[OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform virtual survey

2014-04-07 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 02:38:07 +0200 From: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform virtualsurvey Message-ID:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform virtual survey

2014-04-07 Thread jonathan
This is obviously a legal grey area and until it ends up in court I suspect it will remain a grey area. However, I feel what IS black and white is that if we were to officially use Google StreetView or any non-open source to build our data then we should expect a lawsuit from Google or any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform virtual survey

2014-04-07 Thread Michael Collinson
I think the License Working Group would echo exactly what Jonathan says. While it does not solve the problem of being able to map where there are no mappers, may I also seize the opportunity to promote John McKerrell's excellent OpenStreetView? It is a great under-exploited tool!

[OSM-legal-talk] Community Guideline - Regional Cuts

2014-04-07 Thread Michael Collinson
Going back several years, Flickr started using OpenStreetMap as a base map for some but not all cities around the world. As a community, we were happy with that. But it does mean that we are saying the you publish a global map and have parts of it coming from OpenStreetMap without triggering

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform virtual survey

2014-04-07 Thread Simon Poole
Most has already been said on this topic. Just one comment on the, superficially sane sounding, idea of getting a declaratory judgement: forgetting the ethical side of it (do we really want to use data collected by somebody that doesn't want us to do so?), we would need such a judgement in -every-

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform virtual survey

2014-04-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 07/apr/2014 um 19:57 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: forgetting the ethical side of it (do we really want to use data collected by somebody that doesn't want us to do so?), from an ethical point of view you could also see it like this: as the information (geographic facts) in the

[OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform virtual survey

2014-04-07 Thread Paulo Carvalho
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