Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-08-01 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jillian, Maybe I was hasty in my commentary, but I have spent time reading so many we're sorry statements by companies that I've become slightly jaded. Blame South Park :) I also find it very difficult that NBC didn't initially understand the

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-08-01 Thread Jillian C. York
Hey y'all, *Simon* - I'm totally with you that Twitter's been leaps and bounds ahead of other companies in this space in terms of policy and transparency (and said as much to the

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-08-01 Thread Yosem Companys
*Bernard* - I get where you're coming from, I just do truly believe (and perhaps because I know and trust a lot of their staff) that Twitter is different. Their track record has been pretty great too - standing up for users in court, etc. (see: https://www.eff.org/pages/who-has-your-back/)

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-08-01 Thread Jillian C. York
*And this is something EFF could help with, by assisting young promising startups on their legal formation before they become the Googles, Facebooks, and Twitters of the world. * * * You're the second person to suggest that this week. I'll bring it up ;) On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Yosem

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-07-31 Thread Jillian C. York
Twitter has publicly apologized, though only for the fact that their employees notified NBC about the tweet: http://blog.twitter.com/2012/07/our-approach-to-trust-safety-and.html On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Lina Srivastava l...@linasrivastava.comwrote: Bernard, Even if NBC were claiming

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-07-31 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jillian, Thanks for explaining the details. Pardon my language but...FFS. This is disgraceful. Adams used publicly available information like this: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gary-zenkel/3/569/126 and Twitter closed his account? In which

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-07-31 Thread Jillian C. York
Bernard, 1. Not reading a post and then pontificating on assumptions is pretty lame. 2. EFF Legal is not on this, because Twitter is well within their legal rights to suspend a user for any reason. While I think that sucks, it is, in fact, the truth. 3. I very much hope that Twitter either

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-07-31 Thread Simon Phipps
Where is Zenkel's e-mail on that page? I've yet to see a report that substantiates it was easy to locate on the web prior to this incident. But more to the point, Twitter appears to be coming clean here. Their policy says a bona fides complaint is met with preventative suspension, followed by

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-07-31 Thread Jillian C. York
And just to be clear, Simon, this is where Zenkel's email address was found: http://www.fidei.org/2011/06/boycott-nbc-removed-under-god-from.html The post is fron June 2011, thus the information was indeed previously posted on the Internet before being put on Twitter. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-07-31 Thread Simon Phipps
Thanks for that pointer - it didn't come up in the searches I tried. While it would be fun to argue about whether mentioned on some nutjob's web site that Google doesn't list is a good definition of public, I think it misses my point. That point is I believe Twitter already has an adequate and

Re: [liberationtech] Independent UK Critic of NBC has Twitter account suspended after network complains

2012-07-31 Thread André Rebentisch
I would be the first person to complain if someone's free-speech was taken away, however, if Adams has said anything defamatory in his Twitter stream, then he is still bound by real world laws. Which laws are enforced here? A private complaint from a news provider and terms of service based