Re: [LegacyUG] Vista and V 7 and new computer - any helpful comments please ?

2008-08-15 Thread Kris
I battled Vista for over a year. Finally, a couple of weeks ago, I found a computer with XP installed and I am happy, happy, happy. That said, Legacy (v.6 and v.7) worked just fine. Valerie Garton wrote: I am about to buy a light weight laptop - any suggestions I have been trying to avoid

RE: [LegacyUG] Vista and V 7 and new computer - any helpful comments please ?

2008-08-15 Thread ronald ferguson
Valerie, Like you, recently I have had to make the same decision. I first had a look at what I really needed which was to run OpenOffice.org databases in which I store details from parish registers and a light copy of my genealogy files for reference only. Speed was not terribly important but

[LegacyUG] backing up Legacy from the keyboard

2008-08-15 Thread JLB
To the person who was looking a few days ago for a way to back up Legacy from the keyboard with less than 8 or 10 clicks, there's a program called Qliner Hotkeys at http://www.qliner.com/hotkeys/ that is designed to allow the entire Windows keyboard to be programmed to files, folders, web

Re: [LegacyUG] Vista and V 7 and new computer - any helpful comments please ?

2008-08-15 Thread MJMethod
Zero problems with L7 and Vista. And Vista itself is fine, very stable (unlike a couple years ago when it debuted). And the Vista replacement (it is being referred to as Windows 7) won't be available until at least 2010 and probably much later. Re: V7: Just follow the

[LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume Page Number

2008-08-15 Thread Syble Glasscock
I want the Volume page number to print out on reports, not just on the source.  The only solution I've found is to make a marriage event including the Vol. pg number, I also include the recorded date and officiator when I have it.   It looks like it would be so simple to have a space for this

[LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am curious as to which Legacy narrative/book reports are most used as generated by Legacy or found to be most useable by experienced Legacy users. Do any users print these narratives as created, or are these raw reports usually transferred to a word processor where they are extensively

Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume Page Number

2008-08-15 Thread MJMethod
I wouldn't consider it an event. My choice would be to put that in the Marriage Notes. Mike Michael J Method family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley In a message dated 8/15/2008 8:31:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want the

Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume Page Number

2008-08-15 Thread Jenny M Benson
Syble Glasscock wrote I want the Volume page number to print out on reports, not just on the source.  The only solution I've found is to make a marriage event including the Vol. pg number, I also include the recorded date and officiator when I have it.   It looks like it would be so simple

RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume Page Number

2008-08-15 Thread ronald ferguson
Syble, I cannot see how one can describe the volume and page numbers as part of an event. They are details from an index to the source document identifying the location of the source. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures

RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume Page Number

2008-08-15 Thread ronald ferguson
Syble, I cannot see how one can describe the volume and page numbers as part of an event. They are details from an index to the source document identifying the location of the source. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:37:53 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ask because many of the legacy created sentences read so awkwardly (no fault of Legacy, a computer generated text can only do so much) that I wonder if it is really useful to take the time to create alternative

Re: [LegacyUG] Portable genealogy

2008-08-15 Thread aplebary
Sorry if this question has been addressed before. Will Legacy and Pocket PC work on an iphone? I tried to find the answer on Legacy's website (since they sell Pocket PC) but could not find the answer. Pati Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

RE: [LegacyUG] Portable genealogy

2008-08-15 Thread KevinRPhillips
Pati, No. There is only one program out for the iPhone and it looks like it really needs the corresponding MacIntosh software (MacFamilyTree) to use it properly. (And it seems very simplistic as well, nothing near as sophisticated as GEDStar or Pocket Genealogist) http://www.synium.de Kevin

RE: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread Cary
I create ancestor Descendant reports frequently for various cousins, and use the PDF's as is from Legacy (including doing any necessary editing in Legacy) for two reasons. First, the RTF comes out not looking nicely formatted like the PDF, and it's a lot of work to resize pictures for

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
Jeff, I was primarily using the Narrative Book Report but have switched to the Register Book Report for now, due to formatting issues when including photos in my reports. I'm in the process of moving material previously entered into notes into an event I also call notes. If it is a long

Re: [LegacyUG] Portable genealogy

2008-08-15 Thread Gene Young
aplebary wrote: Sorry if this question has been addressed before. Will Legacy and Pocket PC work on an iphone? I tried to find the answer on Legacy's website (since they sell Pocket PC) but could not find the answer. Pocket PC is a device. Pocket Genealogist is the program and it runs on

[LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Marilyn Streeter
Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead of their first given name. I have shown that the second name was the one they used by putting the second name in capitals. However my problem arises when printing out reports is that the first given name is always

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread Janis L Gilmore
On 8/15/08 8:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious as to which Legacy narrative/book reports are most used as generated by Legacy or found to be most useable by experienced Legacy users. Do any users print these narratives as created, or are these raw reports

Re: [LegacyUG] Portable genealogy

2008-08-15 Thread aplebary
Thanks Kevin, I guess I will have to look into another device since I prefer Legacy to any other program. I am planning a trip this fall and want to take my Legacy database with me. I have a laptop but it would be so much easier with a small device. I am not sure though that I would want

RE: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Jeff: I agree that in any narrative report (from any genealogy software program) the language is going to be stilted, repetitive, and fairly boring. Professional genealogists and history writers use software for recording facts and then convert those to narratives written from scratch. I do use

RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

2008-08-15 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Dave and I met about this yesterday and have some ideas. First of all, one of our great challenges when developing the SourceWriter was to ensure that no information is lost when sharing via GEDCOM. Because the GEDCOM standard does not have specific fields for the specific SourceWriter fields,

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread JLB
I haven't learned how to do sentences in Legacy which would probably help the readability of book reports. It's pretty dry and choppy otherwise. In any case, I'm doing somewhat similar to this person in writing my own narratives for publication but using a wiki, and only using charts for

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread John Carter
Put the preferred name in double quotes in the individual entry and check the box for Use Quoted in the report options. I don't remember whether you can do this in all reports. I have not tried it in the charts. John Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name

Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

2008-08-15 Thread Gail Nestor
Hi Geoff, that sounds wonderful to me!! I would be glad to be a tester for this if you have need for that kind of help. Also, there is another guy who uses Legacy and TNG and who is also a good programmer (better than I am anyway!). He said he would work with me on the TNG end to see if we

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread MJMethod
That's what the Nickname capability is for, in quotes (e.g., James Robert Bobbie Smith). Mike Michael J Method family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley In a message dated 8/15/2008 1:18:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Jenny M Benson
Marilyn Streeter wrote Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead of their first given name. I have shown that the second name was the one they used by putting the second name in capitals. However my problem arises when printing out reports is that the

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you Kristen. I am coming to the same conclusion. When thinking of future descendents - isn't that why some of us do this? - I cannot imagine them going through Legacy to find information or reading through a Legacy prepared book. Of course printed trees are always crowd favorites and

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Janis L Gilmore
Marilyn, I believe if you insert the name that is really used in quotes, Legacy should pick up that name and use it in narratives after the first time. For instance: Mary Caroline Molly Walker My husband also uses his middle name - in his case it would be: George Calvin Calvin Gilmore Janis

RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Cary
If you use quotes instead of capitals you can have the preferred name in reports. So Alpha Beta Beta Jones, or Albert Bert Smith will show as Beta and Bert. Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn Streeter Sent:

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread Cathy
Jeff, Whenever I email copies of my research to relatives, I send them a Descendant Modified Register Report because it is easy for them to read. About two years ago at a family reunion, I put together a booklet containing a Descendant Modified Register Report, a Pedigree Chart, and a Family

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
Put David between quotes. That does the trick. You can find this also in the Help. Bert - Original Message - From: Marilyn Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in

RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Margaret Couch
Marilyn I'm including the relevant bits from the Help screens. In my case it means my name looks like this on the data entry screens: Pamela Margaret Margaret Pegler. From the Help screens: You can enter a familiar name as part of the given names by enclosing it in quotes. For example, Margaret

RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

2008-08-15 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Jenny, I'm not sure. If this were possible, the entire citation that you create using the override option would all belong to the detail instead of a master source. And there has to first be a master source. An interesting suggestion that we can discuss. Thank you. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen

[LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Steve Ehrler
I could use some suggestions on how to document the repository for census information I obtained from a specific library. I did go through the archive messages and reviewed the recommendations for census, master sources and details but still can't figure out what to do. FYI, I have

Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

2008-08-15 Thread Jessica Morgan
Geoff, that sounds like a very well thought out and effective way to correct the issue of the export. Well done. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave and I met about this yesterday and have some ideas. First of all, one of our great challenges

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Janis L Gilmore
Does the middle name get picked up as the usage name for narratives if it isn't repeated? It seems silly (as in my example below) to write: George Calvin Calvin Gilmore Does it work if you just write: George Calvin Gilmore Doesn't the latter imply that Calvin is a nickname, rather than a middle

RE: [LegacyUG] Portable genealogy

2008-08-15 Thread KevinRPhillips
Pati, You do have the option of setting the Pocket Genealogist database to Read Only so you don't accidentally make a change. The 2-way syncing still works though, except there won't be any Legacy database changes on the device since it's marked read only, but any changes you make to your

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread Janis L Gilmore
I do think that reports make nice addendum to hand-crafted narratives. More or less as a reference that enables the reader to quickly look up a birth or death date, etc. Janis Walker Gilmore On 8/15/08 2:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: product, though they might supplement

RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Marilyn Streeter
Thank you all for the assistance. I have been using the double quotes but only for instances such as Sarah Margaret Marg Smith. When I use it for actually using the second given name, such as George Roland Roland Smith, it does pick up the second name but I really don't like the looks of the

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
Why do you need to record where you got federal census information? It is available in so many places. It's not like there is only an index, or maybe this is a state census, or something that isn't readily available. As you say, you've accessed this information in more than one place. Seems to

RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

2008-08-15 Thread Gene Wheeler
Geoff: That sounds like a great solution to me - especially if you have an option to export to TNG. Thanks for your efforts! Gene == At 11:56 AM 8/15/2008, you wrote: Dave and I met about this yesterday and have some ideas. First of all, one of our great challenges when developing

RE: [LegacyUG] Portable genealogy

2008-08-15 Thread KevinRPhillips
Gene, The iPhone doesn't use Windows Mobile so Pocket Genealogist won't work. (Nor will GEDStar which uses the Palm Operating System) And you are correct, Legacy won't run on Windows Mobile. Windows Mobile is very similar to big windows, but software has to be specifically written for Windows

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Excellent ideas. Thank you. Jeff - Original Message - From: Cathy To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports Jeff, Whenever I email copies of my research to relatives, I send them

Re: [LegacyUG] Portable genealogy

2008-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm using GedStar Pro with a Palm Treo cell phone. I'm finding that some of my SourceWriter details aren't converting properly. Everything else seems to work well, including my non-SourceWriter citations. John -- familyjesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anyone tell me whether they have used

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Elsie Saar
Personally I like the way the Germans do it in their church books, underline the name the person is called. Elsie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online

RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread ronald ferguson
Janis, If I remember correctly it does but also has the disavantage that you cannot remove it without losing a name. For example not only would George Calvin Gilmore use Calvin when referring to the person eg. Calvin married - no quotes. but would write George Calvin Gilmore born 25 Dec 1881

Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Jenny M Benson
Marilyn Streeter wrote Thank you all for the assistance. I have been using the double quotes but only for instances such as Sarah Margaret Marg Smith. When I use it for actually using the second given name, such as George Roland Roland Smith, it does pick up the second name but I really

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Jackie King
Elizabeth With the number of indexing errors I have found using the Ancestry census renditions, I do like to note those that I got from that particular source. (Not that other sources don't also have indexing errors - I just find Ancestry particularly egregious - especially in linking the

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Jenny M Benson
Steve Ehrler wrote I could use some suggestions on how to document the repository for census information I obtained from a specific library. I did go through the archive messages and reviewed the recommendations for census, master sources and details but still can't figure out what to do.

Re: [LegacyUG] Most used narrative reports

2008-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are correct. I was overwhelmed by the multitude of different reports available and focussed on the sentence structure problems. But looking further into the reports they are actually quite nice. Thank you all for your thoughts. Jeff Janis L Gilmore wrote: I do think that reports make

RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

2008-08-15 Thread Jennifer Crockett
Thank you Geoff and Dave! I use TNG for web publishing and up till now have abandoned using SourceWriter because of the output to gedcom and subsequent formatting of sources in TNG. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I have done the wrong thing, by choice, which is created a source which is the appropriate US govt. agency for the year in question, and in repository I have listed the federal 'roll numbers'; and Ancestry, LDS, and others as co-repositories. I decided that the 12+ different stake libraries in 2

[LegacyUG] Descendant Report output - Marriage Info Space missing between date and location

2008-08-15 Thread Jessica Morgan
Can anyone reproduce this? I just added a line of my tree with new information, and only one marriage had both the date and place. When I output a Descendant Report to email to the provider of data (for verification of data entry) I noticed that the date and place of marriage run together as show

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Pat Hickin
I use either HeritageQuest or Ancestry almost entirely. Sometimes, for one reason or another I occasionally use first one and then the other for the same census (for one reason or another). For example I have a Source List Name: 1850 Census-VA-Washington Co.-Dist 67-Anc and another entry as

RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume Page Number

2008-08-15 Thread Syble Glasscock
These are not from an index, they are from the original records at the county courthouse.  I like to create a timeline with my Events, but after thinking over this Vol. Pg. # issue, you're right, adding it to the marriage notes would get it into reports.  I don't add the sources to reports.

RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume Page Number

2008-08-15 Thread Syble Glasscock
These are not from an index, they are from the original records at the county courthouse.  I like to create a timeline with my Events, but after thinking over this Vol. Pg. # issue, you're right, adding it to the marriage notes would get it into reports.  I don't add the sources to reports.

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
If you were told the exact location of the census page, would you bother using an index? The index has nothing to do with your source if you are citing the exact image, not the index. Whether you accessed that image through Ancestry, the FHL, or NARA matters not. Elizabeth researching the

Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report output - Marriage Info Space missing between date and location

2008-08-15 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
Jessica, there is no space between the marriage date and place on a descendant report here either. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Jessica Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Melody B
I too am tidying up my sources. I am going with having duplicate master sources - one for each different repository and with an indication in the title which repository that master source references. For example, I am trying to keep digital copies of the census pages I reference. Therefore I am

Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report output - Marriage Info Space missing between date and location

2008-08-15 Thread Bruce Jones
Yes, I see it on multiple marriages I entered with a previous version of Legacy as well as a test marriage I just now entered. So I agree it is a bug. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Jessica Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone reproduce this? I just added a line of my tree with new

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Steve Ehrler
Thank you all for your perspective on the issue. Maybe I'm getting carried away with the guidance to be sure and document your repository so someone else can find it when the census are so easily found. Still, census may not be the only source I run into that warrant one master source

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Jackie King
Elizabeth, Elizabeth Unfortunately, because some of the images are attached to the wrong names on the index - and some have cut off tops, it is sometimes impossible to tell what image you have - and what roll it came from. You aren't certain that the numbers ancestry is giving you are

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
Jackie, I have hundreds of images from Ancestry, quite a few from Heritage, and even some paper copies from the FHL and NARA. The images from Ancestry, Heritage and the FHL are duplicates of the NARA films. Sometimes that transfer to digital wasn't as good as we might want, but it's still the

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Jackie King
Elizabeth - The problem with a couple of these counties is that I can't tell you with any certainty what ED or what Page they are on - which is why I have chosen to separate out the ancestry censuses. I can tell you in some of these counties that the ED and page number ancestry sources for

Re: [LegacyUG] Master source repository for census

2008-08-15 Thread Pauline B. Cramer
I wholeheartedly agree with Jacki about the egregious indexing errors found in Ancestry -having names in the index that in no way resemble what is found on the census image. It especially annoys me that you can only provide an alternative spelling, and note that it is a transcription

RE: [LegacyUG] Descendant Report output - Marriage Info Space missing between date and location

2008-08-15 Thread Sherry/Support
This problem has been resolved for the next update. I don't know when that will be - just keep an eye on the Updates section of the Legacy Home tab. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the

Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Records - Volume Page Number

2008-08-15 Thread Wynthner
All I can say is that if someone is not really into genealogy then they are *very* unlikely to get any type of report from me- lengthly or otherwise.. - Original Message From: Syble Glasscock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008