[Libertarian] Crawford: Cindy Sheehan Comes to Austin TODAY!

2005-08-31 Thread Terry L Parker
. The survey found that 52 percent of the public says Bush should talk to Sheehan, who has repeatedly asked for a meeting with the president, while 46 percent said he should not. Fifty-three percent support what she is doing while 42 percent oppose her actions, according to the poll.

[Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Knock, knock. Pauly. Anyone in there??? There are three individuals from the 1960s who could be credited with launching the Modern libertarian movement: Ayn Rand Barry Goldwater Dana Rohrabacher Newsflash Paul: ALL THREE OF THEM ARE/WERE PRO-DEFENSE/STRIDENTLY ANTI-COMMUNIST AND YES

[Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, I am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to abolish the First Amendment. I intend to make very clear that I, unlike the 4000 delegates to the American Legion National Convention, do not support Bush's

RE: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread James Landrith
I dropped my membership years ago over their enthusiasm for statist flag desecration amendments. I recently received another come back to us letter. Fat chance of that now. __ James Landrith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
While I sympathize with your desire to disassociate yourself from error, stupidity or worse, I intend to retain my membership since I think I can criticize more effectively from within. I may even wear my Legion cap at an antiwar demonstration. The problem with good people leaving the American

[Libertarian] Re: [recount_2005] Iraq is chaos planned by Neo-cons

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
Cutting oil supplies is, next to supporting the Zionist state of Israel, the most plausible explanation I have heard for Bush's irrational, unconstitutional, unnecessary, terrorist-recruiting war on Iraq. Furthermore, the fact that the establishment media are suppressing the obvious realistic

Re: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Marlon Machado
The Police State is slowly taking over all institutions. Welcome to the last days of the Weimar Republic. M David Macko wrote: As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, I am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to abolish the First Amendment. I intend

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
Whether or not they tune in to MTV or like our culture is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks or any other attacks by Bin Laden or Al Queda. --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Paul, then I guess you're saying that Bin

[Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
Pro-Defense is not what you are. You are pro-offense. You are for using unprovoked force against those who have not attacked us. Also Ayn Rand and Barry Goldwater would be solidly against the war in Iraq and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. Nolan had more to do with the Libertarian

[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Okay, I read the article. I too, am a long-standing member of the American Legion. I didn't see anything in the article that indicated that the American Legion was calling for infringements on American's rights to freedom of speech. They urged fellow Americans, to protest in other ways,

[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
There's nothing in the article to indicate that the American Legion supports legislative moves to outlaw freedom of speech. They are just urging their fellow Americans to exercise caution in their protestations, and consider the fact that their actions might cause dire consequences for the

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Good question. No, actually they don't. To be quite specific, the High Status Males in Muslim societies have multiple wives. The Low Status Males have few if any wives (or girlfriends). This is precisely the cause of all the angst. The Low Status Males, simply cannot get laid at all. Nor

[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
You go ahead and wear your American Legion hat at an anti-War rally. I've got the weekend off and am strongly considering going on up to Crawford, about a 2 1/2 hour drive for me, and waving a Sign, Libertarians Support The War, The President Our Troops. Just gotta check the funds, and if

Re: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
That figures. Dave Macko - Original Message - From: Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment There's nothing in the article to indicate

Re: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
I would sue for slander except that you must prove damage which generally means someone must believe the slander. Dave Macko - Original Message - From: Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: [Libertarian]

[Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Ayn Rand would have been opposed to the War in Iraq, huh? Then why was it I saw her Henchman Leonard Peikopf on Bill O'Reilly a year ago calling for massive bombings across the Middle East to stop the Terrorism. Made even O'Reilly cringe. And Goldwater? You really think Goldwater's would

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Likewise, whether we support Israel, or have our troops stationed in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain or Kuwait is irrelevant too. It has nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks by Bin Laden or Al Queda. It's not our foreign policy Stupid, it's our culture. You think Theo van Gogh's views on foreign

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
How do you figure? I'm a Deist/Agnostic who despised Christianity. And I'm gung ho Pro-War. Leonard Peikopf of the Ayn Rand Institute is a flaming Atheist and he and the Randians are fanatically anti-Muslim and Pro-War. Christopher Hitchens is also an Atheist and he too is fanatically

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Deus Ex Machina
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether or not they tune in to MTV or like our culture is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks or any other attacks by Bin Laden or Al Queda. well it has everything to do with. have you actually done any research or is this just your guess? Vic

Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
Goldwater would not have favored attacking someone (Saddam Hussein) who had nothing to do with the September 11 attacks. He was rational. Ron Paul advocated using letters of marque and reprisal to capture Osama bin Laden. Of course, your buddy, Bush's policy worked so much better. By the way,

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
It is very important to distinguish between neoconned Christians, many of whom, including Pat Robertson, have become quite bloodthirsty, and Christians who choose to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ rather than George Bush. The neoconned Christians are being exploited, which may eventually

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Re: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread james
They are equating anti-war, First Amendment protected speech with providing comfort and aid to the enemy. This is an attempt to outlaw freedom of speech via serious false accusations that can land someone in jail. Quite frankly, you previously referred to Bush as an extreme libertarian in this

Re: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Marlon Machado
Quote from the article: ...the group's national commander called for an end to all 'public protests' and 'media events' against the war, even though they are protected by the Bill of Rights. Does it mean he's OK with public demonstrations in favor of the war? It looks like it. When they say

[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread uncoolrabbit
I will remain with the Legion myself, but having joined the Armed Forces to defend the Constitution and the People of our country, I can't say I agree totaly with the afore mentioned statements. Iraq is a complex issue, while I was against going to war with Iraq from the start, I am also

[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
No, all libertarians are not pussies, cowards, liars, or idiots. But you are all of the above and I'll happily tell you to your face. --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You go ahead and wear your American Legion hat at an anti-War rally. I've

[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
That would be tough. There are almost no sane people with enough intelligence to be capable of human speech, who would actually believe anything Eric has to say. --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would sue for slander except that you must prove damage

[Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
Leonard was her boyfriend, not her henchman and he was NOT her and doesn't speak for her. She would NOT have supported the war in Iraq and neither would Goldwater. That doesn't mean Goldwater would do nothing. He probably would have done something intelligent, reasonable, and in line with the

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
It is our foreign policy, and only an idiot would claim otherwise. Only a brainless, nationalistic, jingoistic, dickhead would claim the 9/11 attack had anything to do with something other than America's foreign policy. Not one person in Al Queda or any other group has attacked America because

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
True, my agreeing to something doesn't mean it's connected to reality. The fact that what I'm saying is completely truthful and associated directly to reality does mean it's connected to reality. There are absolutely NO actual libertarians who support the war in Iraq. Supporting the war in Iraq

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
It's a fact. I realize you're not too familiar with facts since you seem to base most of the garbage you spew from conspiracy theories, and anarchist stupidity. The FACT is we were attacked because millions of people in the middle-east have died as a result of our meddling in their affairs,

[Libertarian] Re: Overpopulation

2005-08-31 Thread libertyaction
I would like to have some documentation for your position. You quote a few boogiemen that have called for reduction in population as if their dreaded names alone can make the metastasizing of human population and ok thing. Lets hear your sources. Don't just tell me from where you got the

[Libertarian] Democracy, the Worst Form of Government Ever Tried by Bevin Chu

2005-08-31 Thread Victor Bozzo
Home | About | Columnists | Blog | Subscribe | Donate Democracy, the Worst Form of Government Ever Tried by Bevin Chu by Bevin Chu The best argument against

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread steven linnabary
- Original Message - From: Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] America will continue being a target as long as we have MTV, Rock Music, Sexy Blondes, Desperate Housewives, Loud Mouth Comedians and HBO. Read my lips Paul... IT HAS VERY FUCKING LITTLE TO DO WITH OUR FOREIGN

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Deus Ex Machina
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are absolutely NO actual libertarians who support the war in Iraq. Supporting the war in Iraq automatically disqualifies you. its a tautology. its in fact not related to reality. sorry. Vic Yahoo! Groups Sponsor