Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Imagery CC-BY-NC 4.0 + OSM Specific allowance

2017-04-25 Thread Kathleen Lu 
Hi Blake,
Sorry for dropping this thread. Which generic waiver exactly are you
referring to?
The purpose of these templates is for data providers who are concerned
about attribution being provided properly. It may be that some providers do
not care, in which case a less specific waiver may work.
Best,
Kathleen

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 9:49 PM Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Hi Simon, Kathleen, all,
>
> Is there any concern that the specific exemptions for cc-by 4 and some
> extent 2/3, which specifically mention the attribution method and URL,
> license and version number, will cause an issue should the means of
> OSM attribution or the license change (even a version number bump) in
> the future?
>
> I fear that as written, any changes to any of the above would make
> these exemptions non-valid anymore and data contributed under them
> could potentially be candidates for removal.
>
> The generic waiver seems better.
>
> It is not clear to me why there are different versions either if the
> generic waiver applies to the same cc-* licenses as the two version
> specific references.
>
> Cheers
> Blake
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:
> > Sorry this took so long, I've added suggested wording here
> >
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Waiver_and_Permission_Templates
> >
> > Thanks again to Kathleen Lu for drafting this.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > Am 23.01.2017 um 23:47 schrieb Simon Poole:
> >
> > The LWG has 3 US based legal professionals on it, no need for me to
> > climb out on a limb :-). I'll ask for an opinion internally and get back
> > to you.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > Am 23.01.2017 um 23:23 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM:
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:
> >
> > Blake where is the imagery provider in question based?
> >
> > United States
> >
> > Cheers
> > blake
> >
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > Am 23.01.2017 um 22:01 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM:
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:
> >
> > In any case, getting permission to distribute on ODbL terms only would
> > seem to be suboptimal and endangers any contributions based on so
> > licensed material as any license change, even in name only, would cause
> > issues that require going back to the licensor.
> >
> > Simon, can you give an example of language you think would be best for
> this?
> >
> > Something like:
> >
> > "Specific permission is granted to use this imagery for digitizing
> > data into OpenStreetMap and the resulting OpenStreetMap data to be be
> > released under the OSM project's license of choice."
> >
> > Is that what you have in mind?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Blake
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > Blake Girardot
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-04-25 Thread Kathleen Lu 
Hi Dan,
The English version, at least, appears less restrictive than CC BY 4.0, and
closer to the Canada Open Government License. The license is not specific
as to the type of attribution required.
The conservative route, is, as Frederik said, to ask the agency if
attribution on the osm.org/copyright webpage is acceptable. If it is, then
I see no other barriers to using the data.  You might also ask the opinion
of the Licensing Working Group at legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org
Best,
Kathleen

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:34 AM Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 04/25/2017 01:38 AM, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > What do you folks think about
> > http://data.gov.tw/license#eng ?
> > Can we use that data?
>
> Not without further clarification. The way in which we would use the
> data could be seen as violating their 3.2: "[The user] must make an
> explicit notice of statement as attribution requested in the Exhibit
> below by the Data Providing Organization". We *can* make such an
> explicit notice on our osm.org/copyright page but we cannot ensure that
> anyone who downloads our data or who looks at our map sees that notice.
> We have to ask them if that kind of notice is enough.
>
> This is a similar issue as we always have with CC-BY licensed data.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-04-25 Thread Frederik Ramm 
Hi,

On 04/25/2017 01:38 AM, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote:
> What do you folks think about
> http://data.gov.tw/license#eng ?
> Can we use that data?

Not without further clarification. The way in which we would use the
data could be seen as violating their 3.2: "[The user] must make an
explicit notice of statement as attribution requested in the Exhibit
below by the Data Providing Organization". We *can* make such an
explicit notice on our osm.org/copyright page but we cannot ensure that
anyone who downloads our data or who looks at our map sees that notice.
We have to ask them if that kind of notice is enough.

This is a similar issue as we always have with CC-BY licensed data.

Bye
Frederik

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