Re: [lace] Tour All Hollows Museum in Honiton

2017-04-02 Thread Jean Nathan
You can tour the museum and go into all of the rooms. It's just like Street
View. Put your mouse pointer where you want to be in the room, or through a
doorway and click. Use the compass in the right bottom corner. You can go into
all of the rooms, including those down the stairs. You can even go up into the
gallery.


Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK


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Sent: 02 April 2017 07:33:59
To: Helene Ulrich; Arachne
Subject: RE: [lace] Tour All Hollows Museum in Honiton

Hi Fellow Arachnids,

Sorry, but this only a tour of the shop attached to the Honiton Museum. There
is quite a bit more to it and well worth a visit. And the shop does carry a
lot of things other souvenir shops don?t. (it used to carry lace making tools
and books as well as patterns. Bliss!). The Lace galleries start at the back
left corner of the shop and are delightful.

Joepie in -at present- sunny Sussex.


From: Helene Ulrich<mailto:helene3...@gmail.com>
Subject: [lace] Tour All Hollows Museum in Honiton

Just made a very interesting discovery. Was watching the TV show "The
Coroner" on PBS. The show takes place around Bournemouth. Decided to
play on Google Maps to see how far it was from Honiton. Surprise, you
can take a tour of the inside "All Hollows Museum" on Google Maps.
Brought back great memories of my trip there many years ago.

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.8001629,-3.1883323,3a,75y,97h,90t/data=!3m8!1
e1!3m6!1swALMjcSrZl0AAAQzTy8zYg!2e0!3e2!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid
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[lace] Books/secondhand books

2017-03-20 Thread Jean Nathan
As Clare says, the Lace Guild has boxes and boxes of secondhand books donated
by those clearing out after the death of a loved one. We also see them in lace
groups. Most of us have already got the books we want, as well as ones we just
desire.


I've recently decided to save my relatives the task of disposing of my stuff
when the time comes, so I'm in the process of sorting out all of my craft
stuff and if it hasn't been used in the last two years, its time for it to go.
At least I might be able to get at things instead of having to dive into piles
to find what I want. It will also give my cat one less place to go mountain
climbing and and caving!


Because there's such a glut of lace books with the number of new lacemakers
dwindling, I give those I've grown out of to charity shops in the hope that
someone who hasn't thought of trying it will come across one and decide to
give it a go. Maybe they'll get hooked. If just one person starts to make lace
because of a book they found in a charity shop, that's one more person to keep
it alive.


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Re: [lace] 150-year old wedding dress

2017-02-13 Thread Jean Nathan
The sequestrators are only supposed to take assets of the company that went
bankrupt, i.e. the items that belonged to the company. Any items in the shop
that were there to be dry cleaned weren't assets of the company as they
belonged to the people who had taken them there to be dry cleaned.


But I suppose they would have taken everything and then decided which items
belonged to the business and which didn't. Leaving the wedding dress behind
must mean that someone thought it was rubbish. Wonder if they'd have done the
same if it was a Ming vase. Wonder how many items of value (not only monetary
value) have been lost permanently in circumstances like this.


The owner is obviously being very wise now in intending to take it to a
cleaner who specialises in lace items.


Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

Subject: Re: [lace] 150-year old wedding dress

The thing about this story is that the dress was made by a few times gt
grandmother for her wedding.  It's been worn by many brides since then and was
given to the bride by her grandmother for the big day.  The dry cleaners had a
'By Royal Appointment', and so were deemed to be a good dry cleaners.  However
they went bankrupt and all 'assets' were seized... including all the clothing
in the place!  When they found out they tried to get the dress back only to be
told it couldn't be found! Other brides were/are in similar situations.  This
is why they appealed to social media.

Let's hope they are reunited with the dress soon.  It was taken away by the
sequestrators, and it's hoped it will be reunited with its owners permanently
next week.

Sue in East Yorkshire where it's hardly stopped raining for 4 days!!

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[lace] Lace Guild Web site

2017-01-11 Thread Jean Nathan
Thanks to David and Jean for all the work they put in to the Lace Guild web
site over the years. It was very easy to navigate and thanks especially for
the Advent Calendar competition each year, which obviously took a lot of
effort to compile.


Hope that whoever takes over manages to match the quality of what David and
Jean produced.


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[lace] Missing emails

2016-12-10 Thread Jean Nathan
I haven't received any of Jeri's emails for several years in spite of having
her in my contacts and putting her in my approved list. They don't even go
into my junk/spam folder


Like several other ISPs, AOL is filtered out by mine so I don't receive any
mail from AOL addresses and there's nothing they will do about it. Just have
to check the archives for Jeri's posts.


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Re: [lace-chat] IT help

2016-08-04 Thread Jean Nathan
Found this quick summary on how to do it


  1.  Navigate to Settings. You can get there from the Start menu.
  2.  2.Select System.
  3.  Click Default apps in the left pane.
  4.  Click Microsoft Edge under the "Web browser" heading. ...
  5.  Select the new browser (ex: Chrome) in the menu that pops up.


Or for more detailed step-by-step:

<http://www.omgchrome.com/how-to-set-google-chrome-as-default-browser-in-wind
ows-10/>
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x200.jpg]<http://www.omgchrome.com/how-to-set-google-chrome-as-default-browse
r-in-windows-10/>

How to Quickly Make Chrome Default Browser in Windows
10<http://www.omgchrome.com/how-to-set-google-chrome-as-default-browser-in-wi
ndows-10/>
www.omgchrome.com
If you want to make Google Chrome default browser in Windows 10 you can.
Follow this step-by-step guide on how to change default app settings in the
new OS.



I'm sticking with 8.1 - a coupe of friends have had disasters with 10 and 8.1
works fine for me and I know that even my old programs will work with it.


Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK


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Sent: 03 August 2016 15:48
To: lace-c...@dont.panix.com
Subject: [lace-chat] IT help

Dear friends,
I know the answer to my question is a simple one but I'm just not
being simple-minded today.

It seems that Windows 10 (which installed itself a few months ago)
has done an update and made Explorer my preferred browser. Could SKS
please tell me how to change it back to Google Chrome?
Many thanks
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RE: [lace] Lace Article in New Mexico

2016-03-14 Thread Jean Nathan
I didn't get the original message either and it isn't in the archive, I don't
receive any mail from AOL addresses, but was unawate that Yahoo was a problem.
The only way I can see those from Jeri is to go to the archive even though I
put her on my allowed list.

I'm having some work done and the workman has an AOL address. I told him I
didn't receive messages from that provider, and he said others hadn't received
emails from him either and he wondered why. The solution in that case is to
email him and he then replies to it.

I wonder if there's a double problem here and the original sender not only
used a Yahoo address to send from, but also send t to the dontpanix address
instead of arachne, because they don't appear in the archive.

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[lace] Scanned lace books

2016-02-10 Thread Jean Nathan
They are not restricted to lace groups.

The sites that have scanned books, not only lace but just bout any subject you
care to name, are world-wide libraries where you can research a subject and
read books, magazines and articles you may not have heard of or have access
to, which has to be a good thing.

They are mainly based in the USA. Some are only available to professionals in
their field. Some only allow you to read, others allow you to download. Some
require a subscription/fee for some facilities, some do not. Individuals
collect their particular field of interest into their own collection.

They allow you to upload to share; sometimes you have to join to do so.
Unfortunately it's not only the copyright owners who scan and upload.

Any copyright owner can demand their material be removed if they find it has
been uploaded. I've seen less than a dozen lace books.

They are useful if a book you are thinking about buying is included on one of
these sites and you can look before you buy, and also for a book which is
unobtainable/out of print, but obviously there are some who will abuse it.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Sari silk

2016-02-01 Thread Jean Nathan
As well as fabric dye, I once read that you can convert washable ink into
permanent ink by adding vinegar. Haven't tried it, but the principle was
explained as the difference in the acidity of the two.

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RE: [lace] Oneida lace--summer 2008

2015-11-27 Thread Jean Nathan
Could it be from this Torchon Bead Bracelet Book:

http://harlequinlace.com/products/torchon-beaded-bracelets-book

Jean Nathan n Poole, Dorset, UK

> From: hottl...@neo.rr.com
> Subject: [lace] Oneida lace--summer 2008
> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:50:37 -0500
> To: lace@arachne.com
>
> Hello All!  Happy Thanksgiving!  I am writing with the hope that someone can
help identify the source of a beaded lace bracelet.  Our guild taught
lacemaking techniques to Girl Scouts using a similar bracelet in October.
After our positive experience with the Scouts, we decided to donate our idea
to IOLI.  Before doing so & upon closer inspection of the file, we noticed
part of a name, that might be Debra Jenny, near pictures of sample bracelets.
We do not have the original source material & do not know whether this is a
copyright pattern or who worked the samples.  Our source page seems to have
been consolidated/copied & it was part of a collection of files that was
donated to us.  One our members enhanced the bracelet by creating a button
start, increase/decrease rows & a macrame loop closure.  Other members helped
by working samples & refining these additional features.  While this "new"
bracelet bears little resemblance to the "Oneida lace--summer 2008" item, we
have m!
>  ade numerous inquiries thru IOLI members to preclude any copyright issues.
So far, we have come up empty handed.  If anyone on Arachne can help, we would
be most thankful.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA
>
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[lace] Electronic versions of lace books

2015-09-06 Thread Jean Nathan
You can download samples of some Kindle books to see how they're laid out.
Taken me a bit of time to sort it out, but you need to make sure you've got
the latest of Kindle to read samples - version 1.12.2 or later.

Finally managed to download the sample of Practical Skills and it's similar to
Lace Bee's description of Bobbin Lace Stitches in that one page is spread over
several Kindle pages. Mainly it's one diagram per page, sometimes two per
page. For instance for winding a bobbin, each stage is on a different page. On
my tablet that' one diagram on a separate screen, but on my PC at least there
are two pages side-by-side.

Don't think I'll be bothering.

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[lace-chat] RE: [lace] Contact

2015-08-09 Thread Jean Nathan
David wrote:
 I heard on the Antique Road Show this week that dust is merely face
 powder for old furniture!!

Like it! That's going to be my reason from now on. Previously it was because
Quentin Crisp said that after the third year, dust doesn't get any worse.

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[lace] Mini wire lace discovery

2015-08-08 Thread Jean Nathan
My immediate thought was What's wrong with using a hand drill, which most
people will have probably have in their toolbox? but I can see that this is
smaller and lighter.

The manufacturer seems to have variations on it, and if you really want
something particularly for thin wire or embroidery thread Maplins in the UK
(equivalent to Radioshack in the USA) sell a miniature precision hand drill
which is identical to the Spinster except it has a chuck instead of a hook.
You can easily fix a hook in the chuck. Other countries must have similar
stores.

Apart from being more versatile than the Spinster, it's also a lot cheaper.
Amazon is selling the Spinster for GBP14.95, Maplins is selling the mini drill
for just GBP5.99

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[lace] Torchon and direction

2015-08-06 Thread Jean Nathan
I always thought that the reason for working some laces from the back was for
several reasons including:

Sewings joining end to start is on the wrong side and so is the sewing in of
ends.

The very short ends of threads thrown out and cut off weren't visible from the
right side.

if you need to add a pair in the middle of cloth/linen stitch by 
hanging them
each side of a thread, the loop across that thread was on 
the wrong side and
didn't show on the right side.

If you're going to mount your lace on a backing and send the long threads cut
off when you've finished through to the back of the mounting material, the
threads are already on the back of the piece.

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[lace-chat] A BMW driver who is either having a laugh or stupid!

2015-08-02 Thread Jean Nathan
Either this driver is completely stupid or he's having a laugh. I expect the
latter because I'm sure he would have slammed the phone down at the help desk
reaction if he was being serious.

https://www.facebook.com/disturbreality/videos/1069814916395918/?pnref=story

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[lace] E'Bay seller

2015-07-20 Thread Jean Nathan
Looks like Ebay are true to their word. Just searched for items by this seller
and there are none.

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[lace] E'Bay seller

2015-07-20 Thread Jean Nathan
Correction.

Nothing came up when searching for items by the seller, but there are still a
lot listed when searching by other means. He's calling his items DAPHNE
Collection.

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[lace] Smoke smell in books

2015-06-29 Thread Jean Nathan
I had some success with sealing a book in a ballooned plastic bag with a
fridge odour remover pack for a month.

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RE: [lace] Copies of prickings from dark sources

2015-06-14 Thread Jean Nathan
Tracing and drawing are fine if your hands do what you want them to do. Mine
don't now and it's very frustrating. Threading  needle is difficult enough
even with one of those wire thingies that you put trough the eye and pull the
thread through, but getting a dot or a line (and a straight line) on to paper
or card in the right place is hit and miss and very tiring.

I used to draw markings on pricking card or trace but now I can't, so it's
photocopy or scan and, if it's my own design use Lace XRP with snap-to-grid
switched on.

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RE: [lace] Copying a brown pattern

2015-06-08 Thread Jean Nathan
Personally I only like working on blue prickings. I could eliminate the need
for blue film by printing on blue card, but I like film covering. Can't work
on red either.

Even if I wanted to work on brown, making a brown copy would make any markings
and notes I wanted to make on the copy less clear than if written on white.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

 And why not photocopy in colour, keeping the practical brown background?
 Then you would not need to make all that extra work of eliminating it and
 would not have to use the blue film. Well, I would do that.

 Greetings from Spain, where summer temperatures have come too early!


 Antje González
 www.vueltaycruz.es


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[lace] Copying a brown pattern (2)

2015-06-08 Thread Jean Nathan
My OH has just said he would use the remove colour cast tool in a photo
editing program to change the grey to white. We both use Photo Shop Elements,
but different editions - they all have that tool.

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[lace] Copying a brown pattern

2015-06-08 Thread Jean Nathan
Copying a brown pattern with an empty cartridge is OK if your printer will
allow you to do so. Mine won't. I have four cartridges, one black and three
colour - cyan, magenta and yellow. If just one of them is empty, it won't
print at all. If the black is low I then have the option of printing in black
by a combination of the three colours to save what black ink is left.

What I have done in the past is to scan the pricking in greyscale, increase
the contrast so the black dots are really black and then use a photo editing
program to replace the grey background using the colour replacement tool with
white or use the paint bucket to fill the grey area with white. It depends on
how the grey is made up as to whether the colour replacement tool will work or
not.

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[lace] Scam

2015-05-03 Thread Jean Nathan
I received the (Lace) Don't waste time message from Lun Hudrun and from Janet
Theaker and didn't click the link, but Malware Bytes has found malicious items
which obviously got through AVG so think I'll change my anti-virus program.

Been busy re-setting passwords.

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[lace-chat] For dog lovers

2015-05-03 Thread Jean Nathan
If you think you've trained your dog, think again:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/uqlGn-K42U8?rel=0

I had a Border Collie and it was as thick as a brick - frightened of sheep.


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[lace] Hopful seller on ebay 2

2015-02-05 Thread Jean Nathan
Whoops - forgot the link.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/African-Head-Unique-Bobbin-Lace-One-of-a-Kind-Wall-
Art-original-piece-by-Mia-/291374054516?pt=UK_art_Paintings_GLhash=item43d73
f3c74

or tinied:

http://tinyurl.com/o2cwgbl

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[lace] Tardis

2014-12-06 Thread Jean Nathan
Tardis stands for Time and Relative Dimension in Space. From the outside it
looks like an old fashioned British Police Box - a shelter in which foot
patrol police officer could shelter and from which members of the public could
phone the police directly, long before the advent of the mobile phone. The
Tardis is used by Dr Who (just known as The Doctor), a famous science fiction
programme on TV which started in 1963 and is still going strong today, aimed
just about anyone aged from 5 to 500. The Tardis used for travelling through
time and space, and it's very much bigger on the inside than on the outside.

If you want to refer to somewhere in which you can fit more than you think you
could, we often say it's like the Tardis. Think you'd have trouble finding
anone in the UK who doesn't know who the Doctor is and what the Tardis is.

All the information is on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS

including photos. I find the programme quite scary, but them I'm a wimp.

A lot of the Doctor's adversaries would make good subjects for lace.

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[lace-chat] Cute (mainly) cats compilation video

2014-10-08 Thread Jean Nathan
https://dub131.mail.live.com/?tid=cm0saQCbtO5BGUZAAjfeSbsA2fid=flinbox

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[lace-chat] Try this for cute (mainly) cats

2014-10-08 Thread Jean Nathan
Sorry for previous link didn't realise is was via Outlook. Try this one:

https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=10200387320826253

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[lace-chat] Lion hug

2014-09-18 Thread Jean Nathan
Very touching, but I wouldn't trust it:

http://www.vitality101.com/Fun/lion-kisses-rescuer

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RE: [lace] Salamander group

2014-09-02 Thread Jean Nathan
 Looking at the salamander picture reminded me of this picture.
 http://www.mcescher.com/gallery/switzerland-belgium/development-iii/

 Joke Sinclair


All artists get their inspiration from somewhere.

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[lace] Lace question on a quiz show

2014-08-26 Thread Jean Nathan



On the UK TV show 'Tipping Point' on Sunday evening the question in the
category labelled 'Hobbies' was Which of these were the towns of Honiton and
Nottingham famous for? Three options were given. Of those, the answer wanted
was lace.

I'd hardly call the Honiton and Nottingham lace industries a hobby!

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[lace] Beginner-intermediate-advanced

2014-08-26 Thread Jean Nathan
I don't fit into any of the three categories.

I've been making lace since 1997 and I'm happy with torchon, some Bedfordshire
(except leaves), geometric Bucks and Bruges, but I have a problem with
finishing and with fine threads because I don't have sufficient feeling and
control in my fingers due to rheumatoid arthritis. I've even designed a few
pieces and had a couple appear in the UK Lace magazine.

Leaves are a problem. I've tried all the methods and will persist if I have
to; my fingers don't always behave, but if I really want to I can use a bead
instead (thanks for suggesting that Eve).

I avoid darning in ends because I aim the needle, but it doesn't necessarily
end up where I intend - (mounting on a background fabric means you can pull
the threads through to the back of the fabric instead).

Lack of sensitivity means I can break a thread while tensioning because I
can't feel how much tension I'm applying so fine threads such as used in
Honiton are out, but silk is wonderful for tensioning itself and not breaking.
I don't worry if a thread breaks, and just run a new thread alongside the
broken one.

I couldn't handle bobbins without spangles because I use the spangle to pick
up the bobbin - there are no lace police so, as it's the only method that
works for me, I'll carry on doing it regardless of what others may say. It's
either that or not make lace.

If I want to make something that uses fine thread, I enlarge the pricking and
do it in a thicker thread.

Mistakes are design elements.

I'm not going to make heirloom lace or study fine laces in museums and
collections. I'm happy with what I do as a hobby. It's the process of making
that I like, not the finished item. Although I do admire what many of you do,
I don't aspire to do the same because I know and accept my limitations.

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RE: [lace] Follow up on stains email

2014-07-12 Thread Jean Nathan
For your blood stain, if you haven't already washed it, your own saliva will
dissolve the blood. Just suck it and see!

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK.

 Since then I had some dental work and have since found a small blood spot
on
 the shoulder of a blue cotton blouse, so would things like vanish rubbed in
 remove it now it has dried on?

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[lace] Follow up on stains email (2)

2014-07-12 Thread Jean Nathan
On second thoughts it might not be that simple because the blood has dried,
but worth a go. It definitely works for fresh blood, but must be the saliva of
the same person as the blood.

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[lace-chat] Old Testament computing

2014-06-22 Thread Jean Nathan
Old Testament 
  computing


In ancient Israel , 
  it came to pass that a trader by the name of
Abraham Com did take unto 
  himself a young wife by the name of Dorothy.
And Dot Com was a comely 
  woman, broad of shoulder and long of leg.
Indeed, she was often called 
  Amazon Dot Com.

And she said unto Abraham, her husband, Why dost 
  thou travel so far
from town to town with thy goods when thou canst trade 
  without ever
leaving thy tent?

And Abraham did look at her as 
  though she were several saddle bags
short of a camel load, but simply 
  said, How, dear?

And Dot replied, I will place drums in all the 
  towns and drums in
between to send messages saying what you have for sale, 
  and they will
reply telling you who hath the best price. The sale can be 
  made on the
drums and delivery made by Uriah's Pony Stable 
  (UPS).

Abraham thought long and decided he would let Dot have her 
  way with the
drums. And the drums rang out and were an immediate success. 
  Abraham
sold all the goods he had at the top price, without ever having to 
  move
from his tent.

To prevent neighbouring countries from 
  overhearing what the drums were
saying, Dot devised a system that only she 
  and the drummers knew. It
was known as Must Send Drum Over Sound (MSDOS), 
  and she also developed
a language to transmit ideas and pictures - Hebrew 
  To The People
(HTTP).

And the young men did take to Dot Com's 
  trading as doth the greedy
horsefly take to camel dung. They were called 
  Nomadic Ecclesiastical
Rich Dominican Sybarites, or NERDS.

And lo, 
  the land was so feverish with joy at the new riches and the
deafening 
  sound of drums that no one noticed that the real riches were
going to that 
  enterprising drum dealer, Brother William of Gates, who
bought off every 
  drum maker in the land. Indeed he did insist on drums
to be made that 
  would work only with Brother Gates' drumheads and
drumsticks.

And 
  Dot did say, Oh, Abraham, what we have started is being taken over
by 
  others.

And Abraham looked out over the Bay of Ezekiel , or eBay as it came to be
known.

He said, We need a name that reflects what we 
  are.

And Dot replied, Young Ambitious Hebrew Owner 
  Operators.

YAHOO, said Abraham.

And because it was Dot's 
  idea, they named it YAHOO Dot Com.

Abraham's cousin, Joshua, being 
  the young Gregarious Energetic Educated
Kid (GEEK) that he was, soon 
  started using Dot's drums to locate things
around the 
  countryside.

It soon became known as God's Own Official Guide to 
  Locating Everything
(GOOGLE).

That is how it all began. And that's 
  the truth.

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[lace] Fan sticks

2014-05-12 Thread Jean Nathan
That type of fan is called a Jenny Lind. If you google Jenny Lind fan, there
all sorts of images and information. Basically, instead of having a whole fan
leaf spread across the sticks, each sticks has it's own feather-type shape
attached separately. A fine thead is attached to the sticks to ensure that it
opens to an approximate semi-circle and stops each stick flopping all over the
place.

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RE: [lace] Lace for wedding gown

2014-05-10 Thread Jean Nathan
Eleven OXFAM charity shops in the UK have a bridal floor with ex-catwalk and
pre-owned bridal gowns in four categories - lace-trimmed, embellished, classic
and vintage. Prices are silly ranging from just GBP 25.00 to GBP 700.00. You
can also buy on line.

They all appear to be white/ivory, so no good if you want to go with deeply
coloured ones as some are now choosing to do.

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[lace] Chantilly lace

2014-05-10 Thread Jean Nathan
I can't find the book it was in but according to one on fashion, laces used
for bridal wear were only referred to by two names. Having had a look on the
web it now seems that they're using three - Guipure, Chantilly and Alencon -
all machine made and which may or may not have any resemblance to traditional
hand-made laces of the same names.

It appears to be that Guipure means robust motifs joined together with
brides rather than a net ground, Chantilly fairly fine with mesh ground and
often with a border, Alencon a fine(ish) lace with all-over repeated outlined
motifs.

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RE: [lace] Girls Scout/Guide lace badge

2014-04-27 Thread Jean Nathan
There's a Crafts badge which includes lace-making at least for the UK:

http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/guides/gfibadge/badges/craft.html

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 Dear Amber, et al,
 I found the Textile Artist badge, but there is no online information as
 to the requirements.  Ah well.  At least now I know what there is out
 there.  I'll have to pull out my 50 year old Girl Scouts Handbook and see
 what's there.  Certainly not lace, but at least a general idea.  Thank
 you , Amber, for your information.  It confirms what I found.  Any of you
 Brits have other information?

 Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where it has been a beautiful
 spring day.



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[lace] Bruge and Kant

2014-03-06 Thread Jean Nathan
If all lace books were translated into English, why shouldn't those in English
be translated into all the other languages spoken by lace makers. Many English
speakers can't speak a foreign language so are frustrated by not being able to
read a book in say German. But I'm sure that many German lacemakers get
frustrated at not being able to read a book in English.

The latter is not as likely because very many more learn English as a second
language than English speakers learn another language. Are we arrogant or just
lazy? I suspect it's a combination of both.

Fortunately many instruction books have such good diagrams that being able to
understand the words isn't as much a handicap as it could be. If it's a case
of wanting to read the history, then the best scholars learn the language in
which it was originally written, otherwise they're getting it second hand,
i.e. someone else's version rather than the author's.

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[lace] Another group of lace bobbins on ebay

2014-03-03 Thread Jean Nathan
There's anther lot of lace bobbins on ebay. More feasible as such that the
previous lot, but they're not for bobbin lacemaking. They could be for another
type of lacemaking, if so, what?

To me they look more like elaborate toggle buttons found on duffle coats for
instance.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Wooden-lace-bobbins-craft-/261412981449?pt=UK_Cra
fts_Lace_Making_EThash=item3cdd6d8ac9

http://tinyurl.com/ndexmf5


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RE: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat, newest

2014-02-14 Thread Jean Nathan
Devon wrote:
 I suppose that in that if Crowood cannot find  the art work for the mat, it
 might be necessary for someone to send them  one of the original unused
 copies if they were to reprint it. 

If they were prepared to make a copy from an unused pricking, I'm sure most
would be happy just to have it printed on paper and not necessarily on buff
card as the original was and prick it themselves. This would make it very
cheap for them to produce.

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[lace] What is an antique in the U.S.

2014-02-14 Thread Jean Nathan
I'm going by the American editions of the Antiques Road Show that have been
shown in the UK, which of course is the only way we can judge what's
considered an antique in the US. Obviously the experts on that programme
have been lax in their definition of an antique.

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RE: [lace] re:stunned

2014-02-13 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz wrote:

 A friend who dealt in antiques said that 25 years makes vintage and 50
antique. This was told to me in the80s so it seemed right that 50s items were
vintage. However I find it strange to think of 70s items as vintage. I tend to
try not to think about the 70s at all!!!


Officially in the UK an antique has to be 100 years old. Think it's only 50
years in the US. Don't know about elsewhere.

Vintage is really a worthless phrase - it's sometimes used to describe items a
year old or less if it's no longer available and depending on what it is. A
vintage computer could only be 10 or 15 years old.

 On antiques programmes, they now seem to be regarding the 1980s as vintage.
Obviously the years will advance as time does. In the year 2000, 1900 was
antique. Now it's 1914.

I think most of us are vintage, and it won't be long before some of us are
(hopefully) antique (we already are if you use the US version)!

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[lace] Stunned - Heron and dragonfly

2014-02-13 Thread Jean Nathan
This second one didn't sell - even at only £10.00

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[lace] Stunned - Heron and dragonfly (revised)

2014-02-13 Thread Jean Nathan
Sorry,  yes it did sell for £21.99, which still isn't a lot.

Reason for thinking it didn't sell was that I had noted the Tern listing and
then looked for sellers other items completed and got the result that the
Heron had no bids at £10.00. But searching for it in the top search box gave
the totally different result.

Ebay is behaving strangely lately.

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[lace] Net in fashion

2014-02-04 Thread Jean Nathan
I think I would look fabulous in the basque with a butterfly over the bust and
another round the hips! Short and dumpy is obviously the best body shape for
that.

What a pity the model decided to scratch her bottom in the photo of the back
of the netted jacket.

All I can say about the whole collection is Wow!

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[lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Jean Nathan
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone,
turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas?
My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight
across the middle and not dip in.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511
?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f

tinied:

http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv

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[lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?‏

2014-01-31 Thread Jean Nathan
The title does say lace bobbin. The word lace is missing from the description.

I thought needle case, but with no ends, needles would fall out.

It's not clear if the grooves each end are a screw threads to take a screw on 
cap or just rings.

Rollers for lace don't usually dip in the middle.

Looks too new for animal ivory, but could be vegetable ivory. or as has been 
suggest some sort of plastic.

Used as a knife rest, it would roll.

My favourite suggest is a bead for a door curtain, but I'm not convinced about 
that.

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[lace-chat] Sex after surgery

2014-01-29 Thread Jean Nathan
In recent 
article in the Kentucky Post reported that a woman, one Anne
Maynard, has 
sued St Luke's hospital, saying that after her husband had
surgery there, he 
lost all interest in sex.

A hospital spokesman replied ... Mr. 
Maynard was admitted in
Ophthalmology - all we did was correct his 
eyesight.

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[lace] Lace foyer table

2014-01-27 Thread Jean Nathan
I shouldn't have said I found nothing - I did find tables, but no lace foyer
table.

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RE: [lace] lace foyer table

2014-01-27 Thread Jean Nathan
Can you be more specific? I just clicked your link and then searched the site
and found nothing both times.

 Hello All!  On sale at Anthropologie
http://www.anthropologie.com/anthro/product/shopsale-home/26243436.jsp
 Usual disclaimers!  Is this an interesting way to use up odd bits of
practice lace??  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA

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[lace] Fan patterns

2014-01-22 Thread Jean Nathan
Looks like Stuart Johnson's web site is in the process of being built - all I
got was details of just four of his bobbins.

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[lace] Embroidered flour sacks - history

2014-01-15 Thread Jean Nathan
It's important when reading about the history of anything to get information
from the different countries/people involved because publications from each
will tell it from their own perspective.

So for the embroidered flour sacks, there are accounts both from Belgium and
from the USA. Similarly when learning about the different laces we make.

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[lace] Article about lace in UK publication Sew - Home and Style

2014-01-12 Thread Jean Nathan


In Issue 56, February of 2014 of Sew - Home and Style there’s a 3-page
article about
lace (starts on page 28) entitled “Laced in History”. It’s a UK
publication and
therefore only deals with the UK. 

 

The first page is about
Honiton lace by Margaret Lewis of
Allhallows Museum, who finishes by directing
anyone who wants to learn how to
make Honiton lace to on-line tutorials or to
classes at Allhallows Museum.

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[lace] Article about lace in UK publication Sew - Home and Style 2nd attempt‏

2014-01-12 Thread Jean Nathan
Sorry about this - first attempt only sent first two paragraphs.

In Issue 56, February of 2014 of Sew - Home and Style there’s a 3-page
 article about lace (starts on page 28) entitled “Laced in History”. 
It’s a UK publication and therefore only deals with the UK. 
 
The
 first page is about Honiton lace by Margaret Lewis of Allhallows 
Museum, who finishes by directing anyone who wants to learn how to make 
Honiton lace to on-line tutorials or to classes at Allhallows Museum.
 
The
 second page is an interview with Gwynned Roberts of the Lace Guild, 
mainly about the work or the Lace Guild, and who apparently suggests 
simply look around for someone to teach you. There’s a sidebar 
discussing the Duchess of Cambridge’s wedding dress and the lace of 
Queen Victoria. 
 
The third page has a side bar about the Aragon 
Lacemakers in Bedfordshire, a paragraph about the Gawthorpe Hall 
textiles collection, but the rest of the page is about learning to make 
lace. Their suggestions are The Lace Guild Summer School, Allhallows 
museum or teach yourself using the House of Crafts ghastly lace making 
kit (which consists of a small polystyrene cylinder in a cardboard box 
with the poorest plastic bobbins imaginable and plastic beads),  quote 
“ideal introduction to lace making with clear patterns and tools for 
creating a selection of pieces including a flower decoration,bookmark 
and lace edging.” Guaranteed to put anyone off lace making.
 
There’s
 no mention of just how many lace makers there are in the UK and around 
the world, of contacting the Lace Guild for information in teachers, and
 lace groups in a particular area, of looking on the internet for lace 
groups on-line or in a particular area of the country, of going to the 
library or searching Amazon for instructions books.
 
I wasn’t 
impressed, but I think I’d probably be wasting my time pointing out to 
them what they’ve omitted in their suggestions on how to get started, 
and especially telling them how awful the House of Crafts kit is.
 
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RE: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving

2014-01-09 Thread Jean Nathan
Jeri wrote:

 An additional concern:  Some people put books in tote bags with their  lace
 pillows or supplies.  If jostled, the spiral and comb bound  books are much
 more likely to damage lace threads! 

I do carry books and other stuff in my pillow bag, but I always put everything
next to the base of the pillow, never on the side where the lace in progress,
bobbins and pins are. So that problem never arises. I'd assume that everyone
does the same.

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[lace] Miss Channer - Crowood web site

2014-01-08 Thread Jean Nathan
In response to Lynn's information about Crowood not being able to identify the
title, I've sent them all the information about the mat i.e. the fact that it
was a supplement, the format it took, what was printed on it, the paper folder
it came in, e.t.c., publication details of In the Cause of English Lace
(which, of course, they already have) in the hope they can find it. I added
that there are some lacemakers who would sell their grandmothers to get their
hands on a legal copy!

It's quite possible that Ruth Bean didn't include the mat as part of the sale
of their business, in which case that edition is lost forever, but at least
we'll know that that avenue can't be pursued further.

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[lace] Miss Channer - Crowood Website

2014-01-08 Thread Jean Nathan
I've already had a rely from Crowood:

Thank you for your reply. We understand that Ruth 
Bean published it as a
supplement to the title In the Cause of English 
Lace, however, so far we have
been unable to trace the artwork for 
it.
 
Yours
Ken Hathaway

Whether that means they'll continue looking is unclear.

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RE: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders

2014-01-08 Thread Jean Nathan
In the UK Staples carries both two- and four-ring A4 plain cover binders in
two, possibly three thicknesses. Rymans might also carry them.

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RE: [lace] Channer mat-copyright

2014-01-07 Thread Jean Nathan
Devon wrote:

 Copyright law is different in the US versus Britain, and I  don't know
 anything about British copyright law.
 Is it the case that Miss Channer went through the formal  process of
 copyrighting the design of the mat? If so at what date?

In the UK there is no formal process of copyrighting. It's described in full
in plain English on:

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law

A couple of important points as far as we are concerned with Miss Channer's
Mat, including the fact that copyright for it lasts for 70 years from the end
of the calendar year in which Miss Channer (if she designed it) died:

3. Types of work protectedLiterary  - song lyrics, manuscripts, manuals,
computer programs, commercial documents, leaflets, newsletters  articles etc.
(70 years)
Dramatic - plays, dance, etc. (70 years)
Musical - recordings and score. (70 years)
Artistic - photography, painting, sculptures, architecture, technical
drawings/diagrams, maps, logos. (70 years)
Typographical arrangement of published editions magazines, periodicals, etc.
(25 years)
Sound recording - may be recordings of other copyright works, e.g. musical and
literary. (50 years)
Film - video footage, films, broadcasts and cable programmes. (70 years)
The Copyright (Computer Programs) Regulations 1992 extended the rules covering
literary works to include computer programs. (70 years)



 4. When rights occurCopyright is an automatic right and
 arises whenever an
individual or company creates a work. To qualify, a 
work should be regarded
as original, and exhibit a degree of labour, 
skill or judgement. (Some
authors/designers send a copy of their work to themselves or their solicitor
by registered post and lodge the sealed envelope with their solicitor before
publication to prove it's their work if it never gets published.)

5. Who owns a piece of workNormally the individual or 
collective who authored
the work will exclusively own the work and is 
referred to as the ‘first owner
of copyright’ under the 1988 Copyright, 
Designs and Patents Act. However, if
a work is produced as part of 
employment then the first owner will normally
be the company that is the
 employer of the individual who created the work.
(Which would mean Ruth Bean owns the copyright if she employed Patricia Bury
to produce the version they published as the supplement to In the Cause of
English Lace.)

It also states what is and is not permitted - it's an offence to copy work
without the consent of the owner. Use for educational purposes is allowed (but
I don't think saying you are using it to learn Floral Bucks would count as
educational!)
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[lace] Miss Channer mat- copyright

2014-01-07 Thread Jean Nathan
Just looked at the Copyright Law page again and it states that:

For literary, dramatic, musical or artistic works70 years from the end of the
calendar year in which the last remaining author of the work dies.If
 the
author is unknown, copyright will last for 70 years from end of the
 calendar
year in which the work was created, although if it is made 
available to the
public during that time, (by publication, authorised 
performance, broadcast,
exhibition, etc.), then the duration will be 70 
years from the end of the
year that the work was first made available.


So for any other versions which have no designer noted on them, it would
really need to be established when it was first made available to establish
when copyright runs out - good luck with that.


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RE: [lace] Channer mat-copyright

2014-01-07 Thread Jean Nathan
Bev, I don't think claiming learning to make Floral Bucks would be believed -
it's hardly something you'd learn on. And I don't think for self-satisfaction
would count as educational either.

There might not have been a lawsuit regarding the mat, but didn't someone say
that action had been taken regarding another Ruth Bean publication?

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RE: [lace] Fwd: Fw: Crowood Website Enquiry

2014-01-07 Thread Jean Nathan

 This is the response I had from the publisher that took over Ruth Bean's
 works.  Perhaps someone can get in touch with them and explain where the
 Matt comes from.

It was published as a separate supplement to:
In the cause of English lace: the life and work of Catherine C. Channer
1874-1949 - Anne Buck, C.C. Channer  - Ruth Bean, 1 Dec 1991 ISBN-10:
090358526X  ISBN-13: 978-0903585262The supplement is titled:

Miss Channer's Lace Mat 
Supplement to In the Cause of English Lace 
by Anne
Buck

published 1991 by Ruth Bean Publishers 
Carlton, Bedford MK34 7LP,
England

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[lace] Miss Channer's mat pricking and Pope's cope

2014-01-05 Thread Jean Nathan
I've just noticed that on the bottom of my pricking of Miss Channer's mat is
printed Pricking adapted by Patricia Bury from an earlier copy in her
collection

There certainly are equally/more challenging Buck Point patterns. Just one is
in Fine Buckinghamshire Point Lace Patterns Belonging to the Misses
Sivewright and Pope, which has been mentioned. In it there's a pricking for
part of a Bishop's cope. It's mentioned in Thomas Wright's Romance of the
Lace Pillow with a photo of part of it on page 64.  There's a photo of the
finished item on:

http:://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/cope.htm

The person who jokingly challenged Malcom Down to make it was me after he'd
completed Miss Channer's Mat, and he would gleefully show me how far he'd got
at each meeting of PBLC.

If you have the Sivewright and Pope book, you'll see just how large it is -
half the pricking spreads across two A3 pages and those two have to be
mirrored for the other half.

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RE: [lace] Miss Channer's mat pricking and Pope's cope

2014-01-05 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz wrote:

 I think that Jean has just told us where to go for information on copyright
of the pricking. If it has been adapted by Pat Bury then the copyright will
have started for that pricking, with her.  She may have sold it to Ruth Bean,
or licensed it to her but this should be, as others have said, our starting
point

Or Ruth Bean might have commissioned and paid Patricia Bury to produce the
pricking for her and that is why Ruth Bean holds the copyright on it.

I doubt that Patricia Bury would be willing to make a another different
adaption from the one she has in her collection.  It must have taken a long
time to draft and test the one she did. The one in her collection presumably
is the copyright of someone else, possibly Catherine Channer - how complicated
these things can be.

The one I have has obviously been professional, probably mechanically,
pricked. It probably cost a lot to have the machinery set up to do that, and
that could be part of the reason why Ruth Bean was unwilling to produce more.
But I suspect that most people would be willing to prick it themselves if they
could just get their hands on a legal print of the pricking.

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RE: [lace] Re: Chandler's Mat

2014-01-04 Thread Jean Nathan
Adele wrote:

Hmmm. Not to start an international copyright war, or anything, but - suppose
somebody did make that mat from the photo, without using the pricking that
Ruth Bean published. Would they be able to, say, make a hi-resolution scan of
the mat that they made, and then either sell it or provide it to lacemakers
for free, and have it all be perfectly legal?

I wouldn't have thought it would be legal. I haven't compared the two, but
isn't the Ruth Bean one a version of the mat - 
i.e. not an exact copy of
the original. Both of those designs and photos would still be under copyright,
but you could always make a pricking of a similar mat of your own design which
had different elements in it. If the original and Ruth Bean ones aren't
identical, then that's what has been done there and Patricia Bury produced a
pricking based on the photo.

You'd have to get legal advice on whether or not you could photocopy the
existing pricking and than makes changes to it or if you'd have to start with
a blank canvas.

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RE: [lace] Miss Channer's mat

2014-01-03 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz Baker wrote:

 I was sad to hear that Ruth Bean had died, it does explain the fact that her
book list was disappearing from print.  There were a number of books that she
published on lace that I used to learn and without which I would either not
have master a technique or taken much longer to do so.


When I posted on here so me time ago that some Ruth Bean Bedfordshire books
were out of print, I immediately got an email from her husband asking where I
got that information because they were still in print.

I told him that no suppliers were carrying the books and there was no Ruth
Bean web site, so if they were in print how was anyone supposed to find them.
Apparently there was a Facebook page, but many of us have no desire to have
anything to do with Facebook. As far as I and many others were concerned Ruth
Bean had stopped publishing anything. If he has sold the business, again who
knows the business has been sold and whether or not any books are in print?
There doesn't appear to be any information on the web - I suppose it's on
Facebook. Don't these people realise they're missing out on a lot of people if
they don't also have a web page?

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[lace] Miss Channer's mat

2014-01-03 Thread Jean Nathan
As I understand it, there was a photo/picture of the original mat in In the
Cause of English Lace by Catherime Channer and Anne Buck. Catherine Channer
died in 1949, so under UK copyright law the original pricking, assuming she
did it,  would be out of copyright in 2019, 70 years after the author's death.
But does anyone know where it is?

The pricking published by Ruth Bean was reconstructed for them by Patricia
Bury, and Ruth Bean owns the copyright to this version of the pricking.

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[lace] some comments about the list

2014-01-01 Thread Jean Nathan
I don't think changes can be made to the list. It's an old and simple system,
and we are here because it is owned and was set up and is paid for by one
individual, Liz Reynolds, to whom we are all extremely grateful.

When changes, which can't happen, have been suggested in the past, groups such
as Yahoo were set up and some Arachne members joined them, but most still
remained faithful to Arachne, I think because of its immediacy. You can post a
question, and almost immediately get an answer.

We can't post pictures or other attachments, but so what? We have Flickr. And
one extremely big advantage for me at least is that we don't get bombarded by
adverts and other extraneous stuff. The message is all I want and that is what
we get.

Lace content: I acquired a very large, old, lumpy, polystyrene, large
hexagonal pillow at a cost of almost nothing. It was rejected by others as
being past it.  I took the cotton cover off, sanded the worst of the lumps
off, put a piece of thick wool coating material from my fabric stash on top
and replaced the cotton cover. I now have an almost new-feeling hexagonal
pillow. I've now just got to grow my arms long enough to reach to the far side
of it.

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[lace] Lace8

2014-01-01 Thread Jean Nathan
One simple thing  I find very useful in Lace8, which I don't think is in
earlier versions, is the ability to have a picture/photo on the page along
with a pricking. The resize of a background image is also very much easier -
instead of putting in measurements, you just drag handles.

When I'm going to start a new project and it doesn't come with thread path
diagrams, I scan it and put it into the program as a background, resize it to
match the dots and then put all the dots and markings in on one section. I
then add a picture of the finished section to the page and use it to help me
work out the thread paths, which I draw on the pricking. Because my hands
don't always work properly, it's easier for me to put the thread paths on by
computer than by hand - I can undo mistakes easier than Tipexing out the wrong
bits drawn by hand. I adjust the sizes of the pricking and picture so I can
print them on one page for reference while working.

If you're used to the toolbar selection of functions it takes a while to get
used to the right-click on the page way of doing it. Although most other
programs used this method, the way RXP does it gets ingrained into your
brain.

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[lace] Lace8 (2)

2014-01-01 Thread Jean Nathan
I'd add to Ruth's recommendation - go to the Ilsoft website and download the
demo version of Lace8 - I'm sure it's complete except for printing and saving,
but Ruth can confirm this - and try before you buy.

The features are listed on:

http://crafts.ilsoft.co.uk/pages/Lace8.aspx

and the download is on:

http://crafts.ilsoft.co.uk/pages/Downloads.aspx

I have no connection with Ilsoft, but really like their lace design program
and have upgraded as each new edition came out. I'm currently using Lace8 on
Windows 8.1 - a big jump from my almost-dead Windows XP system.

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[lace] lace bobbins?

2013-12-31 Thread Jean Nathan
This is another case of We don't know what they are but why let the truth get
in the way of a sale? Most of the world don't know what lace bobbins look
like, so we'll call them lace bobbins so a non-lacemaker will buy them, and
we'll get rid of them.

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[lace] Planning your next travel pillow?

2013-12-27 Thread Jean Nathan
I made a travel pillow (the handbag type) using foam board for the skeleton
with computer mouse pads on top for the flaps on which the bobbins rest when
in use. I included a pin cushion at one end of the roller and a small lidded
box for tools at the other end.

I never actually used it, and sold it for a stupidly large amount on ebay.

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[lace] Lace Guild Advent Calendar

2013-12-24 Thread Jean Nathan
Many thanks to Jean and David for another Advent Calendar. Each year I look
forward to opening a door each day and sending in an entry. I really don't
mind if my name isn't one of hose out of the hat. Jean and David deserve to
have as many of us as possible complete an entry to make it worth them putting
in the effort every year to bring us the calendar.

Thanks again.

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RE: [lace-chat] FW: Your Christmas Card

2013-12-20 Thread Jean Nathan
I got it OK by clicking on the first part of the link - the second part is the
same but has the last few characters missing.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

 To: lace-chat@arachne.com
 Subject: Re: [lace-chat] FW: Your Christmas Card
 From: scotl...@aol.com
 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:43:00 -0500

 I couldn't access this at all.  I tried retyping the basic address and got
a
 blank screen.  Looked at the pusher site and it seems you need to be signed
up
 to get the Christmas stuff.  A general search did produce a link to the
2012
 card but again a blank screen.  i'll just have to wonder


 Patricia in Wales





 This is amazing. After you type the address it scrolls to the right
 and there's the google street view of your house. Only trouble is
 it's sitting midst soft falling snow and it was 40C (108F) here today :)|
 David in Ballarat, AUS


 Your Christmas Card
 
 
 Click below to get something for Christmas you won't get anywhere else
 
 

http://www.pusher.com.au/clients/pusher-christmas-2011http://www.pusher.co
 m.au/clients/pusher-christmas-2
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: [lace] Knitting v crochet

2013-12-09 Thread Jean Nathan
Patricia wrote:

 I can knit and have done so since my teen years but I find crochet
difficult.
 It isn't that I don't understand as I do and it is simple.  The problem
lies
 in how I have to hold my hands to crochet; it causes problems for them and
did
 so long before I developed arthritis in my hands and wrists.  I think it is
 keeping the fingers close together as you hold hook in one hand and work in
 the other.  Making buttonhole edges on knitting with a crochet hook is much
 easier as there is a whole lot of work to hold on to.

I found it impossible to knit and do crochet when I developed rheumatoid
arthritis. I tried all sorts of things over several years and can now knit
with bamboo needles (circular needles just don't work for me) and I can
crochet with Clover Soft Touch crochet hooks. The flat pad means you don't
have to worry about the hook rotating and it's thick enough and soft enough to
be comfortable. I've tried various types of hook, but only Clover Soft Touch
work for me. I've been collecting the materials together to make a misers
purse (stainless steel ear stretchers for pierced ears are available in a
variety of diameters and eminently suitable for the sliding rings), but I've
found that I can't crochet with silk. There's something wrong about the feel
that makes it impossible. Feels as if my fingers are tangling. I'm fine with
the same thickness of cotton. So it might be worth trying different hooks and
threads if you really want to crochet.

Any thread is fine for lacemaking because I'm not touching the threads and can
move the bobbins by the spangles - there are no lace police. It's that or
don't make lace.

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[lace] Heelball

2013-11-23 Thread Jean Nathan
I've got a stick of heelball from when I did my teacher training many, many
years ago. We had it for taking rubbings of tree bark, stone walls and other
textured surfaces. Could be useful in getting natural patterns as
inspiration for designing lace.

As for my pen thickening, I've concluded that it's because I don't have fine
feeling in my fingers, or hold it properly so I mash the point. My husband,
who was a draughtsman, tried it and just Well, you've wrecked that!

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[lace] Heelball

2013-11-23 Thread Jean Nathan
According to the on-line dictionary:

A wax colored with lampblack that is used to stain and polish the edges 
of
the soles and heels of shoes or to take rubbings of brass or stone
inscriptions.

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[lace] Fine pens

2013-11-22 Thread Jean Nathan
Is anyone else as ham-fisted as me? I can turn a 0.1mm drawing pen into at
least a 0.3mm one in the time it takes to put the markings on one pricking?

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RE: [lace] Fine pens

2013-11-22 Thread Jean Nathan
Adele wrote:

 I guess you must be using a soft-tipped pen? There are some that are
hard-tipped - I think the one I found was from Staedtler (pigment liner). It
made  very fine line (.05) and the ink was permanent. I think it was pricey,
though - maybe $10.

I use rOtring technical pens, around GBP8.50 (around $13) each so not a cheap
pen and intended for technical drawings. Guess I'm just ham-fisted.

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[lace] Blue film, etc

2013-11-21 Thread Jean Nathan
In the UK readily available means you go to a specialist supplier for what
you want. Outlets like Asda (Walmart) only carry goods that will sell quickly,
and blue film isn't one of them. They might sell self-adhesive shelf covering,
but what I've seen in my local Wilko is opaque and patterned, so absolutely no
use to us. Even the few hobby shops we have don't sell blue clear, but they
MIGHT sell small rolls of other colours if it's used in whatever the current
fad craft is. Otherwise we mostly buy at lace fairs or on-line. In Poole and
Bournemouth, we're lucky in that a supplier is located nearby and we can order
by phone or on line and collect from her home.

I understood that glazed card is/was used for electrical circuit insulation or
shotgun cartridge casings, but that could be wrong. Card and paper weights in
the whole of Europe are stated in grams per square metre (gsm), and anything
mentioning pounds means nothing to us, just as I suspect gsm doesn't mean a
lot to those in the US.

Personally I'm a belt and braces person - print on white paper, stick it on
glazed card, cover with blue film with it wrapped round to the back to give a
smooth edge, then prick. I think it's a sort of ritual security blanket - if I
do that, I will enjoy making my lace.

I know that using a new pan scrubber on shiny clear film dulls it. Does the
same apply to laminating pouches?

Needlelace had to change when architects' linen became impossible to find -
but moved to blue film! We adapt as necessary.

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[lace] Machine Embroidery

2013-11-10 Thread Jean Nathan
Would Cindy Comeyne pleae contact me privately on jean...@hotmail.co.uk.

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[lace] Lace identification please

2013-11-09 Thread Jean Nathan
Those of us who have sewing machines which can embroider in hoops can produce
this kind of lace. Lots of designs available on the web, some free and some
very intricate. Instead of fabric, water soluble stabilizer is used, load the
design into the machine, press 'go' and disappear to do something else while
the machine produces the lace and then remove it from the machine and hoop
and dissolve away the backing.

The hand part whether making or finishing is setting everything up and
dissolving away the stablizer before pressing.

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[lace] Lace identification please (2)

2013-11-09 Thread Jean Nathan
And forgot to add that you also hand finish by snipping off any stray threads
from your finished machine embroidery.

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[lace] Lace identification please (3)

2013-11-09 Thread Jean Nathan
I don't use my machine to replace bobbin lacemaking - it's nothing like it.
But it is useful if you just want a quick bit of decoration on something. I
put quick in inverted commas because it isn't in sewing machine terms -
probably 30 minutes up to an hour to complete a design. But if it's one
colour, you can go and do something else.

Because I havent got a dedicated sewing machine space, I haven't done any for
a while, but I use my lace pillow cover cloth to try out designs to see if I
like them. So far it's got an embroidered picture of my last dog, Poole Bobbin
Lace logo (4 different attempts), a bolster pillow with lace and bobbins and a
piece of lace with two spangled bobbins hanging from it - the last two were
bought designs. Saves throwing away what the machine has done as well as
brightening up a plain cover cloth, which I throw over the pillow when not
working on it.

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[lace] brass lace pins a Waulking song‏

2013-10-30 Thread Jean Nathan
Now here's dedication for you. I lent my micrometer to Eve Morton, who measured 
the diameters of all her mixed up pins to get them sorted in sizes again.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 

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[lace] brass lace pins a Waulking song‏‏

2013-10-30 Thread Jean Nathan
Jeanette wrote: 
I wish I had you for a friend then I could also sort my pins How long
did it take her to sort the pins?

Don't know. She'd have to tell you that, but I think she gave me the micrometer 
back at the following week's lacemaking group.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 
  

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[lace] Storms in the UK

2013-10-29 Thread Jean Nathan
Where I am on the south coast, we had quite a bit of wind and a lot of rain.
Several trees were brought down in the area, some blocking roads, other
narrowly avoiding houses. We have a huge oak tree in the garden and there's a
lot more light coming through it now, as it lost about half its leaves - got
no idea where they ended up, as they're not in neighouring gardens. A plant
pot was blown over, as was our recycling bin, and one of the soffit panels on
the front of our garage was torn off. There were already a couple of cracks in
the garage roof, and that part of the garage was flooded. The wind woke me up
twice in the night when it was really blowing. Not anywhere near as bad as
1987 - that really was bad.

All was quiet by mid-day when I went to my lace group. Saw no sign of trees
down, and just one road sign lying on the grass verge. Everyine was there and
no-one seemed to have suffered anything much.

LACE CONTENT:
I am currently working on the simplest butterfly from Ulrike Lhor's
'Butterfly and Moth'. If that's the simplest, I have no intention of
attempting the others! I found the head extremely difficult, crossing the
threads from one side to the other and working half stitch in one colour
inside another in whole stitch. After four attempts, I decided to leave it as
it was as a design feature. Probably doesn't help that I changed the colours
to use what I already had. I also enlarged it to A4 and it's fiddly enough at
that magnification. My admiration to anyone who makes at the original size.

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[lace] Storms in the UK

2013-10-29 Thread Jean Nathan
Should have added that four people were killed in the storms in the UK- a
couple when there was an explosion at their house which was though to have
been cause by a gas main fracturing when a tree fell on it, one person when a
tree fell on their car and another when a tree fell on the mobile home she was
sleeping in.

Bad, but not as bad as it could have been.

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[lace-chat] Scousers

2013-10-29 Thread Jean Nathan
And Lancashire hot-pot is usually lamb or mutton with carrots, onions and
gravy, topped with sliced potatoes, covered and cooked slowly in the oven. The
lid is removed near the end ofcooking to brown the potatoes

Because of the slow cooking, cheap cuts of meat were used. Nowadays, almost
any ingredients can be used such as lamb chops, beef and kidney. Other
vegetable can be addeddepending on the size of the pot. It's a hot comfort
meal for cold winter days.

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[lace] Learning lace on your own

2013-10-21 Thread Jean Nathan
One reason for starting with Torchon is that is geometric on 45 degrees and if
you make a mistake such as not closing the pin or forgetting a twist it is
soo obvious and it might not be so obvious in other laces. So it's great
if you're the type of person who wants to know that their work is perfect.
Personally, I prefer my work to have design features and don't fret if
there's a mistake (or even a lot of them). It's just for me, and even if I
give it away, the recipient doesn't usually know it isn't perfect.

I don't want lacemaking to be a chore - I do it because I enjoy it.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Third hand

2013-10-17 Thread Jean Nathan
An alternative to hackle pliers are surgical forceps (hemostat in the US) or a
mini test clip adapter availble in packs of two from electrical shops such as
Radio Shack or Maplins. The mini test clips don't hold the thread as tightly
as hackle pliers, but are easier to use if you have difficulty squeezing. I
find forceps easier than hackle pliers because the squeezing action uses the
whole hand rather than just the fingers.

They've all been discussed several times on Arachne, and can be viewed in the
lace Arachne archive:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/maillist.html#03505

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[lace] tools for lacemaking

2013-10-17 Thread Jean Nathan
Just had another thought - if forceps cut thread, then they'd cut the tissue
if they were being used in surgery to clamp off blood vessels. So we must be
talking about different things. The ones I use have ridges which interlock,
but the ridges aren't sharp.

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[lace] tools for lacemaking

2013-10-17 Thread Jean Nathan
Perhaps forceps in the UK are slightly different to hemostats in the US - I've
never had any trouble with them cutting threads.

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[lace] Programme on Opus Anglicanum on BBC4‏

2013-10-03 Thread Jean Nathan
For anyone in the UK who missed this programme last night, it's repeated on 
Suday BBC4 at 8.00 pm.

Thought Dan Jones was trying to flirt (unsuccessfully) with the lady from the 
RSN.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
  

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[lace-chat] Prince George's birth announcement

2013-08-19 Thread Jean Nathan
The BBC has subtitles along the bottom of the screen for the hard of hearing
for many programmes. Mostly they're produced by voice recognition software and
some people switch them on just for the amusement they sometimes bring.

The birth was announced in subtitles as The Duchess of Cambridge gives birth
to a boy - Wayne 8 lb 6 oz.

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[lace-chat] A RETIREE'S LAST TRIP TO WAL-MART

2013-08-11 Thread Jean Nathan
Yesterday
I was at my local Wal-Mart buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal
pet, Jake, the Wonder Dog and was in the check-out line when a woman behind me
asked if I had a dog.

What did she think I had an elephant?

So because I'm retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I
didn't have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again. I added that I
probably shouldn't, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd
lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes coming
out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.

I told her that it was essentially a Perfect Diet and that the way that it
works is, to load your pants pockets with Purina Nuggets and simply eat one or
two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so it works
well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that practically
everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.)

Horrified, she asked if I ended up in intensive care, because the dog food
poisoned me. I told her no, I stopped to pee on a Fire Hydrant and a car hit
me.

I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was Laughing
so hard.

Wal-Mart won't let me shop there anymore. Better watch what you ask retired
people. They have all the time in the World to think of crazy things to say.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 

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[lace-chat] Two Prawns from Joy

2013-08-08 Thread Jean Nathan
Well Joy's message came through complete so I don't know why none of the three
I sent included the punch line. Very strange.

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[lace-chat] Two prawns

2013-08-07 Thread Jean Nathan



 
  
  
   

TWO
PRAWNS


 
  
  Far away in the tropical waters of the
Caribbean , two prawns were swimming around in the sea


  One called Justin and the other called Christian.


  The prawns were constantly being harassed and threatened by sharks that
inhabited
  the area.


  Finally one day Justin said to Christian, 'I'm fed up with being a
prawn;

  I wish I was a shark, and then I wouldn't have any worries about being
eaten.'


  A large mysterious cod appeared and said, 'Your wish is granted'


  Lo and behold, Justin turned into a shark.


  Horrified, Christian immediately swam away, afraid of being eaten by
his
  old mate.


  Time passed (as it does) and Justin found life as a shark boring and
lonely.


  All his old mates simply swam away whenever he came close to them.


  Justin didn't realize that his new menacing appearance was the cause of
his sad plight.


  While swimming alone one day he saw the mysterious cod again and he
thought perhaps the mysterious fish could change him back into a prawn.


  He approached the cod and begged to be changed back, and, lo and
behold,

  He found himself turned back into a prawn.


  With tears of joy in his tiny little eyes Justin swam back to his
friends
  and bought them all a cocktail.


  (The punch line does not involve a prawn cocktail - it's much worse).


  Looking around the gathering at the reef he realized he couldn't see
his
  old pal.


  'Where's Christian?' he asked.


  'He's at home, still distraught that his best friend changed sides to
the
  enemy  became a shark',

  Came the reply.


  Eager to put things right again and end
  the mutual pain and
torture, he set off to Christian's abode.


  As he opened the coral gate, memories came flooding back.


  He banged on the door and shouted, 'It's me, Justin, your old friend,
come out and see me again.'


  Christian replied, 'No way man, you'll eat me. You're now a shark, the
enemy,

  And I'll not be tricked into being your dinner.'


  Justin cried back 'No, I'm not. That was the old me. I've
changed.'.


  (You're going to love this.. or not)


  . . . . . . .


  . . . . . . . .

  .

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