Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-25 Thread George Metz
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Ewald Wasscher wrote: Perhaps a way to think about it is from the point of view of the newcomer. I think we really should. Agreed. This, however, is more a function of marketing than the engineering behind it. Easy enough to do, once we have that base system laid

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-24 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Scott C. Best wrote: George: Sorry for the late reply... Time to do some good old-fashioned market classification here. We have two base-level types of people using LRP: 1. People who want to have a firewall/router that will let them share IP addresses and don't want to spend

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-23 Thread Scott C. Best
George: Sorry for the late reply... Time to do some good old-fashioned market classification here. We have two base-level types of people using LRP: 1. People who want to have a firewall/router that will let them share IP addresses and don't want to spend the money on a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-22 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Any thoughts or ideas? I'm thinking that trimming the fat off of this stuff, combined with UPX, might be enough for us to go glibc 2.1.x or even 2.2.x for base router images. At least then, it would be easier to transition from the basics to the fun stuff. I think glibc 2.1.x or 2.2.x on a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-22 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Any thoughts or ideas? I'm thinking that trimming the fat off of this stuff, combined with UPX, might be enough for us to go glibc 2.1.x or even 2.2.x for base router images. At least then, it would be easier to transition from the basics to the fun stuff. I

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
It'd be interesting to see how much each option affected size, but overall a 411K 2.4 kernel is VERY COOL, and should be quite usable for floppy firewalls. While I'd like to see a 'one size fits all' kernel, perhaps there could be a floppy only, minimal kernel, and a larger kernel with

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Well, I generall think almost EVERYTHING should be modules. You can regain IDE support for booting by adding the modules to the initial ramdisk (the linuxrc mods I posted a while ago for my SCSI-RAID support do this). When I first compiled kernels for LRP, I used

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote: When I first compiled kernels for LRP, I used the EigerStein kernel as my base. I later found that by NOT compiling modules, I could save space let me explain. Okay. Not that I can stop you in an e-mail. =) If there is an item in the kernel

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Well, I generall think almost EVERYTHING should be modules. You can regain IDE support for booting by adding the modules to the initial ramdisk (the linuxrc mods I posted a while ago for my SCSI-RAID support do this). Yeah, Oxygen does the

RE: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread Hilton Travis
sleep less and play more, but I may take some convincing on that. Regards, Hilton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:leaf-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of George Metz Sent: Friday, 20 April 2001 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Okay gang, got the FTP security patch from the Netfilter boys and applied it. Kernel is compiled and I'm about to tar and gzip it. I also took the opportunity to go weeding. The final result is as follows: 1. Kernel is no longer able to mount filesystem images on the loopback device.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread David Douthitt
George Metz wrote: The final result is as follows: 1. Kernel is no longer able to mount filesystem images on the loopback device. This is something that Oxygen takes advantage of quite a bit; it's not required, but even in the boot process it can be used as desired. Oxygen has the

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread Jack Coates
I would definitely put serial back in for those of us who use serial console. Everything else looks like a good idea. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, George Metz wrote: Okay gang, got the FTP security patch from the Netfilter boys and applied it.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread George Metz
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: 1. Kernel is no longer able to mount filesystem images on the loopback device. This seems like a bad thing, but it is probably tolerable. Why not make the loopback device a module? Note that a loopback device or a spare ramdisk will