Re: Website broken

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuyshanw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, can someone fix this?  This currently hangs the website update. mkdir -p out/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/ msgfmt --output=out/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/newweb.mo po/de.po

Re: wikipedia...

2009-06-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/6/4 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com: I have freshened the Spanish wikipedia LilyPond page a little bit. This is the most time-consuming task you can face. After a rest I could try translating it into English, sooner or later. I can help you with the translation, but I don't have a

Re: [frogs] Naming output files - status update please?

2009-06-05 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/6/4 Ian Hulin i...@hulin.org.uk: See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-02/msg00833.html and follow-ups for the previous discussion on the topic. As far as I can see, an implementation proposal is already available, just to commit. I know Marek Klein did a lot of work

Re: GUB on kainhofer: still cross/gcc

2009-06-05 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op donderdag 04-06-2009 om 10:46 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Anthony W. Youngman: I think that's a pretty usual setup (most people I know have a 32bit version of Linux installed on their laptop even though their CPU is actually a 64bit). Sometimes it makes sense to do what most people do,

Re: wikipedia...

2009-06-05 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 05-06-2009 om 11:31 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentin Villenave: 2009/6/4 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com: I have freshened the Spanish wikipedia LilyPond page a little bit. This is the most time-consuming task you can face. After a rest I could try translating it into

development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Graham Percival
There's a surprising amount of interest in contributing to LilyPond from Windows machines. (err, I mean, from people *with* Windows machines, not from the actual machines themselves) As I understand it, people with Windows can: - run GUB - get the sources with git - compile the docs without

Re: wikipedia...

2009-06-05 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 05-06-2009 om 12:08 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jan Nieuwenhuizen: Did the original spanish page look at good examples of other softwares? I don't read spanish, but it looks real different from, say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibelius_(software) For example, the Sibelius

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
- does anybody feel like making cygwin packages for the missing software? Well, for some time I used to be the cygwin maintainer of lilypond. Was quite nightmare. - does anybody have VMware (commercial version) and feel like making a small Linux installation which has all the required

Re: wikipedia...

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl: Op vrijdag 05-06-2009 om 12:08 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jan Nieuwenhuizen: Just some thoughts... I'll take this all into account, just give me some time. With your permission, I'll write it into Spanish page first, then will take it as

Re: wikipedia...

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/6/5 Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl: Op vrijdag 05-06-2009 om 12:08 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jan Nieuwenhuizen: Just some thoughts... I'll take this all into account, just give me some time. With your permission, I'll write it into Spanish page

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:26:41PM +0200, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: - does anybody have VMware (commercial version) and feel like making a small Linux installation which has all the required software? Potential contributors would be able to run this in the free VMware

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
VirtualBox is Open Source and runs on Linux hosts, so I would recommend this. Creating an OS that can be used is a matter of creating a disk image. One approach is to install ubuntu on the virtual machine, then install the additional tools, and share the resulting virtual disk. Bert Graham

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: VirtualBox is Open Source and runs on Linux hosts, so I would recommend this. Creating an OS that can be used is a matter of creating a disk image. One approach is to install ubuntu on the virtual machine, then install the additional tools, and share the

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: VirtualBox is Open Source and runs on Linux hosts, so I would recommend this. Creating an OS that can be used is a matter of creating a disk image. One approach is to install ubuntu on the virtual machine, then install the additional

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: VirtualBox is Open Source and runs on Linux hosts, so I would recommend this. Creating an OS that can be used is a matter of creating a disk image. One approach is to install ubuntu on the virtual machine, then install the additional

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
BTW, having said all of this, I actually have an .iso of my own remix of xubuntu that has all of the Lilypond build tools installed already. It's kind of big, about 1.1GB, so it either has to go on a DVD or it can be used as an .iso to install it in a virtual machine. I used a tool called

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:44:27AM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Jonathan Kulp wrote: Can't all of the tools be installed from inside the virtual machine? Yes, but since window users will already be faced with an unfamiliar environment, we might as well set up the build system for them. **IF**

Re: LSR update policies, and WTM is input/new/revised/ ?

2009-06-05 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/6/5 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 07:46:10PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I read the diff for CG when it came in this morning and the LSR stuff looks good to me. If you want, we could also include the script I wrote for checking all the snippets at once.

Re: LSR update policies, and WTM is input/new/revised/ ?

2009-06-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:17:01PM +0100, Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/6/5 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Yeah, but there are differences -- input/new/revised/rest-styles.ly doesn't contain tiny rests for the mensural and neomensural.  The version in LSR contains those rests in the

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:44:27AM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Jonathan Kulp wrote: Can't all of the tools be installed from inside the virtual machine? Yes, but since window users will already be faced with an unfamiliar environment, we might as well set up the build

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
As we are looking for windows-experienced developers I really think that the ubuntu way would be better, it is easier for us windowsers. If you guys think it would be useful then I'll have a go at it. I think I can remaster xubuntu with all the Lilypond build tools and get it under 700MB to

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Jonathan Kulp wrote: under 700MB to fit on a CD. I would go with Debian but the tool remastersys is specifically made for doing Ubuntu remixes and I'm not sure it would work with straight Debian. I was wrong about this. It's for Debian or Ubuntu. I can do Debian if you think it's

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Please try 2.13.1-2 to see if this helps. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Paul Scottpsl...@ultrasw.com wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I was testing the GUB binary at lilypond.org. I have just confirmed the

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com: Please try 2.13.1-2 to see if this helps. That newer version does not show the problem I mentioned. It compiles correctly a minimal document and produces the PDF. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.comwrote: 2009/6/5 Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com: Please try 2.13.1-2 to see if this helps. That newer version does not show the problem I mentioned. It compiles correctly a minimal document and produces the PDF. When I

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Jonathan Kulp wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.comwrote: 2009/6/5 Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com: Please try 2.13.1-2 to see if this helps. That newer version does not show the problem I mentioned. It compiles correctly a minimal document and

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com: Forgot to mention that I get the same error messages when I run test.ly with the latest stable binary on XP. I've tested on XP, too, and I get no errors or warnings. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/6/5 Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com: Forgot to mention that I get the same error messages when I run test.ly with the latest stable binary on XP. I've tested on XP, too, and I get no errors or warnings. Weird. Something must be messed up on my virtualbox.

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Paul Scott
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Please try 2.13.1-2 to see if this helps. No error message and the PDF is fine now. Thanks, Paul With 2.13.1 on Debian sid I get: Converting to `./asthedeertenor.pdf'... `gs -q -dSAFER -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=612.00 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=792.00

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Can you check 2.13.1-2 for this? thanks, On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:53 PM, -Eluzeelu...@gmail.com wrote: don't know if it is helpful, but in another score i get the same message with a different number (line?) (lilypond.exe:560): GLib-WARNING **: Passing a non-NULL package to

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
I've done a fresh Ubuntu install on my 2nd partition so I can create this lily-dev remix. Lilypond built successfully but the user documentation is failing very early in the process. The CG built correctly, but none of the stuff in user/ is building. Can anyone see what the problem is from this

mergin web/ with master/

2009-06-05 Thread Graham Percival
Do we need a separate branch (or even repository) for web/ stuff? I propose that we merge this with the main branch. PRO: + one less branch/repo to track + easier to fix typos in the web pages + we can direct everybody to look at the CG (no more README in the newweb/ branch) + allows better

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:11:35PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Reading music-glossary.tely... Dissecting... lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.13.1 Traceback (most recent call last): File ../../scripts/lilypond-book.py, line 2108, in module main () File

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com: Francisco Vila wrote: I've tested on XP, too, and I get no errors or warnings. Weird. Something must be messed up on my virtualbox. Jon I also have Windows inside VirtualBox. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org

Re: mergin web/ with master/

2009-06-05 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/6/5 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: Do we need a separate branch (or even repository) for web/ stuff? I propose that we merge this with the main branch. That's a bit surprising because IIRC it has been told to separate it completely into another place. CON: - adds 30 megs to

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread -Eluze
Han-Wen Nienhuys-5 wrote: Can you check 2.13.1-2 for this? seems ok now! i get an additional line (compared to former releases) in the log, which i don't know if it is really useful (or maybe i don't understand fully what it means): GNU LilyPond 2.13.1 »__temp__.ly« wird verarbeitet

Hungarian news item on english webpage

2009-06-05 Thread Mark Polesky
Is the Hungarian-language news item on the lilypond.org hopmepage supposed to be there? It seems a little odd. Better if it were translated to English, I think. - Mark A LilyPond weboldala magyaru - May 22, 2009 Elkészült a lilypond.org nagy részének magyar fordítása a LilyPond honosítási

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.cawrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:11:35PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Reading music-glossary.tely... Dissecting... lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.13.1 Traceback (most recent call last): File

Re: GUB on kainhofer: still cross/gcc

2009-06-05 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 1244195981.25811.178.ca...@heerbeest, Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl writes Op donderdag 04-06-2009 om 10:46 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Anthony W. Youngman: I think that's a pretty usual setup (most people I know have a 32bit version of Linux installed on their laptop

Re: Hungarian news item on english webpage

2009-06-05 Thread John Mandereau
Mark Polesky a écrit : Is the Hungarian-language news item on the lilypond.org hopmepage supposed to be there? It seems a little odd. Better if it were translated to English, I think. It is lilypond.org news tradition to announce translation events in the translated language. Maybe the

Re: development on windows

2009-06-05 Thread John Mandereau
Jonathan Kulp a écrit : What I don't understand is how the permissions got jacked up in the first place. I didn't do anything different this time than I usually do. I've never had the permissions problem before. Maybe I put a sudo in there inadvertently but I don't recall doing any sudos

Re: lilypond 2.13.1 up

2009-06-05 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:12:59AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Please try 2.13.1-2 to see if this helps. Works great here. Thanks, Han-Wen. -Patrick ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: mergin web/ with master/

2009-06-05 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Do we need a separate branch (or even repository) for web/ stuff? I propose that we merge this with the main branch. PRO: + one less branch/repo to track + easier to fix typos in the web pages + we can direct