffic.  Did about an hour of BL this 
afternoon but in the privacy of our room.  During the Christmas season there is 
no place to sit in public because of the huge tree and decorations and the fact 
that the lounge is taken over for expensive afternoon tea.

www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] Travel Pillow

2011-12-07 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Sue, I have had a look at the photo of your travel pillow.
The first thing I noticed is that the little pouch on the back flap seems to
me to be set at the wrong angle - facing the wrong way.  On my travel pillow
the pouch opens towards the roller, so the lace comes off the roller and
feeds into the pouch where it is kept safe.

I tried using a rolling pin to secure the lace as it was made, but found
that it sat in the hinge of the back flap, and was in the way/annoying, so I
went back to just stuffing the lace into the pouch.   It will press flat if
ever I get enough done to use on something!!! I can pull it out easily, if I
am at a demonstration to show people, and push it back into the pouch to
keep it clean at other times.

My pillow bows in the centre a bit, as I have used up to 28 pairs on it, and
they were really too many!  I have a (new!) folded Chux wipe (throw-away
cleaning cloth) under the dressing cloth to try to level out the dip when I
am working!! 

Regards from Liz in hot, sunny, Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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[lace] roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread Lorelei Halley
Lyn
The issue of turning corners only arose in the mid to late 19th century.
Turned corners did not exist earlier.  Instead only flat edgings or insertions
were made, and these were folded or gathered to make hankie edgings or
collars.  If you look at the portrait paintings in Levey, for instance, the
painters often represented these folds and gathers quite realistically.

So your question would have to be revised to: what kind of pillows were they
using in the last half of the 19th century?  My understanding of Bedfordshire
lace is that it was made on a very large, almost spherical pillow as much as
18 - 20 inches in diameter.  It is possible Bucks was also made on the same
type of pillow (although I don't know this for certain).  And I have seen mid
to late 19 th century Bucks prickings which have corners.  I don't think I
have ever seen a LePuy guipure with a turned corner, except for the modern
ones published just recently (where the author has devised turned corners
which didn't exist in her exemplars).

I have seen many Maltese silk pieces with turned corners, but these also would
be mid 19th century or just a little earlier, and I have no idea what shape of
pillow was used on Malta.
Lorelei Halley

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Fwd: Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace

2011-12-07 Thread Clay Blackwell
I meant to send this to the entire list as well...

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA. USA


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [lace] Re:  roller pillow and lace
From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net
To: lynrbai...@desupernet.net
CC: 

Hi Lyn...  

I'm not an authority on pillows, by any means, but I think that block pillows 
have probably been around for a very long time.   According to Kloppel, 
Kissen, Stander, the lovely book published by the German Lace Guild in 2002 
(now OOP),  the Swiss in the Neuenburg region used a lovely pillow with sloping 
sides on the left and right, and blocks that fit vertically in between.  It had 
a wedge-shape bottom that raised the back of the pillow, and the sides  and 
back of this wedge were often fitted with drawers...  to hold spare bobbins and 
perhaps the roll of finished lace.  

Unfortunately, the book does not give a date for this pillow, but it is very 
old.  The Belgians had a similar pillow, but it did not have the moveable 
blocks.  I do wish they had given some dates...  our best information for the 
*very* old pillows (18th c. and earlier) must be through paintings of the 
period in question.

Still, the roller pillows in this book seem to have been more widely used in 
all other parts of Europe for a very long time.

Clay


Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA. USA

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