Quoting Christian Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1.
Is nobody intrested that the lazarus help gets better ?
I think this is an good step to have primary descriptions and tuturials.
2.
How is it possible to make the fcl,lcl help multilanguage ? I dont
see any way at time !
My humble suggestion:
...
In Lazarus, may be things under construction, but don't let your
students/coworkers migrate to other tools that doesn't
allow them to develop the skills THEY WILL NEED IN THE JOB MARKET,
EVEN IF LATER THEY HAVE TO WORK IN C# OR JAVA !!!
Good Luck ;-)
Marco Ramirez
lazarus-mramirez-at-star
Quoting Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm not an font expert, so I don't know, what properties are needed by
TFont to make it cross platform (if this is possible).
Mattias
Hope it helps:
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsicat_id=FontDownloads
Quoting Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The problem is not so easy:
the fpc commandline has only the project file on it.
a simple pre-compile command without additional IDE functionality.
A potential solution is that instead of calling the commandline fpc,
he uses its own fpc
Quoting Marc Santhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The goal in doing so would be using a specialized macro processor
I'm surprise for your question, because I started been interested in
language/compiler design because I wanted a preprocessor for Turbo
Pascal,
like Turbo C++ ;-)
Let me
Quoting David Mears [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The only two things Pascal really misses for me are think ability to
natively link with C++, and keyword level associative arrays. The later
What do you mean by keyword level associative arrays ?
Quoting Kris Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
is create something for FPC/Lazarus which is similar to a SFS (Single
File System) so all files are stored as a byte stream in a single file.
Micro$oft call this Structured Access instead of Virtual File System.
Other people use the words Virtual File
I have done something similar in windowze and delphi...
which accept a path/filename to use the files in the VFS, for example
loading a DLL.
I have a suggestion, but first I need to know.
How do you regularly access (open, read, write) O.S. files ?
As streams (MyStream.Open, MyStream.Close)
Quoting Kris Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is it possible to convert a memory byte stream (eg. TFileStream) in to
a File pointer for use with normal file routines?
Quick-Easy Answer:
No. Any class (like TFileStream) is stored different in memory that
a File type.
Long-Difficult-Boring Answer:
Using C++ libraries from other languages is either bloat or hard to use.
In theory, many C++ libraries should be faster, in practice they're not.
This is due to the fact that many C++ developers are just to desperate to
start programming, skipping the design process.
Remember that Pascal was
KDE RSS. They would be talking about the use of QT and the pascal
language
at the same time. The KDE programmers are mostly c++ guys but all use QT.
Of course there must be a similar RSS for Gnome programmers.
John
After all, Kylix was QT based.
I don't have time or skills to work with
1. class that can have more then one object as it's parent (at this
Multiple Inheretance. Difficult to understand, difficult to implement,
but I have a problem where multiple inheretance was the solution, instead
of multiples interfaces.
2. Powerful containers for class usage such as class X
guess C is still faster to run, but definitely not for readability and
friendliness. ;-)
C is still faster to run, or faster to compiler ?
Depends on the compiler and generated code ;-)
Cheers.
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx]
The AutoSize doesn't work at all, not even in the Win32 widgetset. If
I remember correctly, you need to manually (in code) set AutoSize :=
False and set the ToolButton Width in the ToolBar, which will then
resize all buttons on the bar.
If you don't come right, I can have a look in my
Hi.
Do any of you type on a Dvorak layout keyboard?
No, but some days ago I was checking ergonomic keyboards and found some
pages about Dvorak, interesting.
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx]
For those that have never heard of Dvorak follow the white rabbit.
http://www.kaufmann.no/roland/dvorak/
I followed a black rrabit and found this:
http://www.dvortyboards.com/
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx]
Might be a Dvorak issue, period. :) I never encountered someone using
that. It sounded great 3 years ago when I've read about it, but I
never found one in French. :) I guess it's better like that too (me
without having to learn that).
http://www.language-keyboard.com/languages/french.htm
Hi.
I wrote some components for use in delphi,
Im also starting to migrate my delphi components to Lazarus.
is there any special things to note in conversions?
First, of all, by components do you mean Visual controls or
just drag and drop non visual components ?
The first thing you may
Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea to change
the name. I don't think either that the board of directors of lazarus
Hi.
I have start some message threads that finish in flame wars,
like foundation one, which wasn't my intention.
But I didn't start the message
For anybody who still insists to this name changing idea, I believe you're
still allowed to build a new project based on Lazarus source codes and
I DIDN'T START THE TOPIC,
but even that I think it's a good idea to change the name (in time),
I would like to wait to see Lazarus more mature,
and
We could use the principle of interfaces yes, but I don't think it
Wait, Delphi Help system is supported by interfaces,
but Lazarus still doesn't, by the moment, right ?
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx]
one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format
Ça va.
What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php
script that calls that database...
Just my 2 cents.
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx]
UTF-16 is multibyte.
There are more unicode characters than 2 byte numbers, so you won't find a
complete 2 byte unicode encoding.
I read somewhere that there was a previous Unicode format that ALWAYS uses
2 bytes for each character, but DOESN'T support all languages.
If I'm right, we can use
AFAIK you can't choose the Bidi of a font. Bidi is defined by the
characters. An 'a' is always left-to-right, while an arabic character is
always RTL, no matter what the font is called or setup.
Can you define, what a BIDI property should do?
I remember a post of a user that wanted to write
Hi.
Im currently making some tests with Lazarus/Win,
and since I going to install it on *Linux I have some
questions.
Speaking of GUI Interface and Lazarus Visual Controls.
1. We have 2 main Linux platforms:
- GTK based Linux with Gnome interface
- QT based Linux with KDE interface
right ?
utf-16 doesn´t have the same number of bytes for all characters. There
are also 32 bit characters on utf-16
I read somewhere in the Unicode page that there is a format with
2 bytes for all characters (monobyte/ utf-16? ) and another
that the number of bytes changes changes (multibyte / UCS-2 ?)
Take TEdit for example, which has been extended to contain properties like
the Font property.
Ok, you were making reference to the controls design,
not the character enconding...
Yes, I get, I know about OOP principles. Actually once
I try to make a TFont descendant in a visual control,
but It
But I would like to see that implemented via composition rather than
extension.
I have read the Unicode Standard docs. But What do you mean by
composition rather than extension.
As I remember, each (Unicode) character like Arabic, are stored a as a
sequence of data that a S.O. rendering
The question is: should the LCL use the 'native' string type and let the
applications write three times the code. Or should the LCL use UTF-8 and
map internally in the interfaces and let the applications write once and
compile anywhere.
Maybe BOTH STUFF.
There are some O.S.'es that support
Well the only solution i see is something like tnt componenets.
Maybe, and have an especial property editor for those wide properties,
since the text property cannot be used directly.
using encoded string you have to decode them and then use those functions!
Some applications on windowze
But I would like to see that implemented via composition rather than
extension.
Composition means something like this ? :
a
href=http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr17/index.html#CharacterEncodingModel;
http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr17/index.html#CharacterEncodingModel/a
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Marco Aurelio
richedit components,and answers was it is not availble on other platforms?
RichEdit format is a file format like HTML or PDF, uses tag and its
difficult to implement.
win32-lazarus?and same for other oses or interfaces?
The is a Lin32 tab I think.
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
[EMAIL
1 - We cannot just get dependent on Open Office. It´s a huge
dependency, and won´t work on wince for example.
Open Office format it's too complicated for a help file.
a lot of stuff ready.
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [.mx]
more productive route ATM, if the coder doesn't care anyway.
Micha
It seems that the one that implements it's proposal wins...
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [.mx]
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Conclusion:
The .po format is not designed/meant for large pieces of continuous text.
The cool thing about *.po files are
One text file for a set of messages, each message with a string ID.
What about a BINARY replacement of text files such as:
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Binary Help Index table
Hi, I have a question.
Who of you need Unicode support in visula controls.
What non Latin languages (such as Arabic, Chinese) do you need to be
supported ?
Just curious.
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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [.mx]
Source file must be thought to be easy for nationalization (i. e. use
.po files in the source).
Maybe a source format file combination of *.po files and a XML file:
xml
title path= title.po /
contents path= contents.po /
/xml
So IMHO:
source file: several .po chapters
XML is fine , we only need :
1. a tool to export to various formats (HTML,PDF,CHM - all with index if
possible)
2. a tool to index XML (full text search-help index) - for IDE usage
(context help and others)
It's seems we're getting to something similar to a html source file
format and an
Overview
Hi, I started a new thread in order to summarize the comments about
a Help System or Help File Format for Lazarus, or even FPC.
Sorry, but I think the Re: [lazarus] New help doc format? thread
was getting to big, and focused in how to implement a help system,
and forgot the
This was Lazarus vs Patents thread...
Here in Mexico, a lot of universities, collegues or schools
doesn't known about Pascal either...
I ALSO have to explain, many times,
a lot of professors, students or developers,
that the same way that C++, Java and C#
evolve from ANSI C, the same goes for
Is this enougth to buy Trolltech and make them switch to pascal?
--
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
You give good suggestions about what a foundation could do for each
amount.
And for Trolltech, i don't think they would leave C++ and its MOC
metacompiler, but adding an Object Pascal language
Hi.
What they need is people. They (we?) don't need a foundation to make a
better website, but we need someone to make a better website. Obviously
the core developers don't care much about that. They have other
interests.
Your idea of, making some improvements to the community as an
Hi, I have a question for the Lazarus/FPC community,
that I got from a another thread in the mailing list
(Lazarus Foundation).
Does someones knows if there's a potential problem with Lazarus
or FPC due to patents ?
Borland, usuallys has an open mind with open source communities.
But, I
Hi.
I think they have a way bigger userbase that we have.
Sure, they do :-)
But, just because pascal-related communities are smaller than
c#, c++ or Java ones, doesn't mean we have to switch to those
languages, and forget about pascal...
There are 10-20 messages everyday there.
Then, I have
Hi.
Lazarus or FPC do not have administration, leadership, control, resources,
etc.
Wait, this isn't a flame war
Lazarus does administration and the other stuff, but I think there's a
point where all this stuff may get slower, if you get the idea.
Metaphor: The same way there's a limit to a
Mensaje original
Asunto: Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros
De: Flávio Etrusco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha: Mie, 26 de Abril de 2006, 4:35 pm
Para: lazarus@miraclec.com
This means we need more people who do not necessarily need to write code
(patches) or documentation, but do have knowledge about all kinds of
lazarus
features (by using it themselves regularly for example), and can help
users with their problems.
Micha
Hi.
By developers, I don't mean
Lazarus Foundation (pros) advantages and disadvantages
I think that the 2 main reasons that support a Lazarus/FPC foundation are:
- Organization
- Donations
Before I continue, let me say that I thanks all the guys in this community
for their work, and any comment I make, it will be as a
Hi.
http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html
Ops, no money, sorry.
If yes, what project would you like to see done for lazarus ?
Dynamic package linking ?
Would you be interested in a whole ressource editor intégrated into
the ide or in a separate tool ? (icons/xpms/bmp/windows
Hi, everyone.
I read a post about Google Summer of Code 2006 and Lazarus project
resources, and I wonder, is there a Lazarus Foundation or FreePascal
Foundation ?
I have check both websites, and we have both (open source) communities,
but legally speaking, I haven't found any foundation.
In
Hi.
Peter, I suggest to add characters to your answers, it seems that 2
persons reply to this message but I couldn't check which one was you
answer...
Is this similar what Intraweb does in Delphi/Kylix?
I don't know about Intraweb, but I have seen similar frameworks on the net.
A completely
I didn't write that webpage, otherwise it wouldn't have used tables. I
did write http://tdbf.sf.net though.
Micha
Hi, are you involve in the tdbf component development ?
In case you are, I downloaded a copy of that component sometime ago
and made a descendant with some improvements...
Hi.
minus title bar height. Actually, in Lazarus TForm.Height is equal to
TForm.ClientHeight in Delphi.
The CLX (QT) form in delphi had a similar problem,
I need it to simulate MDI forms with independent windows/forms,
and need it to known the height of title bar...
So, ones more - I can't
Hi, I have tried to install lazarus in windoze,
without success.
The lazarus web page seems abandon,
and I didn't allow me to download
sources...
Does anybody knows where I can get
updated stable binaries or sources
of lazarus for windowze ?
Or any manual to work with fpc and sources ?
Thanks.
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