Re: [liberationtech] Who Runs Prism...

2013-06-08 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That is interesting. Presumably by sheer coincidence, the docs.palantir.com sub-domain is not available, but thanks to Google cache, you can see the two URLs posted in that article here:

Re: [liberationtech] Google Denies PRISM Involvement

2013-06-08 Thread Rich Kulawiec
(Quoting myself from something I just sent to NANOG in re the same question: are the Cxx people at Google and elsewhere telling the truth?) *puts on evil hat, adjusts for snug fit* Targeting the technical people who actually have their hands on the gear might be the best choice. They don't

Re: [liberationtech] Crypho

2013-06-08 Thread Mike Perry
zooko: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 09:24:13AM +0100, Yiorgis Gozadinos wrote: Assuming there is a point of reference for js code, some published instance of the code, that can be audited and verified by others that it does not leak. The point then becomes: Is the js I am running in my

Re: [liberationtech] Cell phone tracking

2013-06-08 Thread Pavol Luptak
Some information yoy may consider to be interesting: 1. It is possible to buy completely anonymous SIM cards (with data roaming that works everywhere in Europe including the UK) in Czech Republic. For 1.2 GB roaming data it costs about 800 Kc (31 €) monthly. I've already activated it for some of

[liberationtech] FW: [IP] Tech Companies Concede to Surveillance Program - NYTimes.com

2013-06-08 Thread michael gurstein
-Original Message- From: David Farber [mailto:d...@farber.net] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 7:30 AM To: ip Subject: [IP] Tech Companies Concede to Surveillance Program - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/technology/tech-companies-bristling-conced

Re: [liberationtech] Google Denies PRISM Involvement

2013-06-08 Thread Tom Ritter
On 7 June 2013 18:51, Travis McCrea m...@travismccrea.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/06/what.html I do believe them, but I have no proof to back that up. You would assume they wouldn't make a bold faced lie, they would just not

[liberationtech] Building a encrypted mobile network

2013-06-08 Thread Anthony Papillion
Hi Liberation Tech! With the NSA spying scandal in full swing, I've been thinking about what it would take to truly build a secure mobile network. I'm curious to get feedback from those who've given more thought to this than me as I see the problem as primarily twofold: 1. Location issues - they

Re: [liberationtech] Airline Shutdown Because of Loss of Internet Service?

2013-06-08 Thread Kyle Maxwell
How are the two concepts related? On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:42 PM, michael gurstein gurst...@gmail.com wrote: Is this kind of event an argument against net neutrality? M From: liberationtech-boun...@lists.stanford.edu [mailto:liberationtech-boun...@lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Andrés

[liberationtech] [Meta] Mailman to /r/LiberationTech Subreddit bot

2013-06-08 Thread Travis McCrea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I have been considering establishing a /r/LiberationTech subreddit, and then building a bot which would submit new threads on the website for each new topic that was created here on the mailing list. Pros: Gives people who use reddit, don't like

Re: [liberationtech] Secure tools for communications - Is there a wiki ..?

2013-06-08 Thread Robert Guerra
Having an aggregated list, with clear caveats of course, might be helpful given the recent news about the NSA surveillance programs. I know of the following wiki that was setup a while ago to aggregate and list secure voice over IP (VoIP) alternative to skype. Are there others say for email,

[liberationtech] Want to shield text, photos from government? Wickr says it has an app for that | SiliconBeat

2013-06-08 Thread Yosem Companys
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2013/06/07/want-to-shield-text-photos-from-government-wickr-says-it-has-an-app-for-that/ The U.S. government has acknowledged — with President Obama saying this morning in San Jose that it’s all in the name of

[liberationtech] What happens when the government is allowed to spy on you?

2013-06-08 Thread aestetix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is a post on reddit*, which the author, 161719, has written for the public domain. Take it as you please, but I feel that it's very eye-opening: I live in a country generally assumed to be a dictatorship. One of the Arab spring countries. I have

Re: [liberationtech] Want to shield text, photos from government? Wickr says it has an app for that | SiliconBeat

2013-06-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu To: Liberation Technologies liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:22 PM Subject: [liberationtech] Want to shield text, photos from government? Wickr says it has an app for that |

Re: [liberationtech] Want to shield text, photos from government? Wickr says it has an app for that | SiliconBeat

2013-06-08 Thread Griffin Boyce
Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: we're supposed to discuss proprietary software not only as secure, but as military-grade and government-proof. It's kind of ironic that so many apps refer to themselves as military-grade, when the intelligentsia on this list has better security than

Re: [liberationtech] Want to shield text, photos from government? Wickr says it has an app for that | SiliconBeat

2013-06-08 Thread Rich Kulawiec
It's not open-source, therefore it not only *can* be discarded without any further discussion, it MUST be. ---rsk -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at

Re: [liberationtech] Want to shield text, photos from government? Wickr says it has an app for that | SiliconBeat

2013-06-08 Thread Collin Anderson
Can we just not? Wickr's PR is pretty adept at taking advantage of opportunities and Libtech bites every time. http://i.imgur.com/a5KVZzG.png On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: It's not open-source, therefore it not only *can* be discarded without any further

[liberationtech] Russia and PRISM?

2013-06-08 Thread Peter Bourgelais
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello again libtech, First, sorry for replying out of thread again, I have different settings on this email and it shouldn't happen again. Late last year, I heard about a data mining system in use by the Russian authorities called Prizma. Here are

Re: [liberationtech] Want to shield text, photos from government? Wickr says it has an app for that | SiliconBeat

2013-06-08 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
And you know Windows 3.1/NT/2000/XP is used in military for many year! -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu On Jun 8, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: It's kind of ironic that so many apps refer to themselves as military-grade, when the intelligentsia on this list has better

Re: [liberationtech] Want to shield text, photos from government? Wickr says it has an app for that | SiliconBeat

2013-06-08 Thread Griffin Boyce
Jerzy Łogiewa jerz...@interia.eu wrote: And you know Windows 3.1/NT/2000/XP is used in military for many year! After my OHM forensics talk was announced, the CIA (or someone using their IP range) visited my tumblr. They were using XP. This will never not be funny to me. :D ~Griffin [1]

[liberationtech] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

2013-06-08 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Oh man, Glenn Greenwald is my hero and a hero to us all. Everyone on this list who was looking for 'some evidence' about global surveillance and previously ignored all other evidence, well, here you go! Revealed: The NSA's powerful tool for cataloguing data – including figures on US collection

Re: [liberationtech] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

2013-06-08 Thread Nathan of Guardian
On 06/08/2013 09:35 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: This screenshot from the program is very web 2.0: http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/6/8/1370715185657/boundless-heatmap-large-001.jpg Just noticed this Map by Ammap.com in the screenshot http://www.ammap.com/ amMap is

[liberationtech] Fwd: Persona and Prism

2013-06-08 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While not as big a player in the identity area as others, below is Mozilla's Identity group response to a question about legal (or otherwise) requests. Begin forwarded message: From: Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com Date: 8 June 2013

[liberationtech] OSS Devs: Talk about metadata!

2013-06-08 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
I want to encourage all the open source, communication and security software developers on this list to start talking about metadata. 1. Start raising awareness on what metadata is given to your software and how it's handled. 2. Don't limit your privacy policy to content but also clarify what's

Re: [liberationtech] OSS Devs: Talk about metadata!

2013-06-08 Thread Griffin Boyce
Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: I want to encourage all the open source, communication and security software developers on this list to start talking about metadata. 1. Start raising awareness on what metadata is given to your software and how it's handled. 2. Don't limit your privacy

Re: [liberationtech] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

2013-06-08 Thread x z
2013/6/8 Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net Oh man, Glenn Greenwald is my hero and a hero to us all. Do you still believe Glenn's reporting that NSA has direct access to servers of firms including Google, Apple and Facebook? In my view, he misled the world intentionally (the few prism

Re: [liberationtech] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

2013-06-08 Thread Trevor Timm
From the Washington Post, just published: Intelligence community sources said that this description, although inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the experience of analysts at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the world, government employees cleared for PRISM access may

Re: [liberationtech] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

2013-06-08 Thread Andrew Lewis
I guess the question is still, is it just them using the already existing API's or do they have colocated sniffing tools? -Andrew On Jun 9, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Trevor Timm tre...@eff.org wrote: From the Washington Post, just published: Intelligence community sources said that this