Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread guitarlynn
I would just like to thank everyone for this discussion. Due to limited examples and precise wording designed to be clear (but somehow let most of the information vague), I am finally coming into a more complete understanding of what was originally proposed, and what direction some developers

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Mirror

2002-02-15 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
SF provides nightly tarballs of our repository for backup purposes. http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/leaf-cvsroot.tar.gz I grabbed our CVS tarball yesterday, but have yet to try and make a repository out of it. Current size is about 35 Meg. I'd prefer to not have to download this

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Mirror

2002-02-15 Thread Mike Noyes
Charles Steinkuehler, 2002-02-15 08:21 -0600 SF provides nightly tarballs of our repository for backup purposes. http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/leaf-cvsroot.tar.gz I grabbed our CVS tarball yesterday, but have yet to try and make a repository out of it. Current size is about 35

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Correction: my bad . . . Michael D. Schleif wrote: VoilĂ ! Serge Caron wrote: Let me reduce my confusion to its firstmost problem: How does your sed process facilitate ``*I don't backup program binaries*''? AFAIK, ${pkg}.list files -- _minus_ ${pkg}.exclude.list files -- define

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Correction #2: my bad . . . Michael D. Schleif wrote: VoilĂ ! Serge Caron wrote: Let me reduce my confusion to its firstmost problem: How does your sed process facilitate ``*I don't backup program binaries*''? AFAIK, ${pkg}.list files -- _minus_ ${pkg}.exclude.list files --

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
David Douthitt wrote: On 2/14/02 at 8:05 AM, Michael D. Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that it is available; but, it is *not* included in DCD -- is it included in Oxygen? I do not argue against its usage; rather, I am often frustrated by lack of real awk, sed and sort --

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
David Douthitt wrote: On 2/14/02 at 4:36 PM, Michael D. Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, /var/log is the standard residence of logfiles. Is it? Only in Linux apparently; my Unixware and HP-UX systems use /var/adm/syslog. I am sorry that you always miss my point. We are

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Mike Noyes
At 2002-02-15 09:58 -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: How many times need I state: ``NO, I am not advocating any system of commandments and laws, transgression of which invokes the ire of the greater community; rather, I believe that it is important -- no, critical -- that I, as LEAF user and,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Serge Caron wrote: [ snip ] I am waiting for a plane and cannot do that right now. I suggest you visit http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/scaron/leaf.htm with a fresh eye and mess around with the discussion.img floppy. Please take apart root.lrp before you start (just for fun!). If I

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Matt Schalit
Michael D. Schleif wrote: David Douthitt wrote: [snip] Not only is standardization impossible, but the little variances are what makes a distribution individual and perhaps better than others. Nothing is impossible. In fact, your dependent clause, again, is my point! We have

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Mirror

2002-02-15 Thread Matt Schalit
Mike Noyes wrote: Charles Steinkuehler, 2002-02-15 08:21 -0600 I hate to be a bit lazy, but lacking all the fancy Linux distro's, I was wondering if somebody could distill the essential commands needed to grab everything in bulk data format so that I'd just have a few .tgz files or

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Mike Noyes
At 2002-02-15 15:34 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote: That doesn't work. This place is just a central location for people to congregate. I don't think it's a top down, standards producing enumeration of anything. But that's just what I took from Mike Noyes's explanation of what LEAF was when I

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Matt Schalit
Serge Caron wrote: Hello Matt, First, the important stuff: or any of us lacked passion. That's kind of insulting. And what Please accept a direct apology from me to you for no other reason than the fact that your feelings were hurt. No problem, my feelings weren't hurt. I was

[Leaf-devel] The OTHER side....

2002-02-15 Thread David Douthitt
No I'm not talking about Windows.. :-) I found something called a SG Cluster, which is a floppy-based load distributor system based on PicoBSD (a floppy-based BSD distribution now being released WITH FreeBSD sources - like tinyX is). This floppy will act as a load director - that is, it

[Leaf-devel] Archives, Sources, CVS et al

2002-02-15 Thread David Douthitt
I finally came to realize what the confusion I was feeling was - especially in reference to sources that are used IN a base LEAF system. I had been considering three different methods of creating packages or binaries: * Create a directory in the source tree (lrp/) and do a make in this

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread David Douthitt
On 2/15/02 at 9:58 AM, Michael D. Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Douthitt wrote: On 2/14/02 at 4:36 PM, Michael D. Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, /var/log is the standard residence of logfiles. Is it? Only in Linux apparently; my Unixware and HP-UX