Re: [lazarus] Re: Re: Re: unicode lcl?

2006-04-28 Thread Micha Nelissen
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On 4/27/06, roozbeh gholizadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway,is it a good idea to add widetext and widecaption to all wince controls? Anyway the overhead in wince is using ansistring,becouse the whole system is unicode. I have another idea. To have another

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros

2006-04-28 Thread Micha Nelissen
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Don't forget that a good programmer/administrator in Europe or the U.S. costs between 50k and 150k Eur per year. Exactly, and I estimate that the donations we get will only be a fraction of this, so using donations to sponsor developers is only a dream. *Poof* :-).

Re: [lazarus] PDAs, Smartphones and form design

2006-04-28 Thread darekM
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho napisał(a): Hello, I´ve being talking to roozbeh about adding Smartphone and PDA support for Lazarus. Bellow I will try to summarize some problems and give a possible solution. Please contribute with your own solutions or other problems I haven´t thought of.

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros

2006-04-28 Thread Marc Weustink
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lazarus Foundation (pros) advantages and disadvantages I think that the 2 main reasons that support a Lazarus/FPC foundation are: - Organization - Donations Before I continue, let me say that I thanks all the guys in this community for their work, and any comment I

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros

2006-04-28 Thread Giuliano Colla
Marc Weustink ha scritto: [...] what will a foundation offer for those outside the us ? Marc I'm afraid that sometimes we get confused by what others do. We see what they do, but we fail to grasp why. Others set up a foundation, why don't we do the same? But one should first of all

[lazarus] Re: PDAs, Smartphones and form design

2006-04-28 Thread roozbeh gholizadeh
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:41:54 +0330, darekM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho napisał(a): Hello, I´ve being talking to roozbeh about adding Smartphone and PDA support for Lazarus. Bellow I will try to summarize some problems and give a possible solution. Please

[lazarus] Re: PDAs, Smartphones and form design

2006-04-28 Thread roozbeh gholizadeh
I think wince disscussion are very important for lazarus,as it can become the only development tool in this field which is a real rad tool. Currently the only alternative is evc3 for 2002 oses,evc4 and visual studio 4 for higher versions.Or bds 2005/bds 2006 for .netcf If not choosing

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation

2006-04-28 Thread Ales Katona
Florian Klaempfl wrote: And more importantly, where will this lead us in the future? It keeps the fun for the current developers so they will continue to work on fpc. As soon as you get money for something, you've pressure, deadlines etc. and the fun will be lost. Well said.

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation

2006-04-28 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Ales Katona wrote: Florian Klaempfl wrote: And more importantly, where will this lead us in the future? It keeps the fun for the current developers so they will continue to work on fpc. As soon as you get money for something, you've pressure, deadlines etc. and the fun will be lost.

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation

2006-04-28 Thread Marc Weustink
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Ales Katona wrote: Florian Klaempfl wrote: And more importantly, where will this lead us in the future? It keeps the fun for the current developers so they will continue to work on fpc. As soon as you get money for something, you've pressure, deadlines etc. and

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation

2006-04-28 Thread Ales Katona
To speed up development significantly you need at least 1 Mio Eur and this is unlikely to raise. It would speed up development but ruin everything else in the end IMHO. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation

2006-04-28 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Ales Katona wrote: To speed up development significantly you need at least 1 Mio Eur and this is unlikely to raise. It would speed up development but ruin everything else in the end IMHO. Well, one could hire e.g. a developer (not one the core developers) being payed to do gtk2 support

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation

2006-04-28 Thread rstar
Florian Klaempfl wrote: To speed up development significantly you need at least 1 Mio Eur and this is unlikely to raise. No. We take a piece DNA from F.K. and clone him 10 times. One week later we have FPC 6.0 and Lazarus 5.0

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation

2006-04-28 Thread Burkhard Carstens
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 15:42 schrieb Florian Klaempfl: Ales Katona wrote: To speed up development significantly you need at least 1 Mio Eur and this is unlikely to raise. It would speed up development but ruin everything else in the end IMHO. Well, one could hire e.g. a

Re: [lazarus] Re: PDAs, Smartphones and form design

2006-04-28 Thread darekM
roozbeh gholizadeh napisał(a): On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:41:54 +0330, darekM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho napisał(a): Hello, I´ve being talking to roozbeh about adding Smartphone and PDA support for Lazarus. Bellow I will try to summarize some problems and give a

Re: [lazarus] Re: Re: Re: unicode lcl?

2006-04-28 Thread darekM
roozbeh gholizadeh napisał(a): On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:02:54 +0330, Marc Weustink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:42:46 +0330 roozbeh gholizadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:12:10 +0330, Marc Weustink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents

2006-04-28 Thread lazarus . mramirez
Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community, that I got from a another thread in the mailing list (Lazarus Foundation). Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus or FPC due to patents ? Borland, usuallys has an open mind with open source communities. But, I

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros

2006-04-28 Thread lazarus . mramirez
Hi. I think they have a way bigger userbase that we have. Sure, they do :-) But, just because pascal-related communities are smaller than c#, c++ or Java ones, doesn't mean we have to switch to those languages, and forget about pascal... There are 10-20 messages everyday there. Then, I have

Re: [lazarus] [patch] textOut on gtk2

2006-04-28 Thread darekm
Jesus Reyes wrote: --- darekm [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi textOut once more and clipping (sometimes buttons are not refresh after tHint disappear Darek [snip] I also have a patch for GTK2 CreateFontIndirectEx, I simplified the function a little and added support for font

[lazarus] Property EchoMode of a TEdit dialog

2006-04-28 Thread Arí Ricardo Ody
I select emPassword in the combo of values of the property EchoMode of a TEdit and, when I run the project, the characters I type are showed normally in in the TEdit box. May I do something wrong? Greetings from São Paulo - Brazil Ricardo Visit Porto Alegre, the capital of brazilian Rio

Re: [lazarus] PDAs, Smartphones and form design

2006-04-28 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Donnerstag, den 27.04.2006, 20:34 -0300 schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: Problem 2 - The Screen size varies greatly with manufacturer. Wouldn't something like html forms in tables do enough? If the screen gets too small the last control is shifted to the next line. I think java and its

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents

2006-04-28 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community, that I got from a another thread in the mailing list (Lazarus Foundation). Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus or FPC due to patents ? Borland, usuallys has an open

[lazarus] Re: Re: Re: Re: unicode lcl?

2006-04-28 Thread roozbeh gholizadeh
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:14:11 +0330, Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please stop using the confusing term 'unicode'. Wince is UTF-16. I really didnt know the diffrence.so is unicode called for utf-32? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

[lazarus] Re: Re: Re: Re: unicode lcl?

2006-04-28 Thread roozbeh gholizadeh
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:35:05 +0330, Micha Nelissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On 4/27/06, roozbeh gholizadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway,is it a good idea to add widetext and widecaption to all wince controls? Anyway the overhead in wince is using

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents

2006-04-28 Thread anteusz
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community, that I got from a another thread in the mailing list (Lazarus Foundation). Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus or FPC due to patents ?

Re: [lazarus] Re: Re: Re: unicode lcl?

2006-04-28 Thread darekM
Marc Weustink napisał(a): darekM wrote: roozbeh gholizadeh napisał(a): On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:02:54 +0330, Marc Weustink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:42:46 +0330 roozbeh gholizadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:12:10 +0330,

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents

2006-04-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 4/28/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. FPC/Lazarus is a european project mostly, and software patents are not enforced in Europe. They have no clear legal status here. A more clear example: I will help the One Laptop Per Child Foundation develop one of their softwares. I am

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros

2006-04-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 4/27/06, Florian Klaempfl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, to get this discussion to something useful and have some hard numbers: What should do a lazarus foundation having 100 Eur Play on the lotery and see if we can get more money. 1000 Eur Create a Bountie (

[lazarus] Is this a bug?

2006-04-28 Thread Arí Ricardo Ody
I'm developing a project when I open a screen where the user must type a password in a TEdit box. I select emPassword in the EchoMode property of the mentioned TEdit box waiting that characters type would be replaced by an asterisc, but it isn't happen. Is it a bug? How do I obtain the

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents

2006-04-28 Thread George Lober
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community, that I got from a another thread in the mailing list (Lazarus Foundation). Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus or FPC due to patents ?

Re: [lazarus] [patch] textOut on gtk2

2006-04-28 Thread Jesús Reyes A.
- Original Message - From: darekm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lazarus@miraclec.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [lazarus] [patch] textOut on gtk2 Jesus Reyes wrote: --- darekm [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi textOut once more and clipping (sometimes buttons

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Andrews
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: 1. FPC/Lazarus is a european project mostly, and software patents are not enforced in Europe. They have no clear legal status here. But they are enforced here when the patent holder asks the PTO to do so. 2. They would be shooting in their own foot, because

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation

2006-04-28 Thread johnf
At first I did not care if there was a Free Pascal foundation or not. But with recent events I have changed my mind. I think if there were people being paid to be involved there would be more response to this Mail List and other issues. If my rent money depended on making sure Free Pascal

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents

2006-04-28 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 4/28/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While lazarus looks like plagiarism, MSEGUI looks like creativity. Almost all softwares are plagiarism. To start with all GNU projects are a plagiarism of some kind. GNU is plagiarism of UNIX. GCC from other compilers. KDE is a plagiarism from Windows

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents

2006-04-28 Thread johnf
On Friday 28 April 2006 17:43, George Lober wrote: This fact baffles me. Why isn't there more participation in development from North America ? What a loaded question. I think I know why. It has nothing to do with Pascal. John