Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright status of OSM map data - publishable memo for USA

2011-12-08 Thread Ed Avis
I asked two attorneys in the USA to look into the question of whether the OSM map data falls under copyright. Please see earlier messages in this thread for details of how the lawyers were chosen and the question asked. They produced a written report which they asked me not to distribute

[OSM-legal-talk] Google Maps UK - some legal angles

2011-12-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
As posted on talk-gb, Google Maps appear to have switched to using their own data rather than Tele Atlas's in the UK this morning. This raises a couple of interesting points. Firstly, it seems pretty clear to me that some of the data is OS-derived (probably from OpenData or a commercial

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright status of OSM map data - publishable memo for USA

2011-12-08 Thread 80n
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I asked two attorneys in the USA to look into the question of whether the OSM map data falls under copyright. Please see earlier messages in this thread for details of how the lawyers were chosen and the question asked.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright status of OSM map data - publishable memo for USA

2011-12-08 Thread 80n
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:30 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: * Tracing from maps, and from GPS tracks, is most likely copyrightable. Although the GPS tracks are unlikely to be copyrightable. Oops, I meant to say: * Tracing from imagery, and from GPS tracks, is most likely copyrightable.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright status of OSM map data - publishable memo for USA

2011-12-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/08/2011 02:20 PM, Ed Avis wrote: They produced a written report I am intrigued by the joint authorship concept. If that was true (relatively) universally, then we could perhaps use that to force even those who haven't agreed to the license change to allow us (their co-authors) to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright status of OSM map data - publishable memo for USA

2011-12-08 Thread Simon Poole
Am 08.12.2011 15:46, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, On 12/08/2011 02:20 PM, Ed Avis wrote: They produced a written report I am intrigued by the joint authorship concept. If that was true (relatively) universally, then we could perhaps use that to force even those who haven't agreed to the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright status of OSM map data - publishable memo for USA

2011-12-08 Thread Ed Avis
Simon Poole simon@... writes: In summary I don't quite see how the report changes anything, summarized it states: a) maps are copyrightable in the US (not that we didn't know that) b) online maps are copyrightable in the US (we assumed that too) c) you could make a case that the underlying data