Re: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-13 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Noelene and fellow Arachnids,

This as the other responders describe it a implement to hold the threads 
down,  just above the beginning line of the pattern, at the start of 
continental laces which don't start with paired bobbins. However, having had 
a look at the photographs on the Langendorf site I feel that physics 
preclude the metal bridge to do much work. The eyes are on the flat side of 
the bridge which means that the middle will be very loose and/or flick up, 
unless you hold that down with pins as well. I feel that the wooden, flat 
implement would work much better.


Happy lace making,

Joepie in wintry East Sussex, UK


On the langendorfkloeppel site, I have spotted a bobbin lace accessory
called a Fadenbrucke which my Google Translate can't cope with, and which
is described as an indispensable help for the beginning of lace with open
threads.

It looks like a needle with an eye at both ends - there are two sizes, one
30cm and the other 50 cm long.

My German dictionary translates this as thread bridge.

Noelene Lafferty 


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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-13 Thread Agnes Boddington
The word means Thread bridge - similar to the horseshoe, or what I use is 
a thin piece of wood 2mm thick (various lengths as needed), with holes 
either side to pin down.
I also use this as a Bedfordshire stick : when starting at an angle or 
semi-circle working in both directions with laid open pairs, it is very 
useful to butt one half of the pair up against the wood, so you can start 
the other side, then reverse the process. It makes a tricky job with 
everything sliding all over the place a lot easier.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK



The wooden gadget is also described on the site as a Fadenbrucke but it
seems to me this needle-like gadget is something different.

To me it looks like an object similar to the green horseshoe, to allow one
to lift the threads over pins.  That would also be a use of a bridge.  
Beth in Albuquerque


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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-12 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Noelene and everyone
I think you would tie individual bobbins to it, for starting with single
bobbins rather than from a bundle e.g. for Flanders lace.


 On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Noelene Lafferty 
 nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 On the langendorfkloeppel site, I have spotted a bobbin lace accessory
 called a Fadenbrucke which my Google Translate can't cope with, and
 which
 is described as an indispensable help for the beginning of lace with open
 threads.




-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-12 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Noelene -

I have not used this particular tool, but have used a dowel which was cut in 
half lengthwise, then sanded, stained and finshed. and a hole drilled in each 
end.  When working some of the Belgian laces, the bobbins are not hung in 
pairs, but rather in batches of single bobbins which are all secured to the 
pillow at the same time with a sturdy pin and a clever flip of the wrist which 
ties the threads to the shaft of the pin.   It is helpful to fan the bobbins 
out and then place the dowel, flat side down, over the threads and pin at each 
end.  The result is that your threads don't climb up each time you lift the 
bobbins!  It makes it much easier to get started.  I suspect that the accessory 
you saw has holes large enough to accommodate the pins, and a Nieves the same 
purpose.  And Lace Bridge would be a good translation, I think

Clay


On the langendorfkloeppel site, I have spotted a bobbin lace accessory
called a Fadenbrucke which my Google Translate can't cope with, and which
is described as an indispensable help for the beginning of lace with open
threads.

It looks like a needle with an eye at both ends - there are two sizes, one
30cm and the other 50 cm long.

My German dictionary translates this as thread bridge.

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-12 Thread Lyn Bailey

Dear Noelene,
This is exciting.  I actually know the answer.  It sometimes happens as in 
making a clothstitch frame around something, that you're ending up putting 
your pairs of bobbins with one bobbin pointing right, and the other bobbin 
pointing left, instead of both bobbins pointing in the same direction, using 
an even number of pairs.  When beginning something like this, it is 
difficult to maintain tension, as there are no pins involved.  So you put 
this wooden piece across the threads, perpendicular to the direction of the 
threads, and pin it down tightly.  Then you use your workers across these 
threads, usually in cloth stitch  (ctc) for a bit.  You can then remove the 
bridge and go in the other direction as well.  I actually got one of these 
as a favor at a lace convention.  You can do without it, but it's a neat 
little gizmo.  I use it when I am making a label using Ulrike Voelker's 
little Flanders book.  You can make pretty signs with letters.  Ingenious.


http://langendorfkloeppel.de/en/bobbinaccessories.html  is the url for the 
item in question.


Lyn in Lancaster, where the weather is typical March, all over the place. 
But the rain has stopped, and we're in for some cool windy weather, perhaps 
clouds, perhaps rain.  Got 2 inches 5 cm of rain today.


Noelene wrote:
On the langendorfkloeppel site, I have spotted a bobbin lace accessory
called a Fadenbrucke which my Google Translate can't cope with, and which
is described as an indispensable help for the beginning of lace with open
threads.



It looks like a needle with an eye at both ends - there are two sizes, one
30cm and the other 50 cm long.

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RE: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-12 Thread Noelene Lafferty
Thanks for all the prompt replies, but the item I saw on the website is not
the wooden bridge to secure threads flat on the pillow.  As I mentioned, it
is a 50 or 30cm long needle-like gadget, with an eye each end.  It is the
two items above the wooden gadget on the langendorfkloeppel website.

The wooden gadget is also described on the site as a Fadenbrucke but it
seems to me this needle-like gadget is something different.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-12 Thread Clay Blackwell
Yes, i think it is used for the same purpose.

Clay

The wooden gadget is also described on the site as a Fadenbrucke but it
seems to me this needle-like gadget is something different.

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-12 Thread Lyn Bailey

Dear Noelene,
Good point, but since I do know what the wooden bridge does, having used it, 
and since the description is exactly the same, I suspect it has the same 
purpose.  Also, the translation for part of the description for the wooden 
one is, the refined variant.  Maybe the curve helps to put pressure on the 
lace threads in the middle?  The needle eyes would be the same as holes for 
pinning?  Or maybe it holds down the bobbins instead of the threads?  But 
clearly, from the text, the purpose is the same.  The difference in lengths 
does not, however, translate into bigger or smaller, just a different shape 
for the same purpose.   lrb


Noelene wrote:
Thanks for all the prompt replies, but the item I saw on the website is not
the wooden bridge to secure threads flat on the pillow.  As I mentioned, it
is a 50 or 30cm long needle-like gadget, with an eye each end.  It is the
two items above the wooden gadget on the langendorfkloeppel website.

The wooden gadget is also described on the site as a Fadenbrucke but it
seems to me this needle-like gadget is something different.

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace accessory

2013-03-12 Thread Elizabeth Stoll
The wooden gadget is also described on the site as a Fadenbrucke but it
seems to me this needle-like gadget is something different.

To me it looks like an object similar to the green horseshoe, to allow one
to lift the threads over pins.  That would also be a use of a bridge.  The
center seems to be thicker than the ends with the holes for pinning to the
pillow.

Beth in Albuquerque

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