Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Breaking up is hard to do (was New Logo in the Wiki)

2011-05-06 Thread Russ Nelson
Russ Nelson writes: I just want to map; And as RichardF pointed out on IRC, if that's REALLY what I want, then I ought to STFU, and leave the worrying to other people since I have enough things to worry about, like whether my local 6 to the pixel imagery is good enough (eat my dust!), I'm going

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Breaking up is hard to do (was New Logo in the Wiki)

2011-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
Frederik Ramm writes: On 05/05/11 06:27, Russ Nelson wrote: I'm wondering on what data you come to that conclusion? Because people have clicked ok on the license change and CTs? And yet there is no agreement and no contract. The OSMF has made it clear: you agree, or we delete your

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] US Rails to Trails database

2011-03-05 Thread Russ Nelson
Richard Masoner writes: I asked Rails to Trails about licensing their data to OSM and they say they've been thinking about it and asked me to put them in touch with somebody official at OSM. They also indicated they would like some kind of attribution where their data is used.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-19 Thread Russ Nelson
Dave F. writes: On 06/12/2010 09:55, Frederik Ramm wrote: The situation is sufficient for me to use Bing imagery for tracing. I'm not looking at the legal side of it, I'm just looking at the size of the PR disaster should Microsoft attempt to backtrack in any way. PR is more

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] PD declaration non binding?

2010-08-08 Thread Russ Nelson
Andy Allan writes: Never mind what Richard says, there's also some other points 1) You can't actually put anything into the public domain in most jurisdictions. The best you can do yourself is use a special license, such as CC0, which achieves similar results, but strictly isn't the same

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

2010-08-08 Thread Russ Nelson
SteveC writes: As in, why is the PD camp so loud here? First and foremost, because we believe that all the licensing kerfluffle will frighten people away from using the map. Because we all want a map that will actually be USED by the most people possible. Because we aren't afraid of forks

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License for OSM logo

2009-07-07 Thread Russ Nelson
modifications for our (OSI) trademark (the green keyhole). I expect that the OSMF would get the same permission. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-04 Thread Russ Nelson
. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jul 2, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Nonetheless if the OSM community wants a share-alike license, it has to use this sort of language. Indeed. Consider what you would say if a lawyer looked at a program and said Why do we need all this codese? -- Russ Nelson - http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-06-26 Thread Russ Nelson
%20forester%20helmet%20safetypg=PA24 On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: Do you wear a helmet when you ride a bicycle? Accidents resulting in TBI are very uncommon, but their consequences are very high and a helmet will protect you from many of those consequences

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-06-25 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Russ Nelson wrote: Some of the stuff is there to make sure that we have the right to redistribute contributions to OSM. This is important and useful. I was under the impression that these terms did not have anything to do with our

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-06-24 Thread Russ Nelson
provides services in the USA. It can say to the judge we don't operate in the US; this person has no opportunity to sue us, but who knows what might happen in the future? Maybe one of the principals of the OSMF might fly through the US, or move to the US, or start a US company. -- Russ Nelson

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Aerial photography, cock fighting and vodka bottles

2009-06-07 Thread Russ Nelson
; Terraservice Urban http://terraservice.net/ogcmap.ashx?version=1.1.1request=GetMapLayers=urbanareaStyles=SRS=EPSG:4326format=image/jpeg; -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] signup notice

2009-06-01 Thread Russ Nelson
, the judge would laugh the OSMF out of court, IF he didn't fine the OSMF for contempt of court. In order for a contract to be enforceable it must be a reasonable contract. On Jun 1, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Francis Davey wrote: 2009/6/1 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com: Note the (non-exclusively

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, choice of law, and porting (and why ODC won't have a porting process)

2009-05-26 Thread Russ Nelson
know if the licenses were ported or translated (following your use of those two terms), but the goal was to have licenses which may be read and trusted to be legally accurate no matter where you are in the EU. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Russ Nelson
country, an entire theme (e.g. everything tagged with cycleway). -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal review by ITO World's lawyer

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 14, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Peter Miller wrote: the viral nature of these licenses I don't want a virus, but I like the reciprocal nature of these licenses. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
problems. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 15, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Simon Ward wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 08:26:14PM -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: why are we bothering with switching OSM to 1.0 at all? Why not just wait for the 1.1 fixed version? 1) Because ODbL 1.0 is better

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License to kill

2009-03-05 Thread Russ Nelson
specific needs in mind, so if the first published version doesn't meet our needs, we can go back to the well and ask for a revision. But until the ODbL is finished, we're spinning our wheels. Can we assume that the lawyers understand the problem and are working on a solution? -- Russ Nelson

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.

2009-03-01 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: Russ Nelson schrieb: [...], or your email address stops working, you waive all right to ownership of your edits. Probably about as legally binding as posting a note on the site that says By reading this you agree to sacrifice your

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A simplification of the agreement on the signup page.

2009-03-01 Thread Russ Nelson
I see your point. Data potentially infringing if removed now could be recreated now, making later bookkeeping easier. On Mar 1, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Russ Nelson wrote: I don't see much value in removing the data now on the chance that we might have to remove

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Okay to trace from public-domain USGS DOQs?

2009-02-11 Thread Russ Nelson
* the public domain merely because you claim that you have a copyright on it. You only have a copyright on your creative works; not the public domain. I may be wrong; I'm not a lawyer; this isn't legal advice. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki