On 21/03/2021 10:46, Katarina Behrens wrote:
C'mon folks, this is not a controversial or complicated issue in any way
If it isn't controversial, why is it causing so much controversy?
Technical effort to make the change is minimal. Social or indeed human impact
of the change is net positive.
On 18/03/2021 17:35, Michael Meeks wrote:
I do agree it is possible to carry this far too far. However its easy
to see how things like the unthinking use of eg. 'blacklist' can be seen
as bad - that seems like a slam-dunk to me.
The problem is when it's assumed you're being racist when
On Sunday 21 of March 2021, Katarina Behrens wrote:
> 'Let's wait for some random gits to come to their senses and only then
> follow the suit' is a bad take
A bad take is being the person to insult others while arguing for not
offending people in a discussion about not offending people.
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C'mon folks, this is not a controversial or complicated issue in any way
Technical effort to make the change is minimal. Social or indeed human impact
of the change is net positive. That few folks who happen to have the largest
bullhorn believe otherwise doesn't change the fact
'Where is my
On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 21:04 +0100, Luboš Luňák wrote:
> Therefore, I propose that the decision to rename the master branch
> is postponed for as long as the git project does not take a
> definitive stance on it. That stance may take the form of e.g. the
> git project making a statement on it or
On 18/03/2021 21.04, Luboš Luňák wrote:
- We are not in any special position here, we are just one of the many
projects using git. Therefore there does not appear to be any need to act on
our own. Presumably the issue gets discussed also elsewhere, and discussing
it here adds little to no value
Am 18.03.21 um 15:55 schrieb Tor Lillqvist:
For what it's worth (i.e., not much), I am completely in favour of the renaming.
--tml
Me, too.
Antje
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TLDR:
- There does not appear to be a consensus on the usage of the default brach
name, at least as of now.
- I find the claim that all use of the word master is bad to be poorly argued.
- This mostly appears to be an ongoing internal problem of one country. As a
technical project we should
Michael Meeks-5 wrote
> ...
> Hopefully you would be able to come ?
No need to come since it's easier for me to write (no schedule constraints
for example) and the migration will be done anyway, no need to worry.
Moreover, even if there was a vote I suppose there'll be a large majority
Thorsten Behrens-6 wrote
> ...
> Well. I'm not sure it matters much what you or me read into that word.
>
> So is there any harm in making that change? Others are doing the work,
> why would we refuse a change that some feel strongly about?
>
> We're happily accepting changes that re-format
Hello,
in order to make the discussion somewhat more constructive, I have an
alternative proposal on how to resolve the problem.
Some pre-requisities:
- There are currently no technical gains to be made from the change. There are
some costs to doing the change, but they are not blocking.
Thorsten Behrens-6 wrote
> ...
> The reason is, that language evolves, and bad habits (or metaphors) of
> the past shouldn't be persisted, if we know they are offensive to
> others.
Slavery itself shouldn't persist (badfully in some regions it still exists)
but let's not confound the slavery
Get woke go broke...
No need to push some misguided agenda, and even less need to appeal to some
collective guilt, after all slavery wasn't an universal practice.
The only way to handle SJWs is to ignore them, after all if you give them
an inch they'll take a mile. Be glad the situation is still
On 18/03/2021 14:19, julien2412 wrote:
> About "master"
So - there are huge tracts that can be written about this from many
perspectives; Dominus Illuminatio Mea =)
The "thin end of the wedge" argument is an interesting one, clearly
there is lots of scope for confrontation,
Lubos Lunak-2 wrote
> On Wednesday 17 of March 2021, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> Hi *,
>>
>> as requested and announced in previous ESC-minutes and infra-call
>> minutes, master branch will be renamed for the LibreOffice core
>> repositories and the submodules used by LibreOffice (dictionaries,
Hey Julien,
julien2412 wrote:
> Thorsten Behrens-6 wrote
> > ...
> > The reason is, that language evolves, and bad habits (or metaphors) of
> > the past shouldn't be persisted, if we know they are offensive to
> > others.
>
> Slavery itself shouldn't persist (badfully in some regions it still
For what it's worth (i.e., not much), I am completely in favour of the renaming.
--tml
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Hi Lubos,
just a quick answer - I think topics like this are best discussed in a
call though.
Lubos Lunak wrote:
> I disagree with the plan. Git uses master, so we should stick with
> that.
>
Hmm. But someone else using outdated names shouldn't per se be a reason
for us? Also it appears things
On 17.03.2021 22:45, Lubos Lunak wrote:
I disagree with the plan.
+1
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Am 17. März 2021 20:45:23 MEZ schrieb Lubos Lunak :
>On Wednesday 17 of March 2021, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> as requested and announced in previous ESC-minutes and infra-call
>> minutes, master branch will be renamed for the LibreOffice core
>> repositories and the submodules used by
On Wednesday 17 of March 2021, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> as requested and announced in previous ESC-minutes and infra-call
> minutes, master branch will be renamed for the LibreOffice core
> repositories and the submodules used by LibreOffice (dictionaries,
> help, translations).
>
>
Nt L.O. related, but I think it is worth mentioning on this topic:
the Python language is doing this same month over the coming weeks
(i.e. renaming the default git branch to 'main') - the announcement was
made by the steering council last week.
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 07:46, Christian Lohmaier <
Hi *,
as requested and announced in previous ESC-minutes and infra-call
minutes, master branch will be renamed for the LibreOffice core
repositories and the submodules used by LibreOffice (dictionaries,
help, translations).
Current plan is to do the switchover on April 1st
If you have objections
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