Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-23 Thread Eleanor Saitta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013.01.23 01.09, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: OpenITP will sign. Put me down individually, too. E. - -- Ideas are my favorite toys. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-23 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Jochai Ben-Avie joc...@accessnow.orgwrote: and the basis for rejecting those requests it does not comply with. Jochai, Thanks for your helpful additions! NK -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at:

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-22 Thread Ophelia Noor
Hello Nadim, Can you add me as an individual, please. Thanks for the great work. Ophelia Noor On 21 January 2013 22:31, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: Everyone has been added, thank you! NK On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Fran Parker lilba...@gmail.com wrote: Can you add Fran

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-22 Thread Chip Pitts
I would also be pleased to sign as an individual. Chip Pitts From: liberationtech-boun...@lists.stanford.edu [mailto:liberationtech-boun...@lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Ophelia Noor Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:34 AM To: liberationtech Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-22 Thread Keith Hazelton
Nadim, Valuable and much appreciated work. Please add my name as an individual signatory. --Keith Hazelton On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review the following draft for our Open

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-22 Thread A.Cammozzo
Hi Nadim, Could you please add TagMeNot project TagMeNot.info to the organizations list. Best regards, Alberto Cammozzo -- Alberto Cammozzo founder, TagMeNot.info On 01/16/2013 05:58 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-22 Thread Grégoire Pouget
Reporters Without Borders will stay signed on. Good work ! Grégoire Pouget, New Media Desk | Bureau Nouveaux Médias GPG ID : 2BBC1ECE Tel : +33 1 44 83 84 71 Reporters Without Borders http://en.rsf.org | Reporters sans frontièreshttp://fr.rsf.org Twitter (en) https://twitter.com/fightcensors_en

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-22 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Alright everyone, the list has again been updated for today. Keep in mind that I am updating the list once every 24 hours. Deadline is Thursday! NK On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:53 AM, A.Cammozzo a.cammo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nadim, Could you please add TagMeNot project TagMeNot.info to the

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-22 Thread Greg Norcie
You can add my name. Greg Norcie - PhD Student, Privacy Researcher -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 1/16/13 11:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review the following draft for our Open Letter to Skype

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-21 Thread Fran Parker
Can you add Fran Parker as an individual please. Thanks. Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Added. Thank you! NK On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Martin Johnsongreatf...@greatfire.orgwrote: GreatFire.org would like to sign. Thanks very much for doing this. Martin Johnson Founder

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Okay everyone, the *final draft* has been posted online, with the gracious collaboration of the EFF. Please take a look at it, make sure you want to keep your signature there (or add it!) http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/ We'll be publishing next week. NK On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:29 AM,

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Sarah A. Downey
Looks good, Nadim. Abine will stay signed on (it's just Abine, not Abine Software, though). And I'd like to sign as an individual (Sarah A. Downey, Esq.). Thanks! -Sarah On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: Okay everyone, the *final draft* has been posted

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Sarah A. Downey sa...@getabine.comwrote: (Sarah A. Downey, Esq. Done! NK -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Good idea. I've added Bates's name as a recipient. NK On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Ryan Gallagher r...@rjgallagher.co.ukwrote: Good work, more concise than the previous version and something about the general tone of the thing has been improved. Might it be worth also publicly CCing

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Paul Bernal (LAW)
I like it - keep me on the letter. Many thanks for all your work. Paul Dr Paul Bernal Lecturer UEA Law School University of East Anglia Norwich Research Park Norwich NR4 7TJ email: paul.ber...@uea.ac.ukmailto:paul.ber...@uea.ac.uk Web: http://www.paulbernal.co.uk/ Blog:

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Christopher Soghoian
I speak with people regularly at Microsoft, including their CPO. It is my understanding that Microsoft's chief privacy officer doesn't have the power to do what you ask for. Scott Charney, the VP of Trustworthy Computing, will be much more central to any internal debates over this issue than

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Christopher Soghoian
I think your section on law enforcement stuff could still use some work. I really think you should get rid of some of the text in the references. Specifically, delete this text: As a result of the service being acquired by Microsoft in 2011, it may now be required to comply with CALEA due to the

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Chris, Your suggestions and references have been implemented. Thank you! NK On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Soghoian ch...@soghoian.netwrote: I think your section on law enforcement stuff could still use some work. I really think you should get rid of some of the text in the

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Petter Ericson
Hi! Good work :) First: some nitpicking: third-parties in the second paragraph should probably lose the hyphen. Second: I would be very happy to see a Telecomix signature on this letter :) Best regards /P On 18 January, 2013 - Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Okay everyone, the *final draft* has

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Amazing :) Thanks for your support, everyone! NK On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Petter Ericson pett...@acc.umu.se wrote: Hi! Good work :) First: some nitpicking: third-parties in the second paragraph should probably lose the hyphen. Second: I would be very happy to see a Telecomix

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Martin Johnson
GreatFire.org would like to sign. Thanks very much for doing this. Martin Johnson Founder https://GreatFire.org - Monitoring Online Censorship In China. https://FreeWeibo.com - Uncensored, Anonymous Sina Weibo Search. https://Unblock.cn.com - We Can Unblock Your Website In China. On Sat, Jan

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-18 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Added. Thank you! NK On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Martin Johnson greatf...@greatfire.orgwrote: GreatFire.org would like to sign. Thanks very much for doing this. Martin Johnson Founder https://GreatFire.org - Monitoring Online Censorship In China. https://FreeWeibo.com -

[liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review the following draft for our Open Letter to Skype and present your name or the name of your organization as signatories: http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/ The letter will be released soon. Feedback is also

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread x z
This is very well written!! One comment - given that the Tom-Skype operations mainly affect just Chinese users, I feel it makes sense to call out China explicitly in that sentence. Best, 2013/1/16 Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Allen Gunn
Hey Nadim, The letter looks great. Thanks for driving this. Please add Aspiration (www.aspirationtech.org) to the signatories peace, gunner On 01/16/2013 08:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review the following draft for

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Isaac Wilder
The Free Network Foundation will sign. As far a copy edits: voice communications software, Skype continues to be the first choice for many whose lives depend on strong communications privacy. Regretfully, Skype continues to ignore repeated, reasonable requests to clarify the basic principles of

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Do all signatories need to be affiliated/part of an organisation? On 16 Jan 2013, at 16:58, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review the following draft for our Open Letter to Skype

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Sarah A. Downey
Nice job. I'll sign as an individual and on behalf of Abinehttps://www.abine.com(we're an online privacy startup). -Sarah On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review the following draft

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Ryan Gallagher
On 16 January 2013 17:31, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: It's already open for individuals. Excellent, thanks Nadim. -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Bernal (LAW)
I'd like to sign too, if you'd like it! Paul Dr Paul Bernal Lecturer UEA Law School University of East Anglia Norwich Research Park Norwich NR4 7TJ email: paul.ber...@uea.ac.ukmailto:paul.ber...@uea.ac.uk Web: http://www.paulbernal.co.uk/ Blog: http://paulbernal.wordpress.com/ Twitter:

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Amin Sabeti
I'd like to sign it as well, if I am eligible :) Amin On 16 January 2013 17:58, Paul Bernal (LAW) paul.ber...@uea.ac.uk wrote: I'd like to sign too, if you'd like it! -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Nighat Dad
Digital Rights Foundation, Pakistan would like to sign the letter too. www.digitalrightsfoundation.pk Best, Nighat Dad On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Amin Sabeti aminsab...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to sign it as well, if I am eligible :) Amin On 16 January 2013 17:58, Paul Bernal (LAW)

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
(first post!) While CDT can't sign[1], I wanted to ask a question. (Since we can't sign on, I don't want you to feel like you have to answer!) I was wondering: why the focus on Skype and MSFT? If I were to answer my own question, I'd probably say the focus is simply due to the wide usage base

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall j...@cdt.org wrote: (first post!) While CDT can't sign[1], I wanted to ask a question. (Since we can't sign on, I don't want you to feel like you have to answer!) I was wondering: why the focus on Skype and MSFT? I must admit that your

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Collin Anderson
Joe, My experience has been that when a general letter is written with no particular recipient, it ends up being received and acted on by *no one*. Skype represents such a significant portion of the concern, even measured based on traffic to this list, that it warrants direct questions and

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Rich Kulawiec
Suggested changes (all near the beginning): Is: Many of these users rely on secure communications - whether they are activists operating under authoritarian governments or journalists dealing with sensitive sources. Suggest: Many of these users rely on secure communications - whether they are

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Sam de Silva
Hi NK and all, I'd like to make a suggestion about the letter itself, specifically the 'From' bit: From Concerned Privacy Advocates, Internet Activists and Journalists I'd suggest you go broader and make it from civil society organisations, Internet Activists and Journalists ... If the

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Lisa Brownlee
Well that is a job welldone Libtech amiga-os! Keep up the great work I look forward to seeing final. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote: Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review the following draft for our Open Letter to

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Christopher Soghoian
You may want to consider rewriting your law enforcement/government surveillance section: As a result of the service being acquired by Microsoft in 2011, it may now be required to comply with CALEA due to the company being headquartered in Redmond, Washington. Furthermore, as a US-based

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Thanks for your expert advice, Chris. We're currently in the process of reworking the letter with assistance from the EFF and we'll take what you said into consideration. NK On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Christopher Soghoian ch...@soghoian.netwrote: You may want to consider rewriting your

Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES

2013-01-16 Thread Michael H. Goldhaber
This is an excellent effort, but I would explain all acronyms within the body of the letter, as it is intended as an open letter on behalf of all Skype users, many of whom will be unable to grasp its import as is. Best, Michael Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Nadim Kobeissi