Hi,
NSA just $20M of budget? The same NSA that is building a data center
(for processing what? =) for 869 million USD$ in Maryland?
From
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/exclusive_national_security_agency_whistleblower_william
WILLIAM BINNEY: Well, it was called Thin Thread. I mean,
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 12:32:10PM +1200, Andrew Lewis wrote:
PRISM isn't really even that illegal, as long as they discard communications
considered to be American.
So, as long as every TLA world wide does, and they all share the information,
everything is all right? Not so fast.
The NSA
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:23:03PM -0700, x z wrote:
What surprised me is how Guardian and Washington Post cover this story.
The Power Point slides looks laughable to me. Maybe I should interpret
direct access to servers of firms as like when I'm typing this email I am
also having *a direct
I tend to agree with this. Here are some things that look fishy about
this leak
* The $20 million budget seems paltry. Nothing gets done in government
for that small amount.
* The Powerpoint is amateurish (then again with no budget.)
* Everybody implicated is denying it (though I
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Well the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has defended
the program, not denied it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22809541
This is just circumstantial speculation but read
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/06/is_this_who_runs_prism.php
Given Palantir's rapid expansion and aggressive recruitment, I think this
guy might be onto something.
I suspect that what is being described in the slides is not direct
Hi all,
I have the same feeling with Raven's. It appears that the PRISM program
does exist, and that amateurish Power Point training material is real (so I
take back my ploy or prank remark). However, none of this proves
Guardian's headline claim NSA taps in to internet giants' systems to mine
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Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
WaPo:
On Jun 6, 2013 7:28 PM, Eduardo Robles Elvira edu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
NSA just $20M of budget? The same NSA that is building a data center
(for processing what? =) for 869 million USD$ in Maryland?
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Still that figures seems awfully small. For whats involved. I've seen telco
projects of a fraction the size of something like this costing £10M.
Unless they've managed to get the companies to foot the majority of the bill?
In that case, why would
It might be that PRISM is merely the end user tool for use by analysts at the
NSA, and that the actual gathering of info falls under another program
designation, with a much larger budget.
PRISM isn't really even that illegal, as long as they discard communications
considered to be American.
Of course, I was reading to fast and leaning to heavily on control+f.
Anyway, 20 million annually seems like a very low number by the usual
standards of efficiency in Department of Defense programs. But the NSA
might already have a data storage, processing and query architecture in
place that is
Where did you get the $20m budget number from? I can't find it in any of
the stories or attached materials. But I could be missing something.
On 6 June 2013 16:14, x z xhzh...@gmail.com wrote:
doesn't seem real to me. especially the part *direct access to servers*of
firms ..., and with an
What surprised me is how Guardian and Washington Post cover this story.
The Power Point slides looks laughable to me. Maybe I should interpret
direct access to servers of firms as like when I'm typing this email I am
also having *a direct access* to Gmail's servers.
This either a ploy by some
There seems to be some confirmation via this statement from the DNI:
http://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/191-press-releases-2013/869-dni-statement-on-activities-authorized-under-section-702-of-fisa
On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:23 PM, x z xhzh...@gmail.com wrote:
What surprised me is
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