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Enviada em: domingo, 30 de abril
de 2006 20:34
Para: lazarus@miraclec.com
Assunto: RE: [lazarus] Lazarus vs
Patents
Here
on Turkey, Visual Basic and Delphi were both most used languages by relatively
elder organizations. New ones now chooses between Java and .NET (yet Delphi
.NET not even considered
On 5/1/06, Henrique de Paula Faria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FPC and Lazarus are not different. BTW they´re better because are plataform
independent.
Better then what?
On their website I see they only have it available for windows x86,
linux x86 and Macintosh PowerPC.
Lazarus has a few more:
That´s what i meant. FPC and Lazarus are better. :)
Henrique.
-Mensagem original-
De: Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 1 de maio de 2006 14:47
Para: lazarus@miraclec.com
Assunto: Re: [lazarus] Lazarus vs Patents
On 5/1/06, Henrique de
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: lazarus@miraclec.comSubject: RES: [lazarus] Lazarus vs PatentsDate: Mon, 1 May 2006 13:44:56 -0300
Do you remember BASIC ? (GWBasic, Quick Basic), there are a lot of people out there that still works with its open project like FREEBASIC. FPC and Lazarus are not
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:59:50 -0400 (EDT)
Michael A. Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can answer that. It isn't taught in school at all. If you go to any
school and I mean any school that teaches CompSci in any way they will
tell you that, Pascal is a dead and useless language. Nobody uses
So guess what. If they don't even know what Delphi is they are not going
to move to use FPC/Lazarus. It is a very tough sell here in the US.
You just - unwillingly, I assume - provided a good reason to relocate
the new Borland 'DevCo' to a place outside the US, considering their
flagship has
On 4/30/06, Florian Klaempfl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Pascal/Delphi whatever is always stronger in Europe.
On Brasil Delphi is very popular. I would say it is almost as popular as Java.
It could be much more popular, but Borland's bad decisions / marketing
and etc is hurting it.
Here on Turkey, Visual Basic and Delphi were both most used languages by relatively elder organizations. New ones now chooses between Java and .NET (yet Delphi .NET not even considered, just MS Visual Studio)
On the other hand in universities pascal considered as old, incapable anddead
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. FPC/Lazarus is a european project mostly, and software patents
are not enforced in Europe. They have no clear legal status here.
2. They would be shooting in their own foot, because FPC/GPC are
actually enlarging their user-base instead
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On 4/28/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.
FPC/Lazarus is a european project mostly, and software patents
are not enforced in Europe. They have no clear legal status here.
A more clear example: I will help the One Laptop
No problem. Some remarks:
1. FPC/Lazarus is a european project mostly, and software patents
are not enforced in Europe. They have no clear legal status here.
2. They would be shooting in their own foot, because FPC/GPC are
actually enlarging their user-base instead of making it smaller.
Michael Van Canneyt a écrit :
Assuming that we are actually infringing on any patents (which I don't believe):
It perfectly sums up the problem : you don't believe. But you cannot
know. The only way to know whether a software is infringing a
patent is to publish this software and to wait for
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, George Lober wrote:
1. FPC/Lazarus is a european project mostly
This fact baffles me. Why isn't there more participation in development
from North America ? Surely the appeal of Pascal isn't limited to
cultural or national borders. Is it lack of interest for Pascal ?
I can answer that. It isn't taught in school at all. If you go to any
school and I mean any school that teaches CompSci in any way they will
tell you that, Pascal is a dead and useless language. Nobody uses Pascal
anymore.
This was almost the exact quotation I heard from people on a local
Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community,
that I got from a another thread in the mailing list
(Lazarus Foundation).
Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus
or FPC due to patents ?
Borland, usuallys has an open mind with open source communities.
But, I
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community,
that I got from a another thread in the mailing list
(Lazarus Foundation).
Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus
or FPC due to patents ?
Borland, usuallys has an open
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community,
that I got from a another thread in the mailing list
(Lazarus Foundation).
Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus
or FPC due to patents ?
On 4/28/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.
FPC/Lazarus is a european project mostly, and software patents
are not enforced in Europe. They have no clear legal status here.
A more clear example: I will help the One Laptop Per Child Foundation
develop one of their softwares.
I am
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community,
that I got from a another thread in the mailing list
(Lazarus Foundation).
Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus
or FPC due to patents ?
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
1. FPC/Lazarus is a european project mostly, and software patents
are not enforced in Europe. They have no clear legal status here.
But they are enforced here when the patent holder asks the PTO to do so.
2. They would be shooting in their own foot, because
On 4/28/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While lazarus looks like plagiarism, MSEGUI looks like creativity.
Almost all softwares are plagiarism. To start with all GNU projects
are a plagiarism of some kind. GNU is plagiarism of UNIX. GCC from
other compilers.
KDE is a plagiarism from Windows
On Friday 28 April 2006 17:43, George Lober wrote:
This fact baffles me. Why isn't there more participation in development
from North America ?
What a loaded question. I think I know why. It has nothing to do with
Pascal.
John
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