Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread Jean Leader
Jane Partridge wrote: Check the way the pairs go in and out of the trails to do the plaits and tallies - Beds trails carry passive pairs that go in and out of the trail, keeping the trail workers to work back and forth, but Cluny swaps the trail workers into the plaits. It's not as

Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Jean: Thanks for this. Interesting to finally have some hard data in the lacemaking world! I remember as a very new lacemaker, being haughtily told that a piece of Honiton I had made was actually something else (Whithof? Brussels?) because of the way I had done a join. I had taken the

Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread The Lacebee
Funny how a thoughtless word can hurt and influence us so much when we are starting out. I saw a pattern in a book and went to my lace teacher with it. I said that it would be perfect as a present for my mother as a piece for her dolls house. It was pattern 106b from Pamela Nottingham's

Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread Lin Hudren
Liz, you said it best. I was fortunate and had two of the best instructors and the bestest mentor when i started out. my mentor taught herself Milanese for me to learn from her. what better foundation could anyone get? i will never forget either person and have remained in contact even after

[lace] Lace teachers was Old Beds

2013-10-20 Thread Lyn Bailey
I didn't take a class until I'd been making lace, on and off, for 24 years. My second class was Honiton, a weekend. That was almost 10 years ago. I still remember the teacher looking at my work and saying, somewhat musingly, You make nice lace. Those sorts of nice comments can make all the

Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread Liz and Ken Roberts
Double amen to that! Those teachers who discourage also take joy from the craft when they criticize this way! Liz in cool and windy Missouri USA where the leaves are beginning to change color. Unfortunately, I have way too many green tomatoes and it is supposed to freeze Monday night.

Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread Anna Binnie
Many of our older more set in their way teachers, say you have to learn things in a set order. It is often the way they learnt or were taught. Has anyone thought that this may be why young people are not taking up lace? Our young people want to fly before they learn to walk but often they do

Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread Clay Blackwell
I also started out with a person who enjoyed calling herself a teacher, but who was actually a terrible teacher. She hated that I wanted to move on beyond her boring exercises into real lace. So I just armed myself with recommended (by Arachne) books and worked on my own with occasional trips

Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread The Lacebee
Dennis Hornsby once said to me that if I had been born in Buckinghamshire and learnt lace during its heyday, I would have learnt bucks point and nothing else. So why did i think I had to learn in an order? I can see a progression from nice lace to another in the same way we can see how one

Re: [lace] Old beds

2013-10-20 Thread Liz and Ken Roberts
Our lace group is small (about 20 members) but we currently have a couple of really kind and generous members who are willing to baby sit those of us with less confidence and knowledge. They lead without pushing and not only tell us how to do it, but also show us how to determine where to go on

[lace] Old Beds

2013-10-20 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I made 3 Beds hankies from Springett patterns, - but I used a fine silk thread not cotton, - and a couple of teachers went Yuk when they saw them - as they were soft and 'floppy not stiff and crisp, laying over the hand. Which is what Beds lace is supposed to do - according to them. I was

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2013-10-20 Thread Jack and Mariann
I heard today that the IOLI Bulletin was mailed a couple of weeks late. As far as teaching..I went to a demonstration and the woman doing bobbin lace told me you can't learn on your own. I have been slowly working through some of the books and I think I am doing pretty good. I run into

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2013-10-20 Thread Cindy Rusak
Hi All, When I started making lace I already had a pretty good idea of the direction I wanted to take, namely Beds and Maltese. I took a week long course and one of the first things we did was a Russian flower that was big enough to take us at least 2 days to finish - we certainly knew how to

[lace] RE: Learning on your own

2013-10-20 Thread mary carey
Hi All, The Australian Lace Guild runs Correspondence Courses in Bobbin Lace (my introduction to lace 30 years ago), Needle Lace and others - it certainly can be done. I did not find it a problem then, but have been happy to take advantage of the opportunities that have presented, mostly in

[lace] old beds

2013-10-20 Thread Janice Blair
Jean,  Thanks for posting about your study on beds lace.  I am presently working on a design taken from a Thomas Lester lappet that has been adapted by Holly Van Sciver and enjoying every minute of it.  I started at convention this summer and as the pattern had not been worked before I did not

Re: [lace] Old Beds

2013-10-20 Thread The Lacebee
I went to a demonstration and the lady giving the talk said you can't learn lacemaking from a book, you need a teacher I had 6 lessons and made two things. A strip of white cloth stitch 3mm wide and 30cm long and a strip of half stitch the same length. It was a though she didn't want us to