Re: [LEAPSECS] leap second festivities?

2015-06-30 Thread Mark Calabretta
Hi Tom, Your nixie clock got to 23:59:60 and then started counting backwards! It still is, and it counts backwards through 60 in the seconds field, skipping 01 - currently at 2015.06.30 23:49:60. See the video clip I sent you last time. Maybe it's a southern hemisphere thing. Regards, Mark

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Mark Calabretta
the SOFA home page where the latest release is dated 2014-10-07. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com https://pairlist6.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] Lets get REAL about time.

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Tue 2012/01/24 07:18:36 -0800, Steve Allen wrote in a message to: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com The ones with WWVB receivers in them do a little dance every night when nobody is watching and the signal is strong, and that dance looks a lot like the handling of a leap

Re: [LEAPSECS] Lets get REAL about time.

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Tue 2012/01/24 08:22:41 -, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote in a message to: Mark Calabretta mcala...@atnf.csiro.au and copied to: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com int tmdiff(const struct tm *tm1, const struct tm *tm2, double *diff); Return the time interval, *tm2 - *tm1

Re: [LEAPSECS] Lets get REAL about time.

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Tue 2012/01/24 16:23:17 PDT, Warner Losh wrote in a message to: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com In the latter, the second hand would move continuously past 60 to 01 second and immediately flick back to 60, thus making it possible to reckon time during a leap second. Or

Re: [LEAPSECS] real time ?

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Tue 2012/01/24 16:53:37 PDT, Rob Seaman wrote in a message to: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com Might I suggest that real is a poor descriptor here (no philosophy intended)? There is a vast prior art of real time that means something entirely different. In addition, there

Re: [LEAPSECS] Lets get REAL about time.

2012-01-23 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Mon 2012/01/23 08:05:15 -, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote in a message to: Mark Calabretta mcala...@atnf.csiro.au and copied to: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com, Keith Winstein kei...@mit.edu So effectively what is needed is a function to subtract two tm structs. You

Re: [LEAPSECS] The ends we seek

2012-01-20 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Fri 2012/01/20 07:50:47 -, michael.deckers wrote in a message to: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com existence. Is it any wonder that leap seconds may not have been implemented properly? Can you point us to an implementation that does it properly? Try Tom's

Re: [LEAPSECS] Lets get REAL about time.

2012-01-20 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Fri 2012/01/20 11:29:18 -, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote in a message to: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com I would like your comments on this API proposal, if we can agree that it workable, I am willing to push it, hard, in the UNIX world. This ticks all the right boxes for

Re: [LEAPSECS] ITU video interview

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Calabretta
picked up that glaring error. Approximately one hour after 600 years is the canonical figure. Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] The ends we seek

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Calabretta
to know better, seem not to be aware of it. Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] Leap seconds decision deferred until 2015

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Calabretta
be a bit better explored. Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] The ends we seek

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Calabretta
. Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] The ends we seek

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Thu 2012/01/19 20:54:52 -0800, Tom Van Baak wrote in a message to: Leap Second Discussion List leapsecs@leapsecond.com Welcome back to the list. It's been a while. I have to admit to lurking, though usually take shelter during the cyclone season, except this season was too hard to ignore for

Re: [LEAPSECS] What's the point?

2011-02-16 Thread Mark Calabretta
seconds. If anyone were to make that argument. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] Crunching Bulletin B numbers

2011-02-16 Thread Mark Calabretta
including deceleration), which seems much preferable to letting it grow without limit. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] What's the point?

2011-02-14 Thread Mark Calabretta
, it is a specious argument that should be rejected. The solution, in the distant future when it does start to bite, will be to measure the length of day properly - finally admit that there are more than 86400 SI seconds in it. Regards, Mark Calabretta

Re: [LEAPSECS] Nit-pick: SI second

2011-02-10 Thread Mark Calabretta
effect of Special Relativity. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] Nit-pick: SI second

2011-02-10 Thread Mark Calabretta
or the sidereal day of 23 hours, 56 minutes. Heartfelt thanks to the Association for Biblical Astronomy for a light-hearted interlude. ...I wonder what they make of the CMB dipole anisotropy? Or Foucault's pendulum. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing

Re: [LEAPSECS] Nit-pick: SI second

2011-02-10 Thread Mark Calabretta
/Proper_time as well as Rob's references. I think someone already mentioned that GPS satellites correct for time dilation, though their orbital velocities make for a much larger correction. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS

Re: [LEAPSECS] one second tolerance

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Calabretta
seconds would seem to be asking for trouble so far as interpreting historical timestamps is concerned. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] one second tolerance

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Calabretta
attitude at the refinery or oil rig. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] one second tolerance

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Calabretta
round. Whatever the timezone in London is in July, one thing it certainly _isn't_ is GMT. They mean clock on the wall time in places where the civil time is UTC or UT1 during the winter. Extra fun will Microsoft gets it wrong? Never! Surely it must be user error. Regards, Mark Calabretta

Re: [LEAPSECS] What's the point?

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Calabretta
for immediately changing UTC, would it be too much to expect that its replacement actually solve the problem rather than simply delay it? Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: [LEAPSECS] What's the point?

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Calabretta
level of chaos, one that will eventually lead to multi-hour offsets that continue to grow over time. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] one second tolerance

2011-02-08 Thread Mark Calabretta
. Not if the timestamps are properly labelled with the timezone, preferably specified as an offset, which distinguishes between DST and non-DST. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] Mean ... Orbits

2011-02-03 Thread Mark Calabretta
the equation of time (and the obliquity of the ecliptic). http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap101231.html http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap061230.html (Mars) http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap050713.html (Moon) Check out the last two particularly. Regards, Mark Calabretta

Re: [LEAPSECS] Meeting with Wayne Whyte

2011-02-01 Thread Mark Calabretta
if you correctly predict the date of the next leap second, and you give me $850 if I predict the date of the next leap day. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] tinkering with time ?

2011-02-01 Thread Mark Calabretta
. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] Meeting with Wayne Whyte

2011-02-01 Thread Mark Calabretta
. And anyone who cannot see a pythonesque dialogue in this needs a humour-transplantation: Would you care to speculate on what the Pythons might have made of the long-term unpredictability of the Gregorian calendar itself? Regards, Mark Calabretta

Re: [LEAPSECS] Meeting with Wayne Whyte

2011-02-01 Thread Mark Calabretta
face is another problem, again not fundamental - solutions can be found. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] tinkering with time ?

2011-02-01 Thread Mark Calabretta
calendar will no longer accurately reflect the ratio between the length of the year and the length of the day. Agreed. Which is to say that that the quadratic blow out in leap seconds is a specious argument which should be rejected. Regards, Mark Calabretta

Re: [LEAPSECS] Meeting with Wayne Whyte

2011-02-01 Thread Mark Calabretta
, as we used to say, this is just an implementation detail. Someone does it, and everyone else uses it. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] tinkering with time ?

2011-01-31 Thread Mark Calabretta
reductio ad absurdum result of a leap-second-per-day, should hopefully cause a re-examination of this convenient untruth. However, it is a very distant horizon. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http

Re: [LEAPSECS] Meeting with Wayne Whyte

2011-01-31 Thread Mark Calabretta
of calendar date to Julian Date. The fundamental problem is that there is no formula for determining when leap seconds occur. Regards, Mark Calabretta ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

Re: [LEAPSECS] An example

2010-11-02 Thread Mark Calabretta
than what ITU-R are offering - though it wouldn't have the political clout to implement it. Mark Calabretta ATNF ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs

[LEAPSECS] Seems relevant somehow

2008-03-30 Thread Mark Calabretta
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