[Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Paul
I'm not one of them. I think the Constitution and Declaration are finest written documents ever made by mankind and the most libertarian documents ever written at the time. I don't think the Constitution is contradictory in the slightest to the Declaration. Quite the contrary; I think they are

[Libertarian] al

2005-08-22 Thread Deus Ex Machina
from the same site: http://billroggio.com/flashplayer.php?media=alqaedaw=640h=480 Deus Ex Machina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you havent seen it. http://billroggio.com/archives/2005/08/the_seven_phase.php I would trust iran with nukes about as much as you would trust jack the ripper

[Libertarian] Quarterly Ex-Com Report

2005-08-22 Thread Paul
This weekend, in California, we had our quarterly Executive Committee meeting. I wish I could say it went well. We had a lot to talk about since the LNC recently voted to bankrupt and eliminate the LNC by removing dues. We had 3 Iraqi war resolutions up for discussion, and we talked about

[Libertarian] InterNetPlayback: JOAN BAEZ More at Crawford TX Protest

2005-08-22 Thread Terry L Parker
Joan Baez, who gave voice to the anti-war protests of the 1960s and 1970s, was in Crawford Sunday evening to perform a free concert in support of the protest started by Cindy Sheehan of California. In the first march I went to (opposing Vietnam) there were 10 of us. This is huge, Baez said

Re: [Libertarian] Joyce Riley, another outnumbered American Hero?

2005-08-22 Thread Larry Lawson
Joyce Reilly is a FRAUD and a government PLANT making sure you get nice juicy 'tidbits' but are kept away from some very important CORE TRUTHS. Ask yourself how she and Alex Jones are able to address MILLIONS on George Noory while those advocating REAL PHYSICAL RESISTANCE to the globalists are

[Libertarian] Now This Is Funny....

2005-08-22 Thread Archimedes
I found this amusing and thought other Libertarians would enjoy this as well. Go to www.google.com. Type in the word failure. Then select the I'm Feeling Lucky button. Watch what appears. -- Marc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial

[Libertarian] Re: Now This Is Funny....

2005-08-22 Thread hrearden_hr
--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Archimedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this amusing and thought other Libertarians would enjoy this as well. Go to www.google.com. Type in the word failure. Then select the I'm Feeling Lucky button. Watch what appears. -- Marc I got a

[Libertarian] Help elect a libertarian caucus to the Vermont house.

2005-08-22 Thread Benjamin Todd
Hi, Vermont is a unique state for elections. We have full ballot access. We have the abitity to run under 2 or more parties (example: libertarian/republican). We have small districts where we can fully fund campaigns for $5000 and have more money then the major party candidates. We are trying to

Re: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Greg Southworth
I agree that the best bet appears to be the Republican Party. I wish those who wish to work within the Democratic Party the best. Interestingly, there may be a window of opportunity with the Dems now due to the generally dismal performance outside the Northeast, the West Coast and Upper

[Libertarian] [RRND] 08/22 - Iraq: Two Americans, 25 Iraqis killed as new constitution deadline looms

2005-08-22 Thread Terry L Parker
DistributorInsertion: www.LP.org Iraq Policy Statement Violates Party Platform see http://www.tx.lp.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22 National LP Chair Mike Dixon on Alan Colmes nationwide radio show with call-in from Terry Liberty Parker in response to which the Chair acknowledges that there is

[Libertarian] for four more years! at least! The U.S. Army is making plans keeping soldiers in Iraq

2005-08-22 Thread Rocky
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/20/us.troops.ap/index.html WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. Army is making plans to keep the current number of soldiers in Iraq -- well over 100,000 -- for four more years, the Army's top general said Saturday. In an Associated Press interview, Gen. Peter

[Libertarian] Salt Lake City Mayor calls for Bush Protest

2005-08-22 Thread hrearden_hr
I attempted to email the article linked below to this group but for some reason it did not get posted. Today George will talk to a veterans group in Salt Lake City and the mayor of Salt Lake City has called upon a protest. I have heard that he hopes the protest will be the biggest in Utah

[Libertarian] Re: meetings

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
I'm going to be in Austin this weekend with my friend Rick Ariazi, a visiting libertarian Republican from Michigan. Perhaps we'll stop by? --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Terry L Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does

[Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Greg, I might remind you that a significant number of libertarians are also Pro-War and subscribe precisely to the believe you express below that it is our duty as Americans to spread our beliefs in liberty and freedom worldwide. I am a passionate believer in that credo. I've never

[Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
You should check out the libertarian Republican movement. Check out Yahoo Libertarian Republican (a little wild, crazy and very open forum), Mainstrean libertarian or www.rlc.org. What State are you in? At this moment there are 5 to 6 United States Congressmen who have been elected as

[Libertarian] FreePlayback: hear JOAN BAEZ Sing More at Crawford Protest

2005-08-22 Thread Terry L Parker
Will sing for peace! You have to admire her tenacity: Joan Baez gave her heart and soul to peace activism during the Vietnam War, and even when the U.S. government is dumb enough to get us involved in yet another quagmire, she is still dedicated to spreading peace through song. Joan said

[Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Paul
Actually Greg, that's a complete lie. There aren't any pro-war libertarians. Not one. Anyone who supports the war in Iraq is excluded from being a libertarian. Being a military non-interventionist is not ignoring the rest of the world and only a fool would claim such. We spread our beliefs by

[Libertarian] Re: FFF Commentary -- Cindy Sheehan Was Right by Sheldon Richman (8/19/2005)

2005-08-22 Thread Paul
The overwhelming majority of veterans like myself are against the war in Iraq and the overwhelming majority of parents who have lost children in the blatantly unconstitutional and wholly unprovoked war in Iraq are against the war too. Only Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, etc. are stupid enough to

RE: SPAM-LOW: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intervention means first taking money from me and everyone else. An unnecessary war is merely a government program writ large. It is no more libertarian that Social Security, Medicare, No Child Left Behind, welfare, government cheese, etc. It costs the many and benefits the few. -Original

RE: SPAM-LOW: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Libertarian Republican? Isn't that an oxymoron? I got a call from them a while back and I started asking too many questions so they hung up on me. They don't really want critical thinkers. -Original Message- From: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric

SPAM-LOW: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Not if we give you the option of a check-off box on your tax return to opt out of supporting the Military and Defenses of the United States? --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intervention means first taking money from me and everyone else. An

[Libertarian] Re: meetings

2005-08-22 Thread Terry L Parker
Bring your wifi capable computer; we have electricity available :) -TLP --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to be in Austin this weekend with my friend Rick Ariazi, a visiting libertarian Republican from Michigan. Perhaps we'll

SPAM-LOW: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
No more of an oxymoron than Libertarian Libertarian Party member. Which essentially means, I think I'm a member of a political party, but I support losing elections, in fact, losing as many as we possibly can. Despite the fact that the definition of political party in the United States is TO

[Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Knock, knock. Paul, anyone in there? Let me umm, take you back to 1969. Virtually the entire libertarian movement that existed in that year was headed up by some California guy with a scrawny beard, and a tangent for surfing and smoking a little weed. The guy headed the Libertarian Caucus

SPAM-LOW: [Libertarian] Re: FFF Commentary -- Cindy Sheehan Was Right by Sheldon Richman (8/19/2005)

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
So, I guess what you are saying is that the rest of us Americans will all become Muslim lovers and worship Allah 5 times a day? And when that Muslim guy comes over with the big long-knife to put it into our chest after slashing our throats ala Theo Van Gogh we are all going to scream, Praise

[Libertarian] Re: FFF Commentary -- Cindy Sheehan Was Right by Sheldon Richman (8/19/2005)

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Hey Paul, got any statistics to back you up on that claim? Just curious?? --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The overwhelming majority of veterans like myself are against the war in Iraq and the overwhelming majority of parents who have lost children in the

[Libertarian] Re: meetings

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
[Moderator: 8th St Congress Ave -TLP ] This is on 6th Street right? --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Terry L Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bring your wifi capable computer; we have electricity available :) -TLP --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Eric Dondero Rittberg

[Libertarian] A bit off-topic, libertarians to visit Austin area this weekend

2005-08-22 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
It's 90% certain at this point that Rick Ariazi and I will be visiting the Austin area this weekend. Both of us will be doing book signings for our respective books; Eric Dondero - Vacation Spanish and Rick Ariazi for Bedtime Stories for Adults; Holiday Stories from around the World. We will

[Libertarian] FreePlayback: hear JOAN BAEZ Sing More at Crawford Protest

2005-08-22 Thread Terry L Parker
Will sing for peace! You have to admire her tenacity: Joan Baez gave her heart and soul to peace activism during the Vietnam War, and even when the U.S. government is dumb enough to get us involved in yet another quagmire, she is still dedicated to spreading peace through song. Joan said

[Libertarian] Fwd: Armstrong Bikes With President Over Sheehan Grave

2005-08-22 Thread Rocky
So sad. Has time for Armstrong but none for Nancy Sheehan. They had time to Celebrate the 30th day anniversary of her vigil. I sure hope that nancy holds out. BTW If you havent watched best democracy money can buy by Greg Plast it is very good. I highly recomend it. Goes into detail about

[Libertarian] 'Mixed Bag' General News Updates

2005-08-22 Thread Larry Lawson
on it. The Watchman http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050822/NEWS0202/508220353/0/SPORTS0602 $500,000 disaster drill lacks volunteers Only 100 have signed up, and emergency officials need 2,500 Metro officials are spending $500,000 on a massive emergency

Re: [Libertarian] Fwd: [infowarsnews] Danger Of Staged Terror Attack at Red Alert Level

2005-08-22 Thread Deus Ex Machina
Rocky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danger Of Staged Terror Attack at Red Alert Level Will Sheehan force establishment's hand or can they fend her off? Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | August 21 2005 Recent events and news developments paint a clear picture of an establishment

[Libertarian] War and Peace Texas Style this past Weekend

2005-08-22 Thread Terry L Parker
Countinous looping internet playback at phone modem speed (aprx 33kbps) on: AustinLibertyInterNetLoRez [TV] via Yellow Pages at www.PeerCast.org a wide array of sights, sounds and folks to catch your fancy - U.S. Drafts Plans to Keep 100,000 Troops in Iraq Until 2009 - Anti-War

Re: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Greg Southworth
Then the question is are we fighting for our liberty or to preserve someone elses position or status. That is the final problem with conservatism. In the final analysis, it is about keeping the privileged few on their thrones. You seem to have a great deal of faith in government at the foreign

[Libertarian] Re: Fwd: [infowarsnews] Danger Of Staged Terror Attack at Red Alert Level

2005-08-22 Thread Jake Porter
--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Deus Ex Machina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rocky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are globalists? Answer: The people who control are government that want a one world government. The supporters of the u.n and other organizations that try for a one world

Re: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Marlon Machado
Eric Dondero Rittberg wrote: And the problem with the Peacenik approach is that the whole word thinks we are a bunch of woosies who are not willing to fight for our lives and our country. Actually, that's a misconception. The rest of the world thinks we're a bunch of blood-thirsty

[Libertarian] What Does the Administration019s Leaked Mea Culpa on Iraq Portend? by Robert Higgs

2005-08-22 Thread HRearden
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[Libertarian] The Good News on Talk Radio by Karen Kwiatkowski

2005-08-22 Thread HRearden
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[Libertarian] Hypocrites and Liars by Cindy Sheehan

2005-08-22 Thread HRearden
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[Libertarian] The Answer to Cindy Sheehan019s Question by Jacob G. Hornberger

2005-08-22 Thread HRearden
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[Libertarian] French Gov. Sells Highway

2005-08-22 Thread hrearden_hr
The French government sold a highway Monday. I find that interesting. There were 18 parties that bid on the highway. Some in the government criticized the sale of the highway however. The socialist party in France ( I don't know much about French politics but really aren't all political

Re: [Libertarian] French Gov. Sells Highway

2005-08-22 Thread Deus Ex Machina
hrearden_hr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ( I don't know much about French politics but really aren't all political parties in France socialists?) just about, except for far right ultra nationalists. Vic Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial

[Libertarian] Re: Wealth from the ground up.

2005-08-22 Thread hrearden_hr
Wealth can and does literally come from the ground up. The ground itself is wealth as well as what it can produce. Land and what it is used for is wealth. People have literarlly produced wealth from the ground up. People with nothing who aquired land have become wealthy literally from the

Re: [Libertarian] Re: Wealth from the ground up.

2005-08-22 Thread Deus Ex Machina
hrearden_hr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wealth can and does literally come from the ground up. The ground itself is wealth as well as what it can produce. Land and what it is used for is wealth. People have literarlly produced wealth from the ground up. People with nothing who aquired land

[Libertarian] LIGHTHOUSE: Iraq Constitution | U.S. in Iraq | U.S. Supreme Court (8/22/05)

2005-08-22 Thread Terry L Parker
: THE LIGHTHOUSE Enlightening Ideas for Public Policy... Vol. 7, Issue 34; August 22, 2005 - IN THIS WEEK'S ISSUE: 1. Iraq Constitution Unlikely to Secure an Open Society 2. U.S. Lower Expectations for Iraq but Is Likely to Stay, Higgs

Re: libertarian schizophrenia Re: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread James Landrith
The people peddling this b.s. about libertarianism being pacifism fail to comprehend the basics of the philosophy - the non-agression (or zero) aggression principle. Some folks (Republicrat sympathizers, big government conservative statists, LINOs, and neo-libertarian sellouts) desparately

Re: libertarian schizophrenia Re: [Libertarian] Re: from bush with love

2005-08-22 Thread Deus Ex Machina
this principle pretty much depends on both sides agreeing to it. where one side lies the other is at serious disadvantage. take for instance irans promise not to make nuclear weapons. honest aside from having from energy then everyone except saudi arabia they need nuclear power for civilian